I am a tenant in an apartment that had no running water for one month...

MrsBugi

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A water main broke underneath my apartment complex (4 units, privately owned by an individual) while I was gone on a trip. There was no running water in the apartment during the 10 days I was gone and 15 days after I returned. I had to stay with a girlfriend during the last 15 days without running water. I spoke with the manager numerous times throughout the ordeal and he was rude, angry (that he had to pay $15k to fix the damages to pass a health inspection), and refused to give me any credit or reimbursement during the days I had no hot water.

The manager gave my neighbors a $600 credit towards their rent (they were at home the whole time there was no water, 25 days, and had to go to the gym or friends' houses to shower). He told them not to tell me, but of course they did since we struggled not having any water together. I suspect my manager is trying to take advantage of me since I am a single female. For what it's worth, he is an extremely rude older man in his 60's of middle eastern ethnicity. I am a 27-year-old female.

Two questions:

1. Am I legally entitled to some sort of reimbursement or rent credit since I did not have water for 25 days?

2. If so, am I only entitled to the rent credit the days I actually lived (rather, couldn't live) in the apartment (15 days) or to the entire amount of time there was no water in the apartment (25 days)?

I pay my rent in full every month, several days early. I would be happy to clarify any details necessary.

 

Eli

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The short answer is yes, absolutely.

At the very least, you need to be compensated for the 15 days you were terribly inconvenienced by not having any water.
 

nageov3t

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I would assume so, it's got to be illegal to have an apartment with no running water for a certain period of time, but you should really check with someone in the town or a lawyer.
 

zinfamous

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uhhhhhhh


YES

report his ass too for being such a prick. you can get your money back AND break your lease, if you wish, without any penalty after BS like this. If I were you, I'd get the compensation, break the lease, demand security deposit back, and get the eff out of there.
 

Captante

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You really need to speak with an attorney familar with your local laws to be certain, but my guess is you are entitled to compensation.
 

MrsBugi

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Originally posted by: zinfamous
uhhhhhhh


YES

report his ass too for being such a prick. you can get your money back AND break your lease, if you wish, without any penalty after BS like this. If I were you, I'd get the compensation, break the lease, demand security deposit back, and get the eff out of there.

Who would I report him to?

I'd hate to leave since I really love the location, plus it's a 1BD/1BA near the beach for only $950/month. Still, the manager is so rude and shady that it might not be worth future (and current) pains to stay.

According to 2 past tenants (who stopped by for mail after I moved in), the manager has refused to give anyone back their security deposits after they've moved out. In the end, several of the tenants took the manager to small claims court where they WON, but it was a long and stressful way to get their rightful security deposit back.

I am a good tenant - clean, quiet, responsible, and I follow all the rules to a tee. It's very upsetting that the manager is being so difficult and shady, I wish he would just be fair instead of a penny-pinching jerk. I would hate for it to escalate to a small claims court/lawyer/legal situation but if that's what I have to do, then I'll do it (sans lawyer, since I really don't have the money for one right now).
 

BoomerD

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Since you're a fellow Kahleeforneeyan, let me introduce you to the Kahleeforneeya Landlord-Tenant "guidebook."

http://www.dca.ca.gov/publicat...ndlordbook/index.shtml


http://www.dca.ca.gov/publicat...ordbook/problems.shtml
"Conditions that make a rental unit legally uninhabitable

There are many kinds of defects that could make a rental unit unlivable. The implied warranty of habitability requires landlords to maintain their rental units in a condition fit for the "occupation of human beings "123 In addition, the rental unit must "substantially comply" with building and housing code standards that materially affect tenants' health and safety.124

A rental unit may be considered uninhabitable (unlivable) if it contains a lead hazard that endangers the occupants or the public, or is a substandard building because, for example, a structural hazard, inadequate sanitation, or a nuisance endangers the health, life, safety, property, or welfare of the occupants or the public.125

A dwelling also may be considered uninhabitable (unlivable) if it substantially lacks any of the following:126

