I am so angry right now.

Topweasel

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As Everyone has found out The Chipset fan on the original run of A8N-SLI deluxe boards sucks, I thought my board was recent enough to have avioded it. I was wrong. Thats it for me, no active cooling ever again on my motherboards. It just sucks I was going to get the A8N32-SLI Premium when it became available but now I need a new board soon and theose are not selling yet. Arghhhh.... Hopefully I can make due with a refurb Premium I just ordered from Newegg.

Arghhh again it just sucks to come home and find that your Chipset with an external sensor is sitting at 84C (did not even look at Asus Probe I was already to frightened and power that off as quick as possible.)

Argghhh And just in time for Nvidias Dual CPU drivers (Beta but a Public beta).... I could so break that board over my knee right now.

/rant over.
 

RiDE

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There's a demo of that board at the Crossroads Parkway Fry's over here and you can see the fan is dead too... but people still play BF2 on it all day. lol
 

o1die

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I would just get a better northbridge heatsink, and forget about the fan. Mine has been unplugged for months now. 84c sounds like a false reading. Apply some fresh thermal paste to your heatsink and see if the temp drops.
 

Topweasel

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Originally posted by: o1die
I would just get a better northbridge heatsink, and forget about the fan. Mine has been unplugged for months now. 84c sounds like a false reading. Apply some fresh thermal paste to your heatsink and see if the temp drops.

Not a false reading although 40C (which I thinkis what Asus Probe said) makes more sense, the 85C is from one of 2 case sensors that I have with my P160. But when I opened my case I wanted to see If asus probe was right (I don't know why I said I didn't look at it like I said above it was the reason I checked), when I put my hand on the heatsink to check if the fan was spinning (its below the desk and hard to see at night) my figure almost got burned, I mean seriously I had to remove it instantly when I touched it. I am Lucky I didn't burn myself but it did hurt for a little while.

Arghhh still pissed.

I would just get another Heatsink for it but I figured I wanted a premium any ways but I was holding out for the A8N32-SLI, now I get the Preium for the cost of a A8N-SLI and won't feel as bad replacing it if I decide the A8N32 is worth it.

Won't be happy till the board comes in and I prey that it works because I hate the Idea of buying a refurb.
 

The Pentium Guy

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You know that you can email ASUS and they'll send you a fan replacement? And this time it'll be a quieter unit found in the A8N-E revision 2.0s.
 

Topweasel

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No I am aware and I plan on doingg so after the switch, I might use the board for something else later or pawn it off on a friend. Its just that would take longer then bying a retail chipset HSF. I could probably use the system as is right noe but I don't want to take a chance at data curruption considering I am currently using the Nvidia SATA connectors. The Premium is what I wanted anyways but came out shortly after I got my Deluxe. It just sucks because if you chekc some of my posts I have stated a couple of times the first sign of trouble with my Deluxe and I was going to purchase the A8N32-SLI, it just happend have it failure a month or so early. Oh well the Premium has 97.5% of the features I wanted out of the A8N32 with pretty much the dual true 16x setting it apart. On the Other hand the Premium supports 8 SATA drives and the A8N32 only supports 6 (although the 2 none Nvidia ports are 300MB/s (sata2/Sata hybrid) but since I don't think it is true SATA2 it won't make any difference.
 

n7

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Stay away from Asus, & all will be well :)

Asus = crap for pretty much all their A64 mobos.
 

Topweasel

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Originally posted by: n7
Stay away from Asus, & all will be well :)

Asus = crap for pretty much all their A64 mobos.

I disagree my A8N-SLI deluxe ran great besides the chipset fan problem. I am not even upset at Asus for this because I knew going in that it might be a problem. I was just angry that I probably for me happened at the worse time, and didn't give me any warning signs that it was going to happen so that I could have thought ahead with a better solution then buying a new board.

Oh well getting over it, it took a day in a half and Newegg has finally shipped the Premium, as long as I get it beofre this weekend I will be happy.
 

Topweasel

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No, you got me wrong there, I refuse to replace a broken part I didn't break out of my own pocket (personal policy) and I prefered and would have gotten the Premium originally. I was looking for the A8N32 which I have previously stated a single issue from my deluxe and I would purchase that. I then saw the Premium at a nice price (even if its a refurb) and decided that the Preium would make me happier and I could then work with ASUS for as long as it took to replace the HSF, and when that was replaced I could use the deluxe for another project or pawn it off on a friend.
 

