I am beginning to hate MP3's

[EyeMWing]

320 or bust.

It's a total ass to get some of the bands that I like in the US, though.

 

[DaveSimmons]

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1
im just comparing my P.F. echoes cd to the ones ive downloaded and the downloaded 192Kbps sound like shit. specifically on Shine On you Crazy Diamond. the difference in terms of guitars and the chimes and cymbals is night and day.

Warez MP3s include tracks where idiots have taken 64 - 128 kbps MP3 tracks then converted them to higher bitrates, thinking it will sound better. It's got more bits now, right? :roll:

If you care about sound quality, you need to buy CDs and rip them yourself, preferably to lossless FLAC.

 

[AMDZen]

I use VBR LAME eNC versus CBR. Set lowest at 160 and highest at 320. Most of the music I listen to comes out about the same size or a bit smaller then a 192 kbps file would be, and it sounds almost identical to CD quality. And I DO have an awesome setup. Maybe you just use a crappy Encoder? Or your not using VBR, or both.

 

[EyeMWing]

Originally posted by: AMDZen
I use VBR LAME eNC versus CBR. Set lowest at 160 and highest at 320. Most of the music I listen to comes out about the same size or a bit smaller then a 192 kbps file would be, and it sounds almost identical to CD quality. And I DO have an awesome setup. Maybe you just use a crappy Encoder? Or your not using VBR, or both.

Sorry dude, I like my silence hi-fi. The entire song is equally important and deserves the same attention. VBR is crap. CBR320 or lossless.

 

[ThisIsMatt]

Originally posted by: EyeMWing

Originally posted by: AMDZen
I use VBR LAME eNC versus CBR. Set lowest at 160 and highest at 320. Most of the music I listen to comes out about the same size or a bit smaller then a 192 kbps file would be, and it sounds almost identical to CD quality. And I DO have an awesome setup. Maybe you just use a crappy Encoder? Or your not using VBR, or both.

Sorry dude, I like my silence hi-fi. The entire song is equally important and deserves the same attention. VBR is crap. CBR320 or lossless.

You're a dumbass.

 

[UncleWai]

I like to use monkeyaudio compression.
Just buy used cds in Ebay, they are hella cheap.

 

Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt

Originally posted by: EyeMWing

Originally posted by: AMDZen
I use VBR LAME eNC versus CBR. Set lowest at 160 and highest at 320. Most of the music I listen to comes out about the same size or a bit smaller then a 192 kbps file would be, and it sounds almost identical to CD quality. And I DO have an awesome setup. Maybe you just use a crappy Encoder? Or your not using VBR, or both.

Sorry dude, I like my silence hi-fi. The entire song is equally important and deserves the same attention. VBR is crap. CBR320 or lossless.

You're a dumbass.

lol

 

[0roo0roo]

have a friend conduct a blind A B test. see if it is just in your head. if you really care about sound and the truth you will do this.

 

[Bootprint]

I'm with you, long with (Buffering... Buffering...) you all the way, long live Real Audio.

 

[shortylickens]

Originally posted by: MustISO
Higher bitrate = :thumbsup:

If you're complaining because the songs you download are 192K then too bad. Go buy the CD.

Yep. When you actually own it, you can rip the music at any quality you like.
For reference, I find CDex to be one of the easier and faster programs available.
My whole CD collection is at 320Kb. I can hear a difference too.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1
im just comparing my P.F. echoes cd to the ones ive downloaded and the downloaded 192Kbps sound like shit. specifically on Shine On you Crazy Diamond. the difference in terms of guitars and the chimes and cymbals is night and day.

MIKE

You're bitching about the quality of downloaded mp3's? :roll:


Properly encoded, it is virtually impossible to tell the difference between mp3 and the original CD even on the best equipment. Most people just imagine a difference. Like 0roo0roo said, do a blind test -- the results might surprise you.

 

[Electric Amish]

I encode mine at 192 with CDex and I can't tell any difference from CD... and I think that anyone who *thinks* they can tell the difference is crazy.

 

[MetalMat]

I have way too many mp3s to change over.

 

[0roo0roo]

oh and on the net..sometimes there are cr@p rips. probably released by the riaa. but these are so obviously not normal..even the worst mp3 encoder wouldn't do that. its like they recorded off a low bit rate streaming audio site.

 

[MetalMat]

Originally posted by: Electric Amish
I encode mine at 192 with CDex and I can't tell any difference from CD... and I think that anyone who *thinks* they can tell the difference is crazy.

I can always tell a difference in the drums if it is below 264, but I live with it.

 

[ed21x]

Originally posted by: Gurck
ogg vorbis ftw

:thumbsup: however you're not getting much space saving, but definitely the best out there if you have an iRiver

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: MetalMat

Originally posted by: Electric Amish
I encode mine at 192 with CDex and I can't tell any difference from CD... and I think that anyone who *thinks* they can tell the difference is crazy.

I can always tell a difference in the drums if it is below 264, but I live with it.

How can you enjoy the music if you're listening hard enough to hear a minute difference in one instrument?

Not trying to criticize, I just don't get people and music sometimes.

 

[piroroadkill]

NO NO NO!

Do not start on the MP3 hating, I had this crisis about 10 or so months ago and it was hell, one minute I hated MP3s and wanted everything lossless and the next I was okay with them. This was around the time I had an ID3V1 and V2 tagging crisis too. I'm fu cked up regarding this stuff.

I finally calmed myself and decided -preset standard LAME MP3s are just fine and that I need lose no sleep.

I suggest you do the same. Or -alt-preset standard as everyone seems to use (what's the difference again?).

 

[rh71]

I played FLAC files on the same setup I played mp3s. Hardly a difference.

 

[EyeMWing]

Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt

Originally posted by: EyeMWing

Originally posted by: AMDZen
I use VBR LAME eNC versus CBR. Set lowest at 160 and highest at 320. Most of the music I listen to comes out about the same size or a bit smaller then a 192 kbps file would be, and it sounds almost identical to CD quality. And I DO have an awesome setup. Maybe you just use a crappy Encoder? Or your not using VBR, or both.

Sorry dude, I like my silence hi-fi. The entire song is equally important and deserves the same attention. VBR is crap. CBR320 or lossless.

You're a dumbass.

No, I just have way too much disk space to justify

 

[alm99]

FLAC?

I currently use LAME and EAC? What is FLAC?

 

[JetBlack69]

Originally posted by: alm99
FLAC?

I currently use LAME and EAC? What is FLAC?

Free Lossless Audio Codec.

 

[CombatChuk]

AAC?

 

[AnyMal]

Can't say that I care

 

[Gurck]

Originally posted by: ed21x

Originally posted by: Gurck
ogg vorbis ftw

:thumbsup: however you're not getting much space saving, but definitely the best out there if you have an iRiver

Ogg is similar to mp3 in that it's a lossy format you can encode to in varying bitrates, but it's newer and sounds better at a given bitrate. You might be thinking of flac (Free Lossless Audio Codec), which is a lossless format that saves some (but not much) space.

Originally posted by: CombatChuk
AAC?

Problem with aac is it enjoys virtually no support outside of apple products & software.

Originally posted by: alm99
FLAC?

I currently use LAME and EAC? What is FLAC?

See my first answer.