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I am sick of Plexter VS (ANY) : Plextor dont build a single CDR!!!
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Do you have some kind of point hidden in there somewhere?
As for your "LEGENDARY ANTI FBI SERVER" it is not Legendary at all, nor is it a server (it's a slighly pumped system with alot of weak IDE storage space), and it is not ANTI FBI or FBI PROOF at all either. Simply encrypting data does not render it theft proof nor does it render the system safe. Even a 1024bit encryption can be weak if it's based on a crappy cypher. And what about key loggers etc that don't care if your data is encrypted on the HD. Not to mention that your data has to be decrypted for you to use it. And the fact that you'll be using ethernet which you don't even need a physical connection to intercept (the cables aren't sheilded enough to prevent 'listening' at short distances).
Thorin
Do you have some kind of point hidden in there somewhere?
As for your "LEGENDARY ANTI FBI SERVER" it is not Legendary at all, nor is it a server (it's a slighly pumped system with alot of weak IDE storage space), and it is not ANTI FBI or FBI PROOF at all either. Simply encrypting data does not render it theft proof nor does it render the system safe. Even a 1024bit encryption can be weak if it's based on a crappy cypher. And what about key loggers etc that don't care if your data is encrypted on the HD. Not to mention that your data has to be decrypted for you to use it. And the fact that you'll be using ethernet which you don't even need a physical connection to intercept (the cables aren't sheilded enough to prevent 'listening' at short distances).
Thorin
As for your "LEGENDARY ANTI FBI SERVER" it is not Legendary at all, nor is it a server (it's a slighly pumped system with alot of weak IDE storage space),
weak IDE ???
and it is not ANTI FBI or FBI PROOF at all either. Simply encrypting data does not render it theft proof nor does it render the system safe. Even a 1024bit encryption can be weak if it's based on a crappy cypher.
blowfish 256bit
And what about key loggers
right now I have no keylogger installed!
etc that don't care if your data is encrypted on the HD. Not to mention that your data has to be decrypted for you to use it.
My P4 can pump out 18mb/s good enough for fast ethernet!
And the fact that you'll be using ethernet which you don't even need a physical connection to intercept (the cables aren't sheilded enough to prevent 'listening' at short distances).
the point is all the data is encrypted all the time!
compare this with your server dude!
weak IDE ???
and it is not ANTI FBI or FBI PROOF at all either. Simply encrypting data does not render it theft proof nor does it render the system safe. Even a 1024bit encryption can be weak if it's based on a crappy cypher.
blowfish 256bit
And what about key loggers
right now I have no keylogger installed!
etc that don't care if your data is encrypted on the HD. Not to mention that your data has to be decrypted for you to use it.
My P4 can pump out 18mb/s good enough for fast ethernet!
And the fact that you'll be using ethernet which you don't even need a physical connection to intercept (the cables aren't sheilded enough to prevent 'listening' at short distances).
the point is all the data is encrypted all the time!
compare this with your server dude!
<< As many other they just buy some white stuff get a firmware and print plextor on it!
Thats ALL!
*CONFIRMED* >>
Plextor use BURN-Proof technology that is patented by Sanyo. AFAIK, they build their own drives. My Plextor 16 speeder was made by Shinano Kenshi Ltd, who owns Plextor.
">> right now I have no keylogger installed!"
You hope.
">> My P4 can pump out 18mb/s good enough for fast ethernet! "
And? It still has to be decrypted for you to view/use it.
">> the point is all the data is encrypted all the time!"
If all your data was encrypted all the time you'd never be able to do anything. The data may be stored on your HD encrypted but it has to be decypted for use and display. And it may be encrypted for transmition but can still be intercepted, decrypted, and tampered with.
">> compare this with your server dude!"
As I already pointed out this isn't a server, it's a system with alot of weak non-redundant storage.
BTW you didn't even link it up right in your sig. The link sould point to:
http://www.anandtech.com/mysystemrig.html?rigid=14309
Lastly "BestCrypt's" source code is available to 'Developers' (read anyone) and they use DES as one of it's default encryptions, do you know how quick distributed.net broke DES? (The previous US Gov't Standard)
Thorin
You hope.
">> My P4 can pump out 18mb/s good enough for fast ethernet! "
And? It still has to be decrypted for you to view/use it.
">> the point is all the data is encrypted all the time!"
If all your data was encrypted all the time you'd never be able to do anything. The data may be stored on your HD encrypted but it has to be decypted for use and display. And it may be encrypted for transmition but can still be intercepted, decrypted, and tampered with.
">> compare this with your server dude!"
As I already pointed out this isn't a server, it's a system with alot of weak non-redundant storage.
