Question I am used to EVGA. What is the best 4090 in quality and heat sink ?

[Markfw]

The title says it all. I have no idea what to get.

 

[igor_kavinski]

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 OC Shootout: ASUS, COLORFUL, FE, MSI, GAINWARD

The ultimate GeForce RTX 4090 overclocking showdown: ASUS vs COLORFUL vs GAINWARD vs MSI vs Founders Edition... which overclocks the best?

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COLORFUL beating the rest in OCed temps is a real surprise. So I guess it has the best cooling solution, if you ignore the liquid cooled MSI. However, lowest power usage award goes to the Founder's Edition card.

 

[Stuka87]

From a quality perspective, I think its the founders. But many of the AIB cards are quieter.

 

[DooKey]

They are all about the same for the most part. Pick the one you can get easily, and you'll be happy. FE isn't easy to get. Just don't buy the MSI Windforce since it doesn't have a vapor chamber.

I like my Gigabyte OC. Runs nice and cool. GB offers a four-year warranty with registration if that matters to you.

 

[CP5670]

I like the MSI liquid card in terms of looks and build quality. It's physically small and needs no support bracket, and exhausts all the hot air (which there is a lot of) directly out of the case. It's also fairly common in the US and street prices are similar to other cards. There are two variants out there with either a 530W or 600W power limit, but it doesn't matter in practice. It's the only card that will fit in smaller cases, and is perfect for vertical mounting if your case supports it.

There is another AIO card by Gigabyte with a bigger radiator, but it's much more rare and expensive. The FE card is also good in a lot of ways but hard to find.

They are all about the same for the most part. Pick the one you can get easily, and you'll be happy. FE isn't easy to get. Just don't buy the MSI Windforce since it doesn't have a vapor chamber.

The cheaper AIB cards lack this, but it doesn't seem to matter much, maybe runs 1-2C warmer. They are all similar performance-wise.

 

[Tup3x]

The title says it all. I have no idea what to get.

MSI Suprim and ASUS Strix have the best air coolers. PNY also did a great job. That being said, if getting the quietest possible card doesn't matter, you can just buy pretty much anything.

 

[amenx]

They are all about the same for the most part. Pick the one you can get easily, and you'll be happy. FE isn't easy to get. Just don't buy the MSI Windforce since it doesn't have a vapor chamber.

You mean Gigabyte Windforce? MSI doesnt have one . Agree with above poster, MSI Suprim or Asus Strix. They may be a little higher in price, but when you're going for a 4090 may as well get the best.

 

[DooKey]

You mean Gigabyte Windforce? MSI doesnt have one . Agree with above poster, MSI Suprim or Asus Strix. They may be a little higher in price, but when you're going for a 4090 may as well get the best.

I was thinking gaming trio from MSI. Not sure why my brain typed out Windforce.

 

[utahraptor]

I’ve heard bad things in general about build quality for all of the closed loop brands this generation, but I don’t have hard numbers on how many are doing well. I think MSI may be ahead of Gigabyte on the closed loop based of social media reports. As far as gigabyte wind force and OC I have heard good things on both. I had the Aorus Master and it died within 24 hours. I have heard the Asus Stix is not as special as in previous gens with a huge variation on numbers obtainable speed and temp wise.

 

[aigomorla]

Asus Strix i believe is probably the best for CONUS.
Im like MEH when it comes to MSI, but Suprim X is probably on par with STRIX, however i think STRIX uses better components, sometimes having better power regulation then eVGA FTW series.

I would not EVER get a Gigabyte.
They are all utter garbage. Ive heard too many failing.

Id also avoid Zotac since you'll most likely be folding, and Zotac is not well known for endurance.

 

[In2Photos]

Asus Strix i believe is probably the best for CONUS.
Im like MEH when it comes to MSI, but Suprim X is probably on par with STRIX, however i think STRIX uses better components, sometimes having better power regulation then eVGA FTW series.

I would not EVER get a Gigabyte.
They are all utter garbage. Ive heard too many failing.

Id also avoid Zotac since you'll most likely be folding, and Zotac is not well known for endurance.

I know these are very different cards but I fold with a Zotac 1060 6GB and a 1660 for almost 3 years now with zero issues from the cards.

 

[aigomorla]

I know these are very different cards but I fold with a Zotac 1060 6GB and a 1660 for almost 3 years now with zero issues from the cards.

Its gonna be a play on YMMV.
But Zotac cards tend to be very sloppy with heat pad placement, and heatsinks are not the best.
Gamers Nexus goes over a few of their cards, and Steve is always sighing at Zotac cards.
Since heat is a major play in folding and mining, its not something id really gamble with on a ymmv setting, as it can go both ways.

But i have had a few Zotac cards myself.
They are excellent cards in most cases, but ive also had to repaste, and repad 90% of them out of the box for the poor job, or missing pads they had.
Also there choice in thermal paste seems like whatever is the cheapest, as i noticed, it always looked and felt like a cheap thermal paste.