Effective waterproofing and weather protection of roof and exterior walls, including unbroken windows and doors.
Plumbing facilities in good working order, including hot and cold running water, connected to a sewage disposal system "


Who do you complain to?

http://www.dca.ca.gov/publicat...resolve-problems.shtml

"TALK WITH YOUR LANDLORD
Communication is the key to avoiding and resolving problems. If you have a problem with your rental unit, it's usually best to talk with your landlord before taking other action. Your landlord may be willing to correct the problem or to work out a solution. By the same token, the landlord (or the landlord's agent or manager) should discuss problems with the tenant before taking formal action. The tenant may be willing to correct the problem once he or she understands the landlord's concerns. Both parties should bear in mind that each has the duty to deal with the other fairly and in good faith (see Landlord's and tenant's duty of good faith and fair dealing).

If discussing the problem with the landlord doesn't solve it, and if the problem is the landlord's responsibility (see Dealing with Problems), you should write a letter or send an e-mail to the landlord. The letter or e-mail should describe the problem, its effect on you, how long the problem has existed, what you may have done to remedy the problem or limit its effect, and what you would like the landlord to do. You should keep a copy of this letter or e-mail.

If you have been dealing with an agent of the landlord, such as a property manager, you may want to directly contact the owner of the rental unit. The name, address and telephone number of the owner and the property manager, or the person who is authorized to receive legal notices for the owner, must be written in your rental agreement (or lease) or posted conspicuously in the building.301 You can also contact your County Assessor's Office for this information.

If you don't hear from the landlord after you send the letter or e-mail, or if the landlord disagrees with your complaint, you may need to use one of the tenant remedies that are discussed in this booklet (such as the repair and deduct remedy, see Having Repairs Made), or obtain legal assistance. The length of time that you should wait for the landlord to act depends on the seriousness of the problem. Normally, 30 days is considered appropriate unless the problem is extremely serious.

REMEMBER: The landlord and the tenant discussing problems with each other can prevent little problems from becoming big ones. Trying to work out problems benefits everybody. Sometimes, it's helpful to involve someone else, such as a mutual friend or a trained arbitrator or mediator (see below). If the problem truly cannot be resolved by discussion, negotiation, and acceptable compromise, then each party can look to the remedies provided by the law.

GETTING HELP FROM A THIRD PARTY
Many resources are available to help tenants and landlords resolve problems. Check which of the following agencies are available in your area, and call or write them for information or assistance:

Local consumer protection agency. See the City and County Government listings in the white pages of the phone book.
Local housing agency. See the City and County Government listings in the white pages of the phone book.
Local district attorney's office. See the County Government listings in the white pages of the phone book.
City or county rent control board. See the City and County Government listings in the white pages of the phone book.
Local tenant association, or rental housing or apartment association. Check the white (business) and yellow pages in the phone book.
Local dispute resolution program. To order a county-by-county list, see Appendix 4.
Local tenant information and assistance resources. See Appendix 3.
You may also obtain information from the California Department of Consumer Affairs' Consumer Information Center at 1-800-952-5210 (1-916-445-1254 for Sacramento area calls). For TDD, call 1-916-322-1700. You can also visit the Department of Consumer Affairs' Web site at www.dca.ca.gov.

Many county bar associations offer lawyer referral services and volunteer attorney programs which can help a tenant locate a low-fee or free attorney. Legal aid organizations may provide eviction defense service to low-income tenants. Some law schools offer free advice and assistance through landlord-tenant clinics.

Tenants should be cautious about using so-called eviction defense clinics or bankruptcy clinics. While some of these clinics may be legitimate and provide good service, others are not legitimate. Some of these clinics may use high-pressure sales tactics, make false promises, obtain your signature on blank forms, take your money, and then do nothing.

These clinics may promise to get a federal stay (also called an automatic stay)of an eviction action. This usually means that the clinic intends to file a bankruptcy petition for the tenant. (See "The Eviction Process, A word about bankruptcy".)While this may stop the eviction temporarily, it can have an extremely bad effect on the tenant's future ability to rent property or to obtain credit, since the bankruptcy will be part of the tenant's credit record for as long as 10 years.