Tarrant64

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Originally posted by: n7
Stay away from Asus, & all will be well :)

Asus = crap for pretty much all their A64 mobos.


Don't crap on Asus unless you've tried it. They've some of the most reliable stable boards for non-OCers out there. My first A64 board was an Asus. My first AXP board was an Asus. Never had an issue until I went to push it out of stock settings. Eventually had to move to DFI for that.

Asus tends to be rock solid if you get the right stuff.
 

Topweasel

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Originally posted by: Tarrant64
Originally posted by: n7
Stay away from Asus, & all will be well :)

Asus = crap for pretty much all their A64 mobos.


Don't crap on Asus unless you've tried it. They've some of the most reliable stable boards for non-OCers out there. My first A64 board was an Asus. My first AXP board was an Asus. Never had an issue until I went to push it out of stock settings. Eventually had to move to DFI for that.

Asus tends to be rock solid if you get the right stuff.

Agreed, I knew going into that their was a problem some some of the early chipset fans, I was building my machine at the time and really never even thought of getting another manufacturers board. I hoped I got one with the second gen fan, that didn't happen to be the case. It worked great for while it ran, i am just more angry/disapointed that it failed without notice because I wasn't prepaired for the full failure. If the fan died the way every one I read had I would already have the asus replacement.
 

n7

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Originally posted by: Tarrant64
Originally posted by: n7
Stay away from Asus, & all will be well :)

Asus = crap for pretty much all their A64 mobos.


Don't crap on Asus unless you've tried it. They've some of the most reliable stable boards for non-OCers out there. My first A64 board was an Asus. My first AXP board was an Asus. Never had an issue until I went to push it out of stock settings. Eventually had to move to DFI for that.

Asus tends to be rock solid if you get the right stuff.


Guess what.

My first two PCs i built used Asus mobo, since of course, i was a n00b & thought they were good.

Asus has this reputation that isn't based on current facts, but more on the past.

After two crappy (supposedly great though) Asus mobos, i won't be touching their products any time soon.

There's no reason to justify your Asus purchase saying it's good as long as you don't OC.
If you don't OC, then you should be buying ECS, since they are great too as long as you don't OC :roll:

I've seen to many issues on the A64 Asus mobos, & experienced my own enough to be smarter than to believe the hype.
 

Viperoni

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I had a client's Abit A7V-333 (or something along those lines) chipset fan die on him, took out the chipset too. My A8N-E has been chugging along for something like 4-5 months with the "old-style" chispet fan, I really don't like it. One of these days I'll get a Zalman on there.
 

Topweasel

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Originally posted by: n7
Originally posted by: Tarrant64
Originally posted by: n7
Stay away from Asus, & all will be well :)

Asus = crap for pretty much all their A64 mobos.


Don't crap on Asus unless you've tried it. They've some of the most reliable stable boards for non-OCers out there. My first A64 board was an Asus. My first AXP board was an Asus. Never had an issue until I went to push it out of stock settings. Eventually had to move to DFI for that.

Asus tends to be rock solid if you get the right stuff.


Guess what.

My first two PCs i built used Asus mobo, since of course, i was a n00b & thought they were good.

Asus has this reputation that isn't based on current facts, but more on the past.

After two crappy (supposedly great though) Asus mobos, i won't be touching their products any time soon.

There's no reason to justify your Asus purchase saying it's good as long as you don't OC.
If you don't OC, then you should be buying ECS, since they are great too as long as you don't OC :roll:

I've seen to many issues on the A64 Asus mobos, & experienced my own enough to be smarter than to believe the hype.

To say You can't overclock with them is completely wrong. They might have not quite have the settings it takes to reach world records but they do decent to fine when you figure out the quirks. I have been using Asus boards for almost 10 years after several attempts to try other companies and have failed. I have yet to find a board that fits my tastes from them and outside this known possible failure of a insignificant hunk of aluminum and cheap 5 cent fan. I knew this was an possibility and I took a chance because I thought my board might end up being the newer style, I was wrong but this isn't a blind failure no matter how quick it went from working to dead. If ECS provided a board like the deluxe or especially the premium then I might think about it, but unlike my trouble free asus history getting past ECS's horrible history or their 7-8 different names is kind of hard.
 

Tarrant64

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If you don't OC, ECS is still a crap board compared to the Asus. Seriously, i don't know what the h3ll you're talking about. Asus's reputation isn't based on the past and is very current. Reviews consitently proven they remain reliable boards. People who obviously want to OC know where to go besides Asus, that's their deal. Shooting for something like ECS with less features just isn't worth it when you can get a reliable, fully featured, and well known board from Asus.

