I bought a new 2007 Mustang

[tealk]

Only 1 way to buy a Mustang...and that is the V8 level or better. It's just pointless otherwise....I mean a Mustang stands for power...they should have never came out with that V6....just a sissy way of saying you drive a mustang...But in reality....IMO a Mustang is for one reason...POWER......

 

[bigben2wardpitt]

unless u are bringing in tons of cash money, why would you ever buy an american car?

silly, silly, silly if you ask me.

I would of bought some kind of german or japanese car with that $$.

 

[randomlinh]

Originally posted by: OS

Originally posted by: randomlinh

Originally posted by: krunchykrome

Originally posted by: Mxylplyx

Originally posted by: RichUK
Only 210Hp from a 4.0L V6 ..... WTF!!!!!!!!!

Seconded. My Accord V6 pulls almost that at 200hp, and it's around 3.0L I think.

Yea, that is a bit sad. My girlfriend's TSX 4 banger puts out 200hp.

Maybe the RWD adds a new dimension to the car, thus compensating for the 210HP. I've never driven a Mustang.

I think you all missed the point of 240ft/lbs@3500. Neither of your honda's can do that. I'm not a fan of Ford exactly, but you can't argue that. I have yet to drive a new one to really comment on it's handling (which is my first preference for a car)

dyno


200 ft-lbs at the wheels at 3500 rpm, ~15% dynojet/drivetrain loss is ~235 ft-lbs at the crank, from a 3.2L engine.
It just happens that peak torque for this engine is at a higher rpm, but rev per rev it will about match.

Before anyone cries about this being an expensive car, the engine is a J series, a simple single cam design, same as what is used in pretty much all current V6 honda products.

I was gearing my response to the TSX.. which in itself isn't a fair comparison since they haev a 2 cylinder difference, but pointing out more of "it's not just HP."

 

[rh71]

I've been meaning to ask this since I'm in the market soon too... what do you guys think of buying warranties from a site like warrantydirect (as linked here)?

 

[fustercluck]

Heh, the dopes really emerge in Car threads. I'm no car expert myself (I don't even drive), but I still laugh at some of the comments being made.

 

[AdamK47]

Originally posted by: tealk
Only 1 way to buy a Mustang...and that is the V8 level or better. It's just pointless otherwise....I mean a Mustang stands for power...they should have never came out with that V6....just a sissy way of saying you drive a mustang...But in reality....IMO a Mustang is for one reason...POWER......

Mustang II?

 

[krunchykrome]

Originally posted by: bigben2wardpitt
unless u are bringing in tons of cash money, why would you ever buy an american car?

silly, silly, silly if you ask me.

I would of bought some kind of german or japanese car with that $$.

Explain your logic please...? Especially regarding the german car..

 

[tealk]

I have a german car....and it was my first foreign car ever...and I must say.....the best car I've ever owned.....

 

[chimmytime]

always lease american.

 

[LTC8K6]

4L V6 210HP?

Pretty low.

Not as bad as the 4.7L V8 in Dodge/Jeeps. 235HP!

 

[iamwiz82]

Originally posted by: LTC8K6
4L V6 210HP?

Pretty low.

Not as bad as the 4.7L V8 in Dodge/Jeeps. 235HP!

300lbft of torque dimwit. I bet you think that the Civic Si is super fast.

 

[iversonyin]

Originally posted by: thomsbrain
no offense, and i'm sure you're happy with your purchase, but: i just don't understand why anyone would buy that car. it's not cool. it's not fast. it's not well-made. it's not economical. it's not comfortable. it's not a good transportation appliance. the only thing it IS good at is making people assume that you're 16, blond, female, and have hibiscus-flower seat covers.

you guys can argue "displacement" all you want. the fact is this car, even with the manual, is slower than your average used V6 family sedan in the same price range, will suffer from weaker long-term resale values, and be less reliable. there's just no "win" to this car.

