I am going on a shopping spree and need help

devine952

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Hi all

Well I 'm considering buying a JVC DVP3U camcorder in the US for around $900 because it is cheaper than here in France. The only thing that has me worried is the slight differences I have noticed between the US version DVP3U and the French version DVP3. The first boasts 680K CCD and yet enables still pictures in XGA resolution (1024x756), has 16x9 function and enables x200 zoom (digital of course). Now the European version DVP3, has an 800K pixel CCD, but offers the identical resolution in terms of still pictures and video, but only enables x100 digital zoom. Both models have identical optical zoom x10.
Now on the JVC site they mention that U stands for USA and this is done so that a European product would not have a valid warranty outside Europe, and vice versa for the States.
But technically speaking, how come a 680K pixel CCD can produce the same results as an 800K CCD. Why don't they both have the same CCD if they are producing the same resolutions. When I multiply the resolution XGA I come up with 786K pixels, so how does the US version find the extra 100K pixels if it's CCD is only 680K? Another thing, why does the European model only have a x100 digital zoom if it has a better CCD? (is it because digital zoom is programmed and has nothing to do with the CCD?)
Well as you can see I have plenty of questions regarding the true differences of these so called different models. I am sceptic as to the true differences and see them as pure marketing or software differences. If this is the case, I will buy the DVP3U that is virtually $500 cheaper than it's European counterpart (mainly due to sales tax).

But I need your feedback to determine whether it's optical performances are the same and especially determine why they advertise two different CCDs.

Thanks for any help, even just a link to some forums specialised in Camcorders.

All the best
 

A2KLAU

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the only thing I can think of is that the screen sizes in itself are diff but the borders reamin the same.. so the extra screen bits are hidden by the plastic or metal border bit.. if you are following me.. You are talking about a Camcorder right.. small things.. DV Camcoder is what i am guessing you are talking about here.. the others didn't know what you were talking about I think.. but the JVC DV bit of the DVP is the hint guys ;)

Anyway the 2 screens are probably different sizes when they are not palced into the screen holding area bit thingy.. but when the larger one is placed in the border that holds it will hide the extra area if you see what I mean.. where as the other one doesn't hide it.. thus same pixels..

I am not 100% sure if I am even on the right lines.. but thats my guess..

Or failing that then i am out of ideas..

Hope whatever I typed up there makes sence and helps you..

Albert.
 

etech

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devine952

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thanks for your help etech. I have sorted out the difference, that I believe to be related to NTSC and PAL. I didn't expect it to matter with DV as I imagine that the different standard would only impact on the composite out, video out, but would not alter the digital output such as firewire.

In fact i found out that DV has a different standard according to NTSC and PAL. For NTSC it is 30 frames/sec for a resolution of 720x480 whereas PAL is 25 frames/sec for 720x520 resolution. So this seems to explain the difference in CCD used, ie only 680K pixels for NTSC and 800K for pal.

So now I am debating whether the saving of buying an NTSC one, with the risks of having problems with the warranty, is worth it especially in light of these discoveries.