I Am Starting to Dislike Computers :(

dfloyd

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I am in the market for a new monitor.

I am driving myself crazy trying to make up my mind.

I have no way to go and see the monitors in person and that is the problem.

I was going to get a L90D+. But then Dell has these great dells on the 2005FPW. Wow very cool, a wide screen lcd. Oh but wait those end on the fifteenth, so thats out of the picture. Well back to the L90D+ or maybe the 930B. Oh but guess what, Dell extends their coupons. Wow very nice, I can get the 2005FPW. But wait whats this I hear about some coating that makes LCDs look a whole lot better. Something that NEC and Sony has. Hmm better investigate this, cant find any info on how good they actually are overall. But then I find a really cool thread talking about a new 8MS 16.7 Million Color MVA Panel that has the cool coating, Enter the Viewsonic VP191B. Or dont enter it, reason is its a new panel but with the same name as a old panel, but if I order from Dell and try to get the new panel there is no guarantee I will get the new panel, as Dells site claims they have the old Panel but Dell Customer service claimed their info is probably wrong and I should go ahead and order. But I also read that some of the Dell 1905s are using this panel but I cant find anywhere to confirm this. I keep asking myself though would I be happier with the improved colors of the VP191B or should I go with the 2005FPW as wide screen gaming just seems very cool, of course it is cool except in some games when your online as they wont let you game in wide screen (LIKE COD) because using a different fov is considered cheating so would it be cool? Well almost make up my mind and then in the mail comes my Provantage catalog, ah well figure I can glance through it, WHAT THE HECK IS THIS!!!!!! Viewsonic VX924 for $438 with a 4MS RESPONSE TIME!!!!!


EHHHHHH I CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE!!!!! SOMEONE ANYONE HELP!!!!!

Man I hate buying parts that I dont plan to upgrade for a long period of time. Why cant it be as simple as buying a CPU, or Ram, or a Hard Drive. Trying to purchase a new monitor is driving me nuts.
 

dfloyd

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Thats another part of the equation that I forgot to mention, I am on a pretty limited budget. Right at $450 so has to be around or under that amount.
 

nitromullet

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Originally posted by: dfloyd
Thats another part of the equation that I forgot to mention, I am on a pretty limited budget. Right at $450 so has to be around or under that amount.

Well, if you can get a 2005FPW for ~$450, go for it. Most 19" panels are 1280x1024, while the 2005FPW is 1680x1050. I paid over $550 for mine, and I'm happy with it.

Originally posted by: keeleysam
Just get an Apple 20" if you are goign to keep it for a long time.

Yes, the 20" Apple Cinema Display has a nicer exterior (c'mon, you're comparing Dell to Apple), but the panels inside are the same. AT compared the two a while back and couldn't justify spending the extra on the Apple monitor.

http://www.anandtech.com/displays/showdoc.aspx?i=2400

The way I see it, if you don't have one of those awesome looking G5's, you don't need to invest in a matching Apple display. My PowerBook G4's output looks just as good on my 2005FPW as it would on an Apple LCD.
 

Dkcode

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I am using a VP171B Panel and its a extremely solid panel. However mine is the first version (16ms) the one you want is the VP171B-2 same but with 8ms.
 

dfloyd

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Great info thank you all.

And I would guess it should be a -2 Dk on the VP191B but it is not. You can go to viewsonics site and confirm. They are using the exact same model number.

One thing you could confirm for me though is do you know if that model uses the covering that makes the colors and contrast look much better? I think its called Optibright on NEC but cant remember at the moment. I had read that the VP191B does include that coating, but cant find that info.

And yep on the 2005FPW I can get it for $414 before tax with a thrustmaster gamepad (Had to add it to meet second coupons reqs) and its about $437 after shipped. Wide screen seems awesome but I guess what still worrys me is when I cant do wide screen. For instance I play COD alot online and its considered cheating to change to fov so I cant change the fov and play it online. So it would have black on both sides or be streched strangely. Also not being able to see them is a pain, some have reported that the 2005FPW has a strange very grainy look to it. Not sure what they are talking about but those two issues are what have made me hesitant to purchase.
 

fstime

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A lot of people love their Dell LCDs.

Their 19inch LCD doesnt seem so good, ghosting problems.

I vote for the 2005.

