I cant boot into Safe mode, WXP home

dxkj

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Ok my computer won't boot into windows... If I choose start normally or /last known good config, it sits endlessly at the WXP home splash screen and the scroll bar keeps running indefnintely.


If I choose safe mode it either instantly restarts at a certain point, or freezes at the same point (last file loaded is mup.sys)

If I try running WXP setup the system automatically reboots before I get to any recovery or repair options.

Im running an AMD Epox motherboard, AMD 2100+, and a SATA HDD

I have switched out the ram with 3 other sticks and that is not the issue..... This is making me think motherboard, but I thought I would get opinions before i buy another mobo. I have defaulted the bios, and unplugged everything but the ram, cpu, keyboard, HDD.



going crazy here because i can usually figure this stuff out. I have read a few posts on google, but none of them fit my description
 

nweaver

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last time I saw this error was installing MCE 2k5 off bad media. Try doing a repair from your XP CD.
 

dxkj

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Originally posted by: nweaver
last time I saw this error was installing MCE 2k5 off bad media. Try doing a repair from your XP CD.




If I try running WXP setup the system automatically reboots before I get to any recovery or repair options.


 

TGS

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Make sure all your BIOS settings are within spec.

My board defaults to a 204MHz on ram speed. My RAM is SUPER sensitve about frequency. Anything over 200MHz sends stability into the crapper.

If you are booting off the CD and getting hardlocks or reboots, 10-1 hardware setting problem or straight hardware problem.
 

dxkj

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Originally posted by: TGS
Make sure all your BIOS settings are within spec.

My board defaults to a 204MHz on ram speed. My RAM is SUPER sensitve about frequency. Anything over 200MHz sends stability into the crapper.

If you are booting off the CD and getting hardlocks or reboots, 10-1 hardware setting problem or straight hardware problem.



Yeah I am betting that it is the motherboard.... it happens at the SAME exact point everytime so it is more than just a stability issue... It seems when a set driver is loaded/or feature is attempted to be used, it crashes... both in setup and in safe mode startup
 

corkyg

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This is one of the most talked about problems over the past year or two. The techical consensus seems to be that it is caused by a BIOS problem - a corrupted ESCD. This can be caused by a virus also. The cure seems to be to reflash the BIOS.
 
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I get a similar problem. As soon as it gets to Safe Mode's login screen, the PC restarts.

XP repairs don't help. I installed XP on my other PC recently, and the SAME problem! Maybe it's some BIOS conflict with SP2? Although I didn't try the Safe Mode with out SP2...
 

dxkj

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Originally posted by: corkyg
This is one of the most talked about problems over the past year or two. The techical consensus seems to be that it is caused by a BIOS problem - a corrupted ESCD. This can be caused by a virus also. The cure seems to be to reflash the BIOS.

I am always wary about flashing the bios ;(..


Now to download the file put it on a floppy disk, and try to flash my bios :(

 

dxkj

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Originally posted by: corkyg
This is one of the most talked about problems over the past year or two. The techical consensus seems to be that it is caused by a BIOS problem - a corrupted ESCD. This can be caused by a virus also. The cure seems to be to reflash the BIOS.

I reflashed with the newest bios, no go :(
 

dxkj

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Ok so I replaced my motherboard, same thing
replaced HDD once with ide, once with SATA, same thing
replaced video card
replaced ram
replaced EVERYTHING.... except my cpu



swapped my cpu from my wifes computer, BAM boots right up....

I put my cpu in hers.... works fine...


WTF is that about






Lets call the bad CPU, CPU A.



If you put A in mobo B or C it will give this same error and not boot up, if you put it in a different motherboard, call it A, it works fine... Weird shte, and Ive checked different bios settings too :-/
 

corkyg

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Leave it that way. Sometimes you just have to go with the flow.
 

Hoot

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I also ran into a problem that very closely resembled the one you described. My 'fix' was to remove my hard drive from the 'broken' computer and place it in a working computer (both running XP) as 'D' drive. Now I was able to run through my stable of utilities to try and remedy whatever the problem was. I ran Norton WinDoctor, Spyware Doctor, Norton Anti-virus, Scandisk, deleted all .tmp files, etc., etc..
Then I held my breath and reinstalled the 'fixed' drive back as 'C' drive in the computer it originally came from...and held my breath!
It worked! I could now boot into Windows. Once I accomplished that I ran a System Restore and things have been fine since.
Hope this helps!

Hoot
 

Doh!

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When you said "I've changed everything", did it include the power supply and HDD cables? I've seen a similar problem w/ a bad power supply and also a bad hdd cable.
 

JesseKnows

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You must have some problem, as safe mode shows.

But - did you try to press Alt-Tab when sitting in the splash screen? I had some error during the boot process, and the dialog was hidden by the splash screen. Change process with Alt-Tab, and I saw the dialog, retired it, and had some idea what the problem was (not that I recall now:))
 

Kaifu

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I came here looking for just this very issue. My bootup would hang on the same file. Was it just coincidence that it stopped hanging when I ejected my motherboard driver CD?
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