EDIT:
Better yet, find me a review that proves Asus to be consistently crap. Not one that says Asus isn't worth it because it lacks OC abilities. And not some fanboy forum post from a group of people who just happen to have bad luck.
 

Topweasel

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Originally posted by: Tarrant64
If you don't OC, ECS is still a crap board compared to the Asus. Seriously, i don't know what the h3ll you're talking about. Asus's reputation isn't based on the past and is very current. Reviews consitently proven they remain reliable boards. People who obviously want to OC know where to go besides Asus, that's their deal. Shooting for something like ECS with less features just isn't worth it when you can get a reliable, fully featured, and well known board from Asus.

EDIT:
Better yet, find me a review that proves Asus to be consistently crap. Not one that says Asus isn't worth it because it lacks OC abilities. And not some fanboy forum post from a group of people who just happen to have bad luck.

Exactly, I hate what furoms have become, basically they group these peole who have the same problem together and then they go on a tangent about how crappy everything that company makes is. Then every other little problem that later comes up no matter how low the % of people having that problem and it is blown out of proportion and turned into another example of how crappy that company is. The only problem I have ever had with Asus is this chipset fan and considering the problems I have had form Gigabyte, Abit, Soyo, MSI (which really wasn't that bad), Tyan, FIC, PCchips (now ECS), It is hard to get overworked about it nomatter how many people have the same problem. Considering the fact that no stock CPU cooler has lasted over a year for me it is even harder to get worked up about this little highspeed fan failure.
 

Topweasel

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Update, got my Premium installed works great. Just one Problem, I placed one of my case sensors at the chipset for temp monitoring (so I could watch something like this happening. Well apparently it fried because now of the 2 that one now only reads 00. Thats funny.
 

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Originally posted by: n7
Originally posted by: Tarrant64
Originally posted by: n7
Stay away from Asus, & all will be well :)

Asus = crap for pretty much all their A64 mobos.


Don't crap on Asus unless you've tried it. They've some of the most reliable stable boards for non-OCers out there. My first A64 board was an Asus. My first AXP board was an Asus. Never had an issue until I went to push it out of stock settings. Eventually had to move to DFI for that.

Asus tends to be rock solid if you get the right stuff.


Guess what.

My first two PCs i built used Asus mobo, since of course, i was a n00b & thought they were good.

Asus has this reputation that isn't based on current facts, but more on the past.

After two crappy (supposedly great though) Asus mobos, i won't be touching their products any time soon.

There's no reason to justify your Asus purchase saying it's good as long as you don't OC.
If you don't OC, then you should be buying ECS, since they are great too as long as you don't OC :roll:

I've seen to many issues on the A64 Asus mobos, & experienced my own enough to be smarter than to believe the hype.

I agree with N7. I used to have Asus in the P3 and Athlon times, different chipsets (Intel, Via, Nvidia). What normally happened:
1) Issues with cold boot (computer would only work after a reset);
2) Sudden Death after 3 to 6 months;
3) Limited overclocking;
4) Support webpage (BIOS) very slow or not accessible most of times;
5) Crappy coolers dying after a couple of months;

As I also normally troubleshoot my friend's computer, I can tell a similar experience from their sides. I had to replace 2 mainboards for computers that were around 1,5 year old.

Asus reputation lies somewhere in the past.

PS: Oh yeah, I use good quality PSUs, cooling and other stuff.
 

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I had an ASUS A8N-SLI Premium before I got fed up with it and got the DFI instead.

First of all, it couldn't supply steady voltage. Second, it NEVER supplied the voltage you asked of it in the BIOS- it always fluctuated between two numbers - neither of which were close to the one you asked for. Third, it couldn't handle the IRQ management when my RAID card was plugged into the PCI-E slot- I always had to cntrl-alt-delete twice during bootup to make it see my Raid card. Fourth, the physical quality of the components on the board were crappy, cheap, bulk-item stuff they just threw on the board. O.K., maybe I'm exagerrating on the components being "crappy" BUT- compared to the DFI - they ARE. Trust me on this- the quality of the components on DFIs really are much, much better.

The ASUS had a better manual though. :D Other than that.. oh yeah- I liked the heat-pipe idea on the ASUS.

I was an ASUS fan for YEARS. I always trusted them before this. I had always thought of the DFIs as being these flashy, cheap mobos that weren't on the same level as ASUS. Boy was I wrong... the DFI really is head and shoulders above the ASUS- ANY ASUS.