BTW you didn't even link it up right in your sig. The link sould point to:
http://www.anandtech.com/mysystemrig.html?rigid=14309
Lastly "BestCrypt's" source code is available to 'Developers' (read anyone) and they use DES as one of it's default encryptions, do you know how quick distributed.net broke DES? (The previous US Gov't Standard)
Thorin
... which tells us that they are overpriced and overrated drives...
So far for the money, you can't beat stuff like the Lite-On, and LG, I really love my LG 16X burner and it's like 50% less than a Plexwriter, I have not had A SINGLE PROBLEM with my LG, and for a lot less coin.. boo to Plextor!
So far for the money, you can't beat stuff like the Lite-On, and LG, I really love my LG 16X burner and it's like 50% less than a Plexwriter, I have not had A SINGLE PROBLEM with my LG, and for a lot less coin.. boo to Plextor!
">> right now I have no keylogger installed!"
You hope.
I know!
">> My P4 can pump out 18mb/s good enough for fast ethernet! "
And? It still has to be decrypted for you to view/use it.
Where is the problem my server is 99% idle all the time
">> the point is all the data is encrypted all the time!"
If all your data was encrypted all the time you'd never be able to do anything. The data may be stored on your HD encrypted but it has to be decypted for use and display. And it may be encrypted for transmition but can still be intercepted, decrypted, and tampered with.
But in the end its encrypted again!
">> compare this with your server dude!"
As I already pointed out this isn't a server, it's a system with alot of weak non-redundant storage.
Important stuff IS redundant !
My po*n,and movies not who cares!
BTW you didn't even link it up right in your sig. The link sould point to:
http://www.anandtech.com/mysystemrig.html?rigid=14309
OK!
Lastly "BestCrypt's" source code is available to 'Developers' (read anyone) and they use DES as one of it's default encryptions, do you know how quick distributed.net broke DES? (The previous US Gov't Standard)
Did I said I am using 56-DES?
BTW DES is not supportet anymore for BC!
only for old stuff!
Thorin <B>
</B>
You hope.
I know!
">> My P4 can pump out 18mb/s good enough for fast ethernet! "
And? It still has to be decrypted for you to view/use it.
Where is the problem my server is 99% idle all the time
">> the point is all the data is encrypted all the time!"
If all your data was encrypted all the time you'd never be able to do anything. The data may be stored on your HD encrypted but it has to be decypted for use and display. And it may be encrypted for transmition but can still be intercepted, decrypted, and tampered with.
But in the end its encrypted again!
">> compare this with your server dude!"
As I already pointed out this isn't a server, it's a system with alot of weak non-redundant storage.
Important stuff IS redundant !
My po*n,and movies not who cares!
BTW you didn't even link it up right in your sig. The link sould point to:
http://www.anandtech.com/mysystemrig.html?rigid=14309
OK!
Lastly "BestCrypt's" source code is available to 'Developers' (read anyone) and they use DES as one of it's default encryptions, do you know how quick distributed.net broke DES? (The previous US Gov't Standard)
Did I said I am using 56-DES?
BTW DES is not supportet anymore for BC!
only for old stuff!
Thorin <B>
</B>
??? then why are plextors physically different from sanyos? i have an Iomega zipCD, its a rebadged sanyo. I've seen another one sold under the same name by Iomega, its a rebadged plextor. the drives are PHYSICALLY different. the plextor has one light, the sanyo has two, IIRC
NelsonMuntz
Golden Member
Sanyo develops the controller chips that are used by a lot of CDRW manufacturers (including Plextor), but that is a lot different than rebadging a drive made by Sanyo. Your statement is like saying a board made by ASUS based on a Via chipset is a rebadged Via board. Not true. In this case Sanyo does produce their own drives as well, but they aren't being sold rebadged under the names Plextor or Lite-On or Ricoh or Yamaha or Sony or ASUS or WAITEC or Mitsumi or TEAC or AOpen or TDK who all make their own drives. They could be rebadged under the names Logitec or Hi-Val or Creative or others. Thank you, that is all.
Bozo Galora
Diamond Member
yet another inflammatory post
always trying to rile things up
NelsonMuntz
Golden Member
For more information about what I was talking about seethis article at CDRINFO Close to the end there is this paragraph:
You might wonder why so great attention for Sanyo chipsets. First you have to remember which manufacturers use them. Sanyo Electric and Plextor are two of the biggest drive makers that surely will use them for upcoming recorders. We have already posted the specs of Plextor PX-ML3630 but now we know that will support DVD-ROM playback (16X speed)! Also upcoming TDK's MLCDRW1000 recorder will use Sanyo Chipsets.
I think this should clear things up a little.