It has a faster response time than the 2001 which will put you on the safe side.

And its widescreen.
 

nitromullet

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For instance I play COD alot online and its considered cheating to change to fov so I cant change the fov and play it online. So it would have black on both sides or be streched strangely. Also not being able to see them is a pain, some have reported that the 2005FPW has a strange very grainy look to it. Not sure what they are talking about but those two issues are what have made me hesitant to purchase.

Your game will be stretched slightly if you can't adjust the FOV. but it really wouldn't be an issue to me personally. I would not base your decision on whether to go widescreen on one game. Widescreen is the future of displays, and I don't foresee any of the newer games coming out not supporting it. Additonally, the real estate that you gain from going with a 20" widescreen as opposed to a standard 19" is considerable.

I'm also not familar with the grainy look that you are referring to. As a matter of fact ever since I got my LCD, I have been far more critical on other displays and more often disappointed, since the Dell 2005FPW looks so damn good. There is a bit of backlighting bleed through and I have one stuck pixel, but I only notice either of those when the screen is pitch black. Either way, Dell will take your monitor back and refund your money if you aren't happy with it in the first 21 days (check their site to confirm the actual number of days), so I think it's worth the risk of buying without seeing it first.

That is my 2 cents worth. Personally, I wouldn't be caught dead buying a standard 19" panel if it cost the same as the Dell 2005FPW... Then again, it's your money... so do what you want.
 

Chode Messiah

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2005 or an nec i have a 19"nec w/12ms response time and it pwns the hell out of everything else.(higher contrast ratio,better picture,etc.)
 

daxon

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Question:

How well does the 2005FPW handle scaling down to lower resolutions?

I'm very interested in getting the display but am worried that running games in that high of a resolution (1680 x 1050) because my video card is just a Radeon 9800 Pro. I generally run most newer games in 1280 x 1024.
 

AznAnarchy99

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hmm im gettin interested in that dell moniter now..

btw after reading that first post made me giggle =P
 

dfloyd

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Well I took everyones advice and went ahead and ordered the 2005FPW.

Now I get to wait. Wish I could of gotten it from Newegg for that price (Usually get everything from then in two days max and no taxes). I ordered it last night and Dell is not even planning on shipping it out till the 26th. I could understand if it was a computer that had to be assembled but a monitor should not take that many days to ship out imo. Oh well guess I will have it in nine to ten days or so. I am guessing I can hold my breath that long, just a bit never wrecking after the complicated decision :p

Thanks again for advice, I hope it turns out to be as cool as I am thinking it will be.
 

thraxes

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Well they have to build my new one first before they make yours... all because the one they sent me is a dud

-intermittant (sometimes an entire day not working and other times it will run for 12 hrs without a problem) green distortion with green ghosting, even on the self test display with the monitor only hooked up to the mains. No biggie, they are sending me a new oe and it should arrive later today. Other than that it's an excellent display
 

JonnyBlaze

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another vote on the 2005fp. my home one is coming tomorrow. i have been using one at work for a while now and love it. im gonna get the 2405 when i can afford it and wont ever need another monitor, until 30" lcd are affordable ;)

 

bamacre

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Originally posted by: dfloyd
Well I took everyones advice and went ahead and ordered the 2005FPW.

Now I get to wait. Wish I could of gotten it from Newegg for that price (Usually get everything from then in two days max and no taxes). I ordered it last night and Dell is not even planning on shipping it out till the 26th. I could understand if it was a computer that had to be assembled but a monitor should not take that many days to ship out imo. Oh well guess I will have it in nine to ten days or so. I am guessing I can hold my breath that long, just a bit never wrecking after the complicated decision :p

Thanks again for advice, I hope it turns out to be as cool as I am thinking it will be.

Hope you used the coupons, I got one in my cart for $403.33 + tax.
 

dfloyd

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Yep Bam,

I used the coupons. Got it with a router (Kind of high overall but when you knock of how much I saved came out pretty well.

Was right at $460 after tax and shipping. For some reason they put shipping on, then split it in half, then took half off then took the other half off, then at final they added half back on, was really confusing. So like $7.50 shipping. Tax was about $40. So around $420 without shipping and tax and with the router.
 

JBT

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I would just jump on the next Dell 2005 deal. They have them almost every other week.