 

[Puffnstuff]

They are all about the same for the most part. Pick the one you can get easily, and you'll be happy. FE isn't easy to get. Just don't buy the MSI Windforce since it doesn't have a vapor chamber.

I like my Gigabyte OC. Runs nice and cool. GB offers a four-year warranty with registration if that matters to you.

I have the same card and apart from their quirky argb software the card runs cool and fast with no coil whine

 

[CP5670]

That card seems good for its price. I've read the cooler feels cheaply made but it does have great GPU and VRAM temperatures and fewer reports of coil whine than the other cards.

 

[Grooveriding]

I have the MSI Trio, I would have preferred the Gigabyte Gaming, and it was available, but their RMA service has been so abysmal in my experience that I didn't want to risk it in case I had an issue. The card runs cool and quiet for me, high 60s and I can't hear it through my open ear headphones.

I'd have preferred a vapour chamber for the 5C lower temps, but the only other thing in stock when I ordered was the Asus Strix, which is $500 more here in Canada, and it's not worth the money imo. Everything I've looked up online has every model performing on near parity with the differences coming down to the die, rather than the card as a whole. They're all really overbuilt. I think my model is one of the smaller ones, and it's absolutely massive in my tiny 4000D case.

If your main concern is cooler, the Gigabyte Gaming or Aorus have the best cooling performance available that I've seen in reviews.

 

[CP5670]

There is also the Gigabyte Waterforce card, but there is surprisingly little coverage of it and none of the major youtubers have reviewed it. It's pretty rare and expensive. Does anyone here have it? I wonder how it compares to the MSI Liquid card.

 

[MrTeal]

There is also the Gigabyte Waterforce card, but there is surprisingly little coverage of it and none of the major youtubers have reviewed it. It's pretty rare and expensive. Does anyone here have it? I wonder how it compares to the MSI Liquid card.

Is it the AIO? I hope the 40 series improves, but with Ampere Gigabyte had some pretty huge issues with their Waterforce cards. Some models had copper blocks, but some including the custom Waterforce cards had aluminum blocks which is completely ridiculous. You can get away with aluminum in a AIO with an Al rad, but to use nickel plated aluminum in a custom WC card is just a disaster waiting to happen.

 

[igor_kavinski]

I wonder how it compares to the MSI Liquid card.

Apparently, it's crap: https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/yzmb1x

 

[Pohemi]

Always Asus Strix.

If it's an option for a card I'm shopping out, I always went with the Strix model (save for a few Red Devil RX 580s I used for mining). Better cooling, build quality, and QC than most other 3rd party cards, in my personal experience.

I agree with above sentiment(s) about avoiding Gigabyte entirely.

 

[Puffnstuff]

IDK but I've read in other forums where the Asus guys are complaining about bad CW across the entire line of cards this gen. If true that is unacceptable for a $2k card.

 

[CP5670]

Apparently, it's crap: https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/yzmb1x

That looks bad, especially since it's one of the most expensive models.

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

What did you end up going with?

 

[cellarnoise]

If going air cooled, you want a "vapor chamber"! I have a Gigabyte https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N4090GAMING-OC-24GD#kf

Running for a few weeks now. It is in a Fractal Design xl2 meshify with 3 good front fans and a top radiator. Running F@H non-stop TDP limited, but F@H rarely runs over the limiter.... The GPU temp in my cold 65 or less F degree basement the card rarely goes over 54C... So far so good.

I did a bunch of research a month ago, and this one was decent enough for an air-cooled 4090, but that may change as new models are starting to come out, but if you have good airflow, I don't think more heatsink is needed. I have not had a great history with Gig motherboards, but so far perfect with video cards over past 10 years....

Don't over pay for 4090's!

 

[aigomorla]

I have a Gigabyte

Gigabyte has the worst endurance rating.
I cant warn enough to be careful when you get a gigabyte card.
Also there RMA department is utter garbage, on par with ASUS which has almost 0 RMA confidence, but ASUS cards are built overall better, so there is less chance you will need to go though that nightmare of a RMA they have.

I would much rather recommend ASUS ROG/STRIX = MSI Suprim > ASUS TUF = MSI Trio > Zotac AMP > NVIDIA OEM >> PNY > Gigabyte at the end.
Seriously, id rather get a Zotac card, and repad and retim it, rather then get a gigabyte card.
I do not have faith with gigabyte lately, there cards are not up to par nor are there boards.

 

[igor_kavinski]

I would much rather recommend ASUS ROG/STRIX = MSI Suprim > ASUS TUF = MSI Trio > Zotac AMP > NVIDIA OEM >> PNY > Gigabyte at the end.

PNY being worse than FE and Zotac, do you have experience with them? Their Revel card user reviews seemed to paint a good picture of their cooling effectiveness. That's why I got a PNY Revel 3080 10GB on sale. But when I went to sell it due to losing confidence in the low VRAM, the shopkeepers treated it like a junk brand. I sold it at HALF the price I got it for and it was NIB.

Also, FE cards are made by PNY, right?