You might wonder why so great attention for Sanyo chipsets. First you have to remember which manufacturers use them. Sanyo Electric and Plextor are two of the biggest drive makers that surely will use them for upcoming recorders. We have already posted the specs of Plextor PX-ML3630 but now we know that will support DVD-ROM playback (16X speed)! Also upcoming TDK's MLCDRW1000 recorder will use Sanyo Chipsets.
I think this should clear things up a little.
I don't know much about manufacturing rom drives, but I think that the others have a stronger argument.
/me points and laughs at 256 bit encryption!!!
If the FBI cared about what you were doing with your computer (which they don't, face it, you're not as important as you think you are) they could phreak you pretty easily. You must be Mastertech in disguise or something. There is no need for anyone to have the server that you specified for personal use, except for GLOAT PURPOSES!!!
Where is the problem my server is 99% idle all the time
That is a problem, I call that a waste of good computer hardware ..
Gloating sucks so SUCK IT.
/me points and laughs at 256 bit encryption!!!
If the FBI cared about what you were doing with your computer (which they don't, face it, you're not as important as you think you are) they could phreak you pretty easily. You must be Mastertech in disguise or something. There is no need for anyone to have the server that you specified for personal use, except for GLOAT PURPOSES!!!
Where is the problem my server is 99% idle all the time
That is a problem, I call that a waste of good computer hardware ..
Gloating sucks so SUCK IT.
As far as I know Intel is doing nothing but the marketing. They're actually selling AMD CPUs. Intel = AMD.
Its a information direct from Silicon Valley!
btw, I just got into recording Futurama and Simpsons episodes, and there, it would be pretty practical to have so much space, but of course he doesn't use it for this, THE LEGENDARY ANTI-FBI SERVER is 99% idle.
<< That is a problem, I call that a waste of good computer hardware .. >>
Its a information direct from Silicon Valley!
btw, I just got into recording Futurama and Simpsons episodes, and there, it would be pretty practical to have so much space, but of course he doesn't use it for this, THE LEGENDARY ANTI-FBI SERVER is 99% idle.
<< That is a problem, I call that a waste of good computer hardware .. >>
Heh soo much fun 🙂 Some people should know when to give up.
">>> right now I have no keylogger installed!"
>> You hope.
>I know!"
You don't follow the news do you? Transparents FBI keyloggers has been a huge thing in the news and on /. recently.
">>> My P4 can pump out 18mb/s good enough for fast ethernet! "
>> And? It still has to be decrypted for you to view/use it.
> Where is the problem my server is 99% idle all the time "
1) If it's 99% idle then it obviously isn't serving anything and I re-iterate my point that your box with lots of storage is not a server.
2) If the data is decrypted it is insecure.
">>> the point is all the data is encrypted all the time!"
>> If all your data was encrypted all the time you'd never be able to do anything. The data may be stored on your HD encrypted but it has to be decypted for use and display. And it may be encrypted for transmition but can still be intercepted, decrypted, and tampered with.
> But in the end its encrypted again!"
See #2 above.
"Did I said I am using 56-DES? BTW DES is not supportet anymore for BC! only for old stuff!"
No you didn't say you were using DES nor did you say you weren't. And it is supported check their FAQ for the latest version.
The point is: 1) Simply having a fast system with alot of storage does not make it a server. 2) Encrypting data only makes it secure during storage not during use or transmission. 3) As long as the system is on and connected to anything (network wise) then it's vulnerable especially when it's idle 99% of the time. 4) As long as the system is in a non-secure environment it is vulnerable to data theft both from storage and transmission, encrypted or not.
Thorin
">>> right now I have no keylogger installed!"
>> You hope.
>I know!"
You don't follow the news do you? Transparents FBI keyloggers has been a huge thing in the news and on /. recently.
">>> My P4 can pump out 18mb/s good enough for fast ethernet! "
>> And? It still has to be decrypted for you to view/use it.
> Where is the problem my server is 99% idle all the time "
1) If it's 99% idle then it obviously isn't serving anything and I re-iterate my point that your box with lots of storage is not a server.
2) If the data is decrypted it is insecure.
">>> the point is all the data is encrypted all the time!"
>> If all your data was encrypted all the time you'd never be able to do anything. The data may be stored on your HD encrypted but it has to be decypted for use and display. And it may be encrypted for transmition but can still be intercepted, decrypted, and tampered with.
> But in the end its encrypted again!"
See #2 above.
"Did I said I am using 56-DES? BTW DES is not supportet anymore for BC! only for old stuff!"
No you didn't say you were using DES nor did you say you weren't. And it is supported check their FAQ for the latest version.
