I can't recommend TypeFrag.com (RESOLVED)

BlitzPuppet

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Update:

As seen below the owner of Typefrag contacted me and wanted to make things right. He did come through on his word and has made things right by my mind.

I do intend to go back to Typefrag once my subscription is up at the place my TS3 server is currently at.

Thanks again David! I appreciate all your help!



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Ugh, I'll keep this as short as possible.

Back when 2004/2005 a buddy of paid for a ventrilo server that we would all use in the games that we played, and would invite everyone from our guild/clan on in order to talk and play.

In 2006 he could no longer afford to pay, so I took over the server in September. During this time I lived in an apartment with crappy internet that had a quota, so I was advised by my ISP to use port 3783 for the VOIP so that it wouldn't count towards my quota....I asked Typefrag to do that for the server and they happily obliged.

Fast forward to 2009/10 and the host name changed (fear.typefrag to boron.typefrag) but they were just aliases and either worked as they both pointed to the same address. No impact on me what so ever.

I liked typefrag so much that I started hosting a TeamSpeak server through them in late 2012 and spent most of my time over there while friends/friends of friends/etc etc etc would continue to use my Ventrilo server.

Fast forward to January 2014, almost 8 years into business with Typefrag, I get a text from a buddy of mine asking why I cancelled Ventrilo. I asked them what they were talking about and saw that when I tried to log in, the client didn't connect. I logged into my control panel in typefrag and noticed that a lot had changed....first the host name had changed from boron/fear to Nitrogen.typefrag.com with a port of 6000. I did a quick ping and found out that it was a completely different IP than what my server had been. Basically they didn't do any type of forwarding, used a different port, AND didn't notify me of any changes.

I opened up multiple chat sessions/emails/tickets over the course of the next few months. I was told they apologize for doing this, but the server I had been using was no longer in their range of hosts, as was the port. I told them "Fine, but why wasn't I notified?" They couldn't give me an answer and just apologized saying they understand why I'm upset, and they'd be willing to give me a credit since I wasn't given any type of notification/warning of the server transfer. I accepted the idea of a credit, and admitted that I would give them one more chance since I really didn't like the thought of dropping their service. Everything else with them had been perfect.

I cancelled the Ventrilo server since it was pretty much worthless, and sent the Teamspeak IP info to everyone I had contact information of...which was not many. I had to keep poking TypeFrag support for an update on when I'd be getting any credit to my account. I was reminded by the Ventrilo Host thread that I still hadn't received any update on the credit, so I thought I'd open up a ticket/chat to see what they have to say.

They told me they'd let me know in 24 hours, and that they apologize for not getting back in touch with me over the course of 4.5 months.

Here is their reply:

"Unfortunately, we would not be able to provide you with a credit due to the hostname and port number of your server changing. I am very sorry again for the inconveniences that this situation has caused you previously, however credits are only able to be applied to customers who have experienced an abnormal amount of downtime/server unavailability."

So that's it, time to cancel my server. While their uptime/downtime was sufficient, their customer service/support is very lacking. They did nothing to help me out in my situation and told me point blank that there was nothing I could do to get the host back that I had for the past 8 years.

TLDR:
Host Ventrilo through typefrag for 8 YEARS.
They change the IP/Port without telling me, people think I cancelled ventrilo.
Confront Typefrag, they apologize for not notifying, but say that they no longer offer that address and cannot help me. They offer a refund
5 months later I ask for a status, they say they can't give me a refund/credit because my server was never down. Just changed
 
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Firsttime

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That sucks. I switched to them after NationVoice went awol. I enjoy the interface and product, I haven't had to use their customer service yet though. Hopefully never, if it's that bad.
 

BlitzPuppet

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Yeah, it really sucks. First I was promised a credit as they agreed that this was unacceptable and since I had been a customer for so long. Then they kept saying the request never went through and they'd get back to me (which they never did). Then FINALLY today they finally admitted to denying the request because my server was never down, they just changed the IP and Port without telling me.

Now I can see why they get DDoS attacks so much, wonder how many other people that their customer service has failed?
 

RaulF

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If you have all the conversation saved in chat message, and are using the CC to pay for the service you might try a charge back via CC.

Good luck.
 

BlitzPuppet

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If you have all the conversation saved in chat message, and are using the CC to pay for the service you might try a charge back via CC.

Good luck.

I actually cancelled the ventrilo a couple of weeks before the renewal took place, and since I pay annually I only honestly lost 1-2 months of service.

As far as the Teamspeak server goes, I don't think I'll do a chargeback for that. The TS server worked fine, but the promised "We're Sorry" credit to my account is not going to be applied...so I cancelled it. I'm getting a prorated refund based on the amount of months left on that yearly billing cycle.

I've already moved over to a new host like I said I would. It just sickens me that Typefrag doesn't seem to give a shit on keeping it's loyal customer base when they are the ones that messed up. I was VERY fair and patient and now I'm voting with my wallet and advising others to stay away....Hell this thread is #2 on google results for the phrase "Typefrag.com sucks".
 

Cuular

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So you couldn't setup a freedns alias for the oldname to point to the new one? And make it transparent to the people still left using it? Just send out the port change to the friends you know still using it, so they can pass that on to those they know are using it.
 

BlitzPuppet

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So you couldn't setup a freedns alias for the oldname to point to the new one? And make it transparent to the people still left using it? Just send out the port change to the friends you know still using it, so they can pass that on to those they know are using it.

That wouldn't work.

Regardless though, the ventrilo server has been shut down since January and is long gone. The hostname that I used is still active/responding to pings so I have no idea if I was the only one affected or if other long time customers like me were swapped as well.

They went from getting $150+ a year to $0 from me. Their loss.
 

TypeFrag

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My name is David Grampa and I am the founder of TypeFrag.com. Your post was brought to my attention by the director of our customer support team who periodically reviews where our website appears in Google search results.

First off, let me personally apologize for the poor customer support experience. This is unacceptable. We pride ourselves in offering the best possible service and strive to deliver the best possible customer support experience to each and every customer. Whether you were a customer for 10 years or 10 minutes, you deserved the very best from us and we did not deliver. That personally saddens me.

I want to figure out what happened and make things right. However, I am having trouble locating your account based on the information in your posting. Would you please private message or email me through AnandTech's forums? I know that you have since moved on to another provider but I pledge to honor whatever credit was requested (plus interest).
 

BlitzPuppet

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My name is David Grampa and I am the founder of TypeFrag.com. Your post was brought to my attention by the director of our customer support team who periodically reviews where our website appears in Google search results.

First off, let me personally apologize for the poor customer support experience. This is unacceptable. We pride ourselves in offering the best possible service and strive to deliver the best possible customer support experience to each and every customer. Whether you were a customer for 10 years or 10 minutes, you deserved the very best from us and we did not deliver. That personally saddens me.

I want to figure out what happened and make things right. However, I am having trouble locating your account based on the information in your posting. Would you please private message or email me through AnandTech's forums? I know that you have since moved on to another provider but I pledge to honor whatever credit was requested (plus interest).

Thank you for contacting me regarding this situation!

I genuinely was saddened that I had to find another provider because typefrag was my/our home for so long and it felt so abrupt. I genuinely was looking for any reason to stay.

I have PM'd you the information regarding my account. If you have any other questions please do not hesitate to contact me.
 

TypeFrag

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I have PM'd you the information regarding my account. If you have any other questions please do not hesitate to contact me.

I was able to locate your account based on the information you provided in the PM. I emailed you directly. Again, I am sorry this happened and hope that we can make things right.