I am appalled that China has 1.3B pop vs US at 300M.

[ichy]

The population control movement is elitist and coercive, with
more than a hint of racism and misogyny, and seeks to use sophisticated methods of social control to tell Third World parents what
they can and can’t do.

It's pretty obvious to me that the Third World SHOULD be told what to do.

 

[StrangerGuy]

Yeah, a lot of people will accuse me of being a racist for saying this but we have all the wrong people making kids in this country. Illegals, ghetto teenage babymommas and white trash meth addicts are breeding like rats, all while our welfare system encourages to keep doing it.

Word. It's not just the US, it's just about anywhere in the world, first world or third. People who already has trouble supporting themselves are popping out babies like no tomorrow. It is totally unfair to these children since they didn't asked to be here, and most of them will suffer the same shitty conditions that their parents are in only to propagate the vicious cycle again.

But this is going to be the same old elephant in the room that never will be solved.

 

[gophins72]

I still think that part of the world will be the next powder keg and go to war with itself, thereby lowering the populations and solving the "crisis"

 

[bignateyk]

Word. It's not just the US, it's just about anywhere in the world, first world or third. People who already has trouble supporting themselves are popping out babies like no tomorrow. It is totally unfair to these children since they didn't asked to be here, and most of them will suffer the same shitty conditions that their parents are in only to propagate the vicious cycle again.

But this is going to be the same old elephant in the room that never will be solved.

The worst part of it is that people like my wife and I who want kids, but don't want to add to the population, so we want to adopt instead. But it's so god-damn expensive it's absurd. We could give those kids the life they deserve, but why the hell would I pay $30K to adopt a kid when I can pop one out for free?

It's such a scam. We need to cut these people off welfare and prevent anyone from making money on adoptions.

 

[bononos]

what does the govt have to do with storing food
food storage is normally done by private companies, like how Walmart distribution centers store stuff or monsanto stores hfcs before it goes to food factories

are you sure the govt in those countries is the main entity that stores food??

Why should Bangladeshi private companies store food when they can sell it for more money to countries which can afford to pay more food to be milled into dogfood and fishfood at Walmart. Why on earth should govts get involved in ensuring things like food security?

 

[FoBoT]

It's pretty obvious to me that the Third World SHOULD be told what to do.

lucky for them someone is as smart as you are

 

[FoBoT]

The rights of the individual trump every other concern.

i understand my point of view is not held by many. the vast majority are ok with Totalitarian, Authoritarian governments. most people are Statists and are willing and prefer to be told what to do, i get it

doesn't mean i can't express my opinion

 

[PingSpike]

Ah yes, the ol' individualistic argument, let everyone do what they want, consequences be damned no matter what. The rights of the individual trump every other concern. The simple fact is that the world can't sustain your standard of living for all 6 billion people. So either you need to find some way to make magical free energy, you need to lower your standard of living to that of the 2nd world (if you're lucky), or they* need to stop having babies.

You can pick only one of those 3. There are no other options. Calling people names does not change the options. Which do you pick, Fobot?

*they means everyone, black white brown yellow or ugly.

No other options? You are being myopic. How about a lottery to determine who gets to live past 50, and they are gassed if they lose. It lowers the population greatly and it targets the fastest growing and most burdensome segment rather then destroying the next generation supply of able bodied workers. After all, all the first world countries are always complaining that they don't have enough young people to support their elderly population.

 

[Triumph]

No other options? You are being myopic. How about a lottery to determine who gets to live past 50, and they are gassed if they lose. It lowers the population greatly and it targets the fastest growing and most burdensome segment rather then destroying the next generation supply of able bodied workers. After all, all the first world countries are always complaining that they don't have enough young people to support their elderly population.

Although I'm not supporting it, that is an option as well, but I would say that it falls into the larger category of simply "population control", which would also include contraceptives.

i understand my point of view is not held by many. the vast majority are ok with Totalitarian, Authoritarian governments. most people are Statists and are willing and prefer to be told what to do, i get it

doesn't mean i can't express my opinion

You're not really saying anything of any real worth, and posting tawdry images of tired internet discussion forum memes that don't even apply to the discussion at hand really doesn't help your argument.

Propose a solution to the problem Fobot.

 

[CPA]

CE? how politically correct stupid are we? I know it's been around for a while, but geez louise do we have to PC for every damn thing known to man?

 

[preslove]

i understand my point of view is not held by many. the vast majority are ok with Totalitarian, Authoritarian governments. most people are Statists and are willing and prefer to be told what to do, i get it

doesn't mean i can't express my opinion

Except your opinion is just an ignorant fantasy. Improving access to family planning, education and reproductive rights to women are the most effective methods to curb birthrates in the third world. Yeah, those are all racist, evil, totalitarian things

Giving women in the third world condoms makes you a misogynist?

Your posts in this thread are the stupidest, most ignorant posts I've ever seen here by a mod. Do you regularly moderate P&N? Most mods come off as pretty intelligent. You, however, do not.

 

[busydude]

the vast majority are ok with Totalitarian, Authoritarian governments. most people are Statists and are willing and prefer to be told what to do, i get it doesn't mean i can't express my opinion

How can you be so sure about most people being Ok with Authoritarian govts?

 

[preslove]

How can you be so sure about most people being Ok with Authoritarian govts?

Wingnuts like fobot like to throw big words around to try to convince themselves and others that they know what they're talking about. They usually have a very limited grasp of the definitions of about half of them, and no fucking clue about the rest. It's why you'll hear these idiots call Obama a fascist and a communist in the same sentence.

 

[TheNinja]

If you can have 12 kids and pay for them all then have as many as you want. If you have 1 kid and expect the government to pay for everything, then don't have that 1.