Its a retro mustang. Its a cool car compare to previous gen. mustang IMO. Cool cars are never perfect nor very practical....

What's cooler to have? A mustang or an accord?

 

[krunchykrome]

Originally posted by: LTC8K6
4L V6 210HP?

Pretty low.

Not as bad as the 4.7L V8 in Dodge/Jeeps. 235HP!

The standard V-6 in all of the new Jeep Wranglers only puts out 205HP not that it matters. You really wouldnt need more than that in a Jeep anyways.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: iversonyin

Originally posted by: thomsbrain
no offense, and i'm sure you're happy with your purchase, but: i just don't understand why anyone would buy that car. it's not cool. it's not fast. it's not well-made. it's not economical. it's not comfortable. it's not a good transportation appliance. the only thing it IS good at is making people assume that you're 16, blond, female, and have hibiscus-flower seat covers.

you guys can argue "displacement" all you want. the fact is this car, even with the manual, is slower than your average used V6 family sedan in the same price range, will suffer from weaker long-term resale values, and be less reliable. there's just no "win" to this car.

Its a retro mustang. Its a cool car compare to previous gen. mustang IMO. Cool cars are never perfect nor very practical....

What's cooler to have? A mustang or an accord?

If it's this Accord (in slightly veiled concept form), I'd take a V6, 6-speed version over any V6 Mustang. Likely will handle better, ride better, accelerate faster, have more room, vastly nicer interior, better fuel economy, more cargo room, safer etc, etc.

 

[Ktulu]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Ktulu

Originally posted by: NFS4
BTW, the Camaro is likely to have the 3.6 liter V6 in addition to the 6.0 liter V8 (as is the case with the Pontiac G8).

3.6 liter V6
261HP @ 6300 RPM
250 lb-ft @ 3200 RPM

I thought they were going with the 3.9L because of costs.

1) The 3.6 is already certified for use in that platform
2) I wasn't aware that the 3.9 was able to be used in a North-South arrangement... although I'm most likely wrong there

http://www.motortrend.com/features/auto_news/2007/112_0704_chevrolet_camaro/

Cost has been an issue for Camaro. But GM sources say entry-level versions will retail from about $21,000. That's because they'll use the cheap-to-build pushrod 3.9-liter V-6 as the entry-level engine. Insiders say Tom Stephens's team at GM Powertrain has been working to improve the refinement of the 3.9.

I also remember hearing that the Camaro would come with 2 v6's and 2 v8's. So the second v6 will most likely be the 3.6L, if only it were the same DI v6 in the new CTS.

 

[CVSiN]

Originally posted by: DaTT

Originally posted by: CVSiN

Originally posted by: SolMiester

Originally posted by: amdforever2
The cost of the vehicle after rebates and everything was 17,590.

Add in taxes at 1358.88, extended warranty at 1695.00, gap insurance at $399.

Total cost: 21042.88


V6 manual, 4.0l 210hp.


*waits for anandtech to tell me I should have saved thousands on a 1995 honda civic with the maxwell house package*


I love my car. It has plenty of power despite being the V6.

Now supercharge it and own V8 models...LOL

yeh good luck with that... base model V8 is now 300HP.. change exhaust and add supercharger ort Turbo or dual turbo to a GT for 450HP+ for less money than he paid new for a POS v6..

V6 needs an dual exhaust change as well as a new rearend and fuel system as well as a different tranny gearing to get any serious power outa it..

please Learn2Stang

V8 Stangs are the flat out cheapest key to wild performance in the V8 world..

Stock they are clogged like Al Bundys Toilet... unclog that exhaust and get it breathing and the horsepower just flows out... CHEAPLY

I Seriously hope you are not speaking of the current Stangs....2 1/2" is hardly "clogged" I did an exhaust job (Bassani cats, X pipe, axle back) and only gained 5hp at the wheels....and that was probably with the hi-flo cats. Ford did a great job with the stock exhaust this time around.

