I call bvllsh!t on this lady

[glen]

No way this is real.
This is too good for her gallery:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2004/05/29/state1749EDT0067.DTL&type=printable

 

[MrCodeDude]

Meh. So she had a gallery of paintings where all these liberal hippy artists could display their artwork of released photographs?

She had it coming.

 

[PCTweaker5]

Probably Iraqis or terrorists punched her. No American would do that for any reason!

 

[cucumber]

Now, I don't condone violence like this, but the situation does piss me off.

So people are angry about the prisoner abuse. Ok. That's understandable, but where the hell is all the outrage about Berg getting his head cut off?!?!! WTF!!?? If I could paint, I'd put paintings of that in galleries and rage against true torture, true prisoner abuse. But I can't paint, and I'm sad to see that artists don't seem to care.

Fvck! Strip me naked, put me on human pyramids and take pictures all day long. I'll do it with a smile. Just don't cut off my fvcking head. These guys are alive and well. And they are free to bitch about the sh_t they went through. Berg is dead. I would rather be angry than dead. Fvck these painters, and fvck the bitch promoting them. (don't hit her though.....)

 

[flxnimprtmscl]

Eh, oh well. Both sides involved in this are idiots. They deserve each other.

 

[sonambulo]

ever heard of guernica? am i missing something here?

war begets tragedy. tragedy begets pain. pain begets art. (painfully trite, i know i know) it's just a painting. it's just one person's opinion. are you open to this kind of thing being portrayed? why or why not?

 

[cucumber]

Originally posted by: sonambulo
ever heard of guernica? am i missing something here?

war begets tragedy. tragedy begets pain. pain begets art. (painfully trite, i know i know) it's just a painting. it's just one person's opinion. are you open to this kind of thing being portrayed? why or why not?

I agree completely with you and I do support people's right to express themselvs.

I also have the right to be angry and wonder why they're outraged by a relatively minor evil while ignoring acts far more vile and disgusting.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: cucumber
Now, I don't condone violence like this, but the situation does piss me off.

So people are angry about the prisoner abuse. Ok. That's understandable, but where the hell is all the outrage about Berg getting his head cut off?!?!! WTF!!?? If I could paint, I'd put paintings of that in galleries and rage against true torture, true prisoner abuse. But I can't paint, and I'm sad to see that artists don't seem to care.

Fvck! Strip me naked, put me on human pyramids and take pictures all day long. I'll do it with a smile. Just don't cut off my fvcking head. These guys are alive and well. And they are free to bitch about the sh_t they went through. Berg is dead. I would rather be angry than dead. Fvck these painters, and fvck the bitch promoting them. (don't hit her though.....)

It doesen't matter.

What they did to Berg was atrocious, but it doesen't negate what we did to them in their own prison.

 

[cucumber]

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: cucumber
Now, I don't condone violence like this, but the situation does piss me off.

So people are angry about the prisoner abuse. Ok. That's understandable, but where the hell is all the outrage about Berg getting his head cut off?!?!! WTF!!?? If I could paint, I'd put paintings of that in galleries and rage against true torture, true prisoner abuse. But I can't paint, and I'm sad to see that artists don't seem to care.

Fvck! Strip me naked, put me on human pyramids and take pictures all day long. I'll do it with a smile. Just don't cut off my fvcking head. These guys are alive and well. And they are free to bitch about the sh_t they went through. Berg is dead. I would rather be angry than dead. Fvck these painters, and fvck the bitch promoting them. (don't hit her though.....)

It doesen't matter.

What they did to Berg was atrocious, but it doesen't negate what we did to them in their own prison.

Both things anger me but the killing angers me more than the abuse.

I'm not dismissing the prison abuse, nor am I saying the beheading makes it any less horrible.

I'm just venting my anger at the fact that people seem to be turning a blind eye to the beheading.

 

[isekii]

she asked for it when she displayed something on a touchy subject.

if you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen!

 

[sonambulo]

she didn't draw it; she displayed the painting at her gallery.

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: isekii
she asked for it when she drew something on a touchy subject.

if you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen!

... How in the world can you say that?

I suppose you would say the same thing about rape victims?

 

[isekii]

Originally posted by: Orsorum

Originally posted by: isekii
she asked for it when she drew something on a touchy subject.

if you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen!

... How in the world can you say that?

I suppose you would say the same thing about rape victims?

I'm not saying she deserved it. But she should have known that it would bother a person or a group of people that would do something.

Have you see one of the Jackass episodes where Chris Pontius goes out in public with a sign that says follow the devil or something ? Some random guy off the street punched him in the head.
He knew it would stir up something or someone, and he got knocked in the head for it.

If she thought nothing would happen with the picture she displayed, she's got bigger surprises come her way later down the road.

 

[sonambulo]

Originally posted by: isekii
I'm not saying she deserved it. But she should have known that it would bother a person or a group of people that would do something.

so are you saying that everyone should just march in line with the status quo?

 

[isekii]

Originally posted by: sonambulo

Originally posted by: isekii
I'm not saying she deserved it. But she should have known that it would bother a person or a group of people that would do something.

so are you saying that everyone should just march in line with the status quo?