The point is: 1) Simply having a fast system with alot of storage does not make it a server. 2) Encrypting data only makes it secure during storage not during use or transmission. 3) As long as the system is on and connected to anything (network wise) then it's vulnerable especially when it's idle 99% of the time. 4) As long as the system is in a non-secure environment it is vulnerable to data theft both from storage and transmission, encrypted or not.
Thorin
Heh soo much fun 🙂 Some people should know when to give up.
">>> right now I have no keylogger installed!"
>> You hope.
>I know!"
You don't follow the news do you? Transparents FBI keyloggers has been a huge thing in the news and on /. recently.
Oh yeah and Bin Laden is hidden under your bed!
">>> My P4 can pump out 18mb/s good enough for fast ethernet! "
>> And? It still has to be decrypted for you to view/use it.
> Where is the problem my server is 99% idle all the time "
1) If it's 99% idle then it obviously isn't serving anything and I re-iterate my point that your box with lots of storage is <U>not</U> a server.
Its a fileSERVER and SERVES me files (btw its doing some other stuff too)
IDLE 231H
SYSTEM 12H (which is pretty much)
2) If the data is decrypted it is insecure.
All data is insecure when you work with it or do you have a black screen and a keyboar without keys (hey Bin Laden is looking at you now)
">>> the point is all the data is encrypted all the time!"
>> If all your data was encrypted all the time you'd never be able to do anything. The data may be stored on your HD encrypted but it has to be decypted for use and display. And it may be encrypted for transmition but can still be intercepted, decrypted, and tampered with.
> But in the end its encrypted again!"
See #2 above.
See my #2 too
"Did I said I am using 56-DES? BTW DES is not supportet anymore for BC! only for old stuff!"
No you didn't say you were using DES nor did you say you weren't. And it is supported check their FAQ for the latest version.
The point is: 1) Simply having a fast system with alot of storage does not make it a server.
OK I have
- lots of storage
- much ram
- working 24h
- always connected to the net
- exchange 2k
- sql 2k
- iis
- w2ks
- central printers (network)
- fast cpu
- proxy,socks,encryption
- backup
- mass mailer
- fax server
hmm
can you explain me what IS a server??????????????????????????????
2) Encrypting data only makes it secure during storage not during use or transmission.
see my #2
3) As long as the system is on and connected to anything (network wise) then it's vulnerable especially when it's idle 99% of the time.
Yes Bin Laden could bomb it
4) As long as the system is in a non-secure environment it is vulnerable to data theft both from storage and transmission, encrypted or not.
maybe you have the only existing single secure server of the world?
*CONFIRMED*
Thorin
">>> right now I have no keylogger installed!"
>> You hope.
>I know!"
You don't follow the news do you? Transparents FBI keyloggers has been a huge thing in the news and on /. recently.
Oh yeah and Bin Laden is hidden under your bed!
">>> My P4 can pump out 18mb/s good enough for fast ethernet! "
>> And? It still has to be decrypted for you to view/use it.
> Where is the problem my server is 99% idle all the time "
1) If it's 99% idle then it obviously isn't serving anything and I re-iterate my point that your box with lots of storage is <U>not</U> a server.
Its a fileSERVER and SERVES me files (btw its doing some other stuff too)
IDLE 231H
SYSTEM 12H (which is pretty much)
2) If the data is decrypted it is insecure.
All data is insecure when you work with it or do you have a black screen and a keyboar without keys (hey Bin Laden is looking at you now)
">>> the point is all the data is encrypted all the time!"
>> If all your data was encrypted all the time you'd never be able to do anything. The data may be stored on your HD encrypted but it has to be decypted for use and display. And it may be encrypted for transmition but can still be intercepted, decrypted, and tampered with.
> But in the end its encrypted again!"
See #2 above.
See my #2 too
"Did I said I am using 56-DES? BTW DES is not supportet anymore for BC! only for old stuff!"
No you didn't say you were using DES nor did you say you weren't. And it is supported check their FAQ for the latest version.
The point is: 1) Simply having a fast system with alot of storage does not make it a server.
OK I have
- lots of storage
- much ram
- working 24h
- always connected to the net
- exchange 2k
- sql 2k
- iis
- w2ks
- central printers (network)
- fast cpu
- proxy,socks,encryption
- backup
- mass mailer
- fax server
hmm
can you explain me what IS a server??????????????????????????????
2) Encrypting data only makes it secure during storage not during use or transmission.
see my #2
3) As long as the system is on and connected to anything (network wise) then it's vulnerable especially when it's idle 99% of the time.
Yes Bin Laden could bomb it
4) As long as the system is in a non-secure environment it is vulnerable to data theft both from storage and transmission, encrypted or not.
maybe you have the only existing single secure server of the world?
*CONFIRMED*
Thorin
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