But did you do your heads and intake and cams yet? when I said breathing I mean all the way from the top to the bottom..

but yes I agree the new exhaust is a far cry from every previous year..

And to the guy that said that hardly anyone mods v8 stangs...

LOLOLOLOL...

Come down to Houston man I swear even grandmas have Xpipes and catbacks on...I hardly ever hear stock stangs running around unless they still have dealer tags on them lol..

Fun Ford Weekend just past last week and your be very very surpised what alot of "stock" stangs are packing.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: tealk
Only 1 way to buy a Mustang...and that is the V8 level or better. It's just pointless otherwise....I mean a Mustang stands for power...they should have never came out with that V6....just a sissy way of saying you drive a mustang...But in reality....IMO a Mustang is for one reason...POWER......

The I6 (first Mustangs used an inline 6, not a vee) was the original engine for the Mustang. In fact, the very first Mustang off the production line had an I6. In fact, the car was never initially conceived as a powerful car, it was just supposed to look good and be cheap to attract young buyers.

The 6-cylinder Mustangs are what has kept the Mustang alive, and are the reason the Mustang has out-sold the Camaro. The Mustang has always had a version that worked well as a comfortable, good-looking, reasonably "peppy", commuter car. A "Secretaries' Car". The powerful Mustangs came about because Ford realised that they could offer the big engine and people would go nuts for the performance. The Mustang is alive and the Camaro is not because the V6 Camaros were fussy, stiff, hard to see out of, and overall inconvenient as a commuter car while the 6-cylinder Mustangs were/are quite livable.

I prefer a V8, but don't ever say that the V6 cars are "pointless". The only reason we still have a V8 Mustang is because of the sales volume that the V6 cars allow. Say what you will about them, but never forget that they are the unsung heros that make the V8 versions possible.

ZV

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: AdamK47

Originally posted by: tealk
Only 1 way to buy a Mustang...and that is the V8 level or better. It's just pointless otherwise....I mean a Mustang stands for power...they should have never came out with that V6....just a sissy way of saying you drive a mustang...But in reality....IMO a Mustang is for one reason...POWER......

Mustang II?

Still handily out-sold the Camaro.

ZV

 

[LTC8K6]

300lbft of torque dimwit. I bet you think that the Civic Si is super fast.

What in the world made you think I didn't know the torque figures, or that anyone would be impressed with them? I believe it's 305 in the vehicle I want, anyway.

A Civic Si may well be super fast compared to a DC product with a 4.7L V8!

There's no excuse for a 4.7L V8 to have so little HP, imo. My guess is they wanted the 5.7L hemi to look better since other DC versions of the 4.7L engine are more impressive.

Fortunately they apparently corrected the problem for 2008 with 290HP/320lbft for the next gen 4.7.

 

[bigben2wardpitt]

Originally posted by: krunchykrome

Originally posted by: bigben2wardpitt
unless u are bringing in tons of cash money, why would you ever buy an american car?

silly, silly, silly if you ask me.

I would of bought some kind of german or japanese car with that $$.

Explain your logic please...? Especially regarding the german car..

its my opinion, and the opinion of many that i know, that german cars and japenese cars last are a lot more realiable than any american car company (such as ford)

wanna know why ford has the most repeat buyers every year? because all there cars break down so fast that people have to get new ones, and are too stupid to just buy from a reliable car company.

and sure there are exceptions on both sides (VW and Audi at times can be suspect on reliablility, varies from model to model), and sure you could have a ford f150 last you 15 years, but for the most part japenese>German>american, in terms of reliability, and german over anything with sleak style/design and SPEED!

 

[imthebadguy]

great cars! i love em

 

[krunchykrome]

Originally posted by: bigben2wardpitt

Originally posted by: krunchykrome

Originally posted by: bigben2wardpitt
unless u are bringing in tons of cash money, why would you ever buy an american car?

silly, silly, silly if you ask me.