All i'm saying is that with the amount of nuts out there, you gotta expect the unexpected.
Personally I'm not surprised someone attacked her.
You take a side on a touchy subject and let the public know about it, you're bound to take some heat on it. In her case, a knuckle to the noggin.

 

[silverpig]

Originally posted by: cucumber

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: cucumber
Now, I don't condone violence like this, but the situation does piss me off.

So people are angry about the prisoner abuse. Ok. That's understandable, but where the hell is all the outrage about Berg getting his head cut off?!?!! WTF!!?? If I could paint, I'd put paintings of that in galleries and rage against true torture, true prisoner abuse. But I can't paint, and I'm sad to see that artists don't seem to care.

Fvck! Strip me naked, put me on human pyramids and take pictures all day long. I'll do it with a smile. Just don't cut off my fvcking head. These guys are alive and well. And they are free to bitch about the sh_t they went through. Berg is dead. I would rather be angry than dead. Fvck these painters, and fvck the bitch promoting them. (don't hit her though.....)

It doesen't matter.

What they did to Berg was atrocious, but it doesen't negate what we did to them in their own prison.

Both things anger me but the killing angers me more than the abuse.

I'm not dismissing the prison abuse, nor am I saying the beheading makes it any less horrible.

I'm just venting my anger at the fact that people seem to be turning a blind eye to the beheading.

Search any forum for "berg" and again for "abu gharib[sp?]" and see how many threads you get on each. No one is turning a blind eye.

What pisses me off is that people seem to value his single death more than the x-thousand of US soldier death so far too...

 

[Antisocial Virge]

Originally posted by: cucumber

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: cucumber
Now, I don't condone violence like this, but the situation does piss me off.

So people are angry about the prisoner abuse. Ok. That's understandable, but where the hell is all the outrage about Berg getting his head cut off?!?!! WTF!!?? If I could paint, I'd put paintings of that in galleries and rage against true torture, true prisoner abuse. But I can't paint, and I'm sad to see that artists don't seem to care.

Fvck! Strip me naked, put me on human pyramids and take pictures all day long. I'll do it with a smile. Just don't cut off my fvcking head. These guys are alive and well. And they are free to bitch about the sh_t they went through. Berg is dead. I would rather be angry than dead. Fvck these painters, and fvck the bitch promoting them. (don't hit her though.....)

It doesen't matter.

What they did to Berg was atrocious, but it doesen't negate what we did to them in their own prison.

Both things anger me but the killing angers me more than the abuse.

I'm not dismissing the prison abuse, nor am I saying the beheading makes it any less horrible.

I'm just venting my anger at the fact that people seem to be turning a blind eye to the beheading.

You guys do realize they are investigating several murders in that prision at the hands of US soldiers right? Is Bergs murder worse because he was videotaped or because he is not from Iraq?

 

[glen]

I don't think for a minuet she was attacked.
I think she made it up for the publicity for the Gallery.

 

[SmoochyTX]

Painted by Berkeley artist Guy Colwell, "Abuse," the painting at the center of the controversy, depicts three U.S. soldiers leering at a group of naked men in hoods with wires connected to their bodies. The one in the foreground has a blood-spattered American flag patch on his uniform. In the background, a soldier in sunglasses guards a blindfolded woman.

The painting was part of a larger show of Colwell's work that mostly featured pastel-colored abstracts.

Two days after the painting went up in a front window, someone threw eggs and dumped trash on the doorstep. Haigh said she didn't think to connect it to the black-and-white interpretation of the events at Baghdad's notorious prison until people started leaving nasty messages and threats on her business answering machine.


"I'm not here to make a stand. I never set out to be a crusader or a political activist."
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Come on now. She really REALLY didn't connect it to the events at the prison in Baghdad?????

Painting goes up. Business gets egged. Nasty messages left on answering machine.

Perhaps it all started because of the new yellow/green abstract painting put on display. :roll:

She did this all for the publicity. Plain and simple.

BTW, I don't condone her being attacked in any way.

 

[cucumber]

Originally posted by: Antisocial-Virge

Originally posted by: cucumber

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: cucumber
Now, I don't condone violence like this, but the situation does piss me off.

So people are angry about the prisoner abuse. Ok. That's understandable, but where the hell is all the outrage about Berg getting his head cut off?!?!! WTF!!?? If I could paint, I'd put paintings of that in galleries and rage against true torture, true prisoner abuse. But I can't paint, and I'm sad to see that artists don't seem to care.

Fvck! Strip me naked, put me on human pyramids and take pictures all day long. I'll do it with a smile. Just don't cut off my fvcking head. These guys are alive and well. And they are free to bitch about the sh_t they went through. Berg is dead. I would rather be angry than dead. Fvck these painters, and fvck the bitch promoting them. (don't hit her though.....)

It doesen't matter.

What they did to Berg was atrocious, but it doesen't negate what we did to them in their own prison.

Both things anger me but the killing angers me more than the abuse.

I'm not dismissing the prison abuse, nor am I saying the beheading makes it any less horrible.

I'm just venting my anger at the fact that people seem to be turning a blind eye to the beheading.

You guys do realize they are investigating several murders in that prision at the hands of US soldiers right? Is Bergs murder worse because he was videotaped or because he is not from Iraq?

How did you get anything racist or retarded like "worse because he was videotaped" from what's being said in these posts?


Pull your head out of your ass. Moron.