I would of bought some kind of german or japanese car with that $$.

Explain your logic please...? Especially regarding the german car..

its my opinion, and the opinion of many that i know, that german cars and japenese cars last are a lot more realiable than any american car company (such as ford)

wanna know why ford has the most repeat buyers every year? because all there cars break down so fast that people have to get new ones, and are too stupid to just buy from a reliable car company.

and sure there are exceptions on both sides (VW and Audi at times can be suspect on reliablility, varies from model to model), and sure you could have a ford f150 last you 15 years, but for the most part japenese>German>american, in terms of reliability, and german over anything with sleak style/design and SPEED!

I have to disagree with you there. I would trust an American car more than a German car when it comes to reliability.

In terms of styling, I would definetly have to go with German. And in terms of overall reliability, I'd go with a Japanese car or even Korean.

 

[iversonyin]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: iversonyin

Originally posted by: thomsbrain
no offense, and i'm sure you're happy with your purchase, but: i just don't understand why anyone would buy that car. it's not cool. it's not fast. it's not well-made. it's not economical. it's not comfortable. it's not a good transportation appliance. the only thing it IS good at is making people assume that you're 16, blond, female, and have hibiscus-flower seat covers.

you guys can argue "displacement" all you want. the fact is this car, even with the manual, is slower than your average used V6 family sedan in the same price range, will suffer from weaker long-term resale values, and be less reliable. there's just no "win" to this car.

Its a retro mustang. Its a cool car compare to previous gen. mustang IMO. Cool cars are never perfect nor very practical....

What's cooler to have? A mustang or an accord?

If it's this Accord (in slightly veiled concept form), I'd take a V6, 6-speed version over any V6 Mustang. Likely will handle better, ride better, accelerate faster, have more room, vastly nicer interior, better fuel economy, more cargo room, safer etc, etc.

And practical and still base on a family sedan and still NOT cool as the mustang. Not that I have ANYTHING against the Accord. It is just NOT cool.

 

[jdoggg12]

Originally posted by: iversonyin

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: iversonyin

Originally posted by: thomsbrain
no offense, and i'm sure you're happy with your purchase, but: i just don't understand why anyone would buy that car. it's not cool. it's not fast. it's not well-made. it's not economical. it's not comfortable. it's not a good transportation appliance. the only thing it IS good at is making people assume that you're 16, blond, female, and have hibiscus-flower seat covers.

you guys can argue "displacement" all you want. the fact is this car, even with the manual, is slower than your average used V6 family sedan in the same price range, will suffer from weaker long-term resale values, and be less reliable. there's just no "win" to this car.

Its a retro mustang. Its a cool car compare to previous gen. mustang IMO. Cool cars are never perfect nor very practical....

What's cooler to have? A mustang or an accord?

If it's this Accord (in slightly veiled concept form), I'd take a V6, 6-speed version over any V6 Mustang. Likely will handle better, ride better, accelerate faster, have more room, vastly nicer interior, better fuel economy, more cargo room, safer etc, etc.

And practical and still base on a family sedan and still NOT cool as the mustang. Not that I have ANYTHING against the Accord. It is just NOT cool.

That accord is a lot cooler than the mustang IMO

The last generation of stangs are cooler looking than this one IMO as well

 

[DougK62]

Originally posted by: bigben2wardpitt
its my opinion, and the opinion of many that i know, that german cars and japenese cars last are a lot more realiable than any american car company (such as ford)

wanna know why ford has the most repeat buyers every year? because all there cars break down so fast that people have to get new ones, and are too stupid to just buy from a reliable car company.

and sure there are exceptions on both sides (VW and Audi at times can be suspect on reliablility, varies from model to model), and sure you could have a ford f150 last you 15 years, but for the most part japenese>German>american, in terms of reliability, and german over anything with sleak style/design and SPEED!

German? Reliable? Hahahahahahah. Fanboys are so funny.