"Unlawful detainer assistants" are non-lawyers who are in business to provide advice and assistance to landlords and tenants on unlawful detainer issues. Unlawful detainer assistants (UDAs) must be registered with the County Clerk's office in the counties where they have their principal place of business and where they do business.302 A tenant who signs a contract with a UDA can cancel the contract within 24 hours after signing it.303

"Legal document assistants" (LDAs) are non-lawyers who type and file legal documents as directed by people who are representing themselves in legal matters. Similar registration and contract cancellation requirements apply to legal document assistants. 304

The fact that a UDA or LDA is properly registered with the County Clerk does not guarantee that the UDA or LDA has the knowledge or ability to help you.

ARBITRATION AND MEDIATION
Some local housing agencies refer landlord-tenant disputes to a local dispute resolution center or mediation service. The goal of these services is to resolve disputes without the burden and expense of going to court.

Mediation involves assistance from an impartial third person, called a mediator, who helps the tenant and landlord reach a voluntary agreement on how to settle the dispute. The mediator normally does not make a binding decision in the case.

Arbitration involves referral of the dispute to an impartial third person, called an arbitrator, who decides the case. If the landlord and tenant agree to submit their dispute to arbitration, they will be bound by the decision of the arbitrator, unless they agree to nonbinding arbitration.

Tenants and landlords should always consider resolving their disputes by mediation or arbitration instead of a lawsuit. Mediation is almost always faster, cheaper, and less stressful than going to court. While arbitration is more formal than mediation, arbitration can be faster, and is usually less stressful and burdensome, than a court action.

Mediation services are listed in the yellow pages of the telephone book under Mediation Services. To obtain a county-by-county listing of dispute resolution services, see Appendix 4."

 

MrsBugi

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Originally posted by: BoomerD
Since you're a fellow Kahleeforneeyan, let me introduce you to the Kahleeforneeya Landlord-Tenant "guidebook."

http://www.dca.ca.gov/publicat...ndlordbook/index.shtml


http://www.dca.ca.gov/publicat...ordbook/problems.shtml
"Conditions that make a rental unit legally uninhabitable

There are many kinds of defects that could make a rental unit unlivable. The implied warranty of habitability requires landlords to maintain their rental units in a condition fit for the "occupation of human beings "123 In addition, the rental unit must "substantially comply" with building and housing code standards that materially affect tenants' health and safety.124

A rental unit may be considered uninhabitable (unlivable) if it contains a lead hazard that endangers the occupants or the public, or is a substandard building because, for example, a structural hazard, inadequate sanitation, or a nuisance endangers the health, life, safety, property, or welfare of the occupants or the public.125

A dwelling also may be considered uninhabitable (unlivable) if it substantially lacks any of the following:126

Effective waterproofing and weather protection of roof and exterior walls, including unbroken windows and doors.
Plumbing facilities in good working order, including hot and cold running water, connected to a sewage disposal system "


Who do you complain to?

http://www.dca.ca.gov/publicat...resolve-problems.shtml

"TALK WITH YOUR LANDLORD
Communication is the key to avoiding and resolving problems. If you have a problem with your rental unit, it's usually best to talk with your landlord before taking other action. Your landlord may be willing to correct the problem or to work out a solution. By the same token, the landlord (or the landlord's agent or manager) should discuss problems with the tenant before taking formal action. The tenant may be willing to correct the problem once he or she understands the landlord's concerns. Both parties should bear in mind that each has the duty to deal with the other fairly and in good faith (see Landlord's and tenant's duty of good faith and fair dealing).

If discussing the problem with the landlord doesn't solve it, and if the problem is the landlord's responsibility (see Dealing with Problems), you should write a letter or send an e-mail to the landlord. The letter or e-mail should describe the problem, its effect on you, how long the problem has existed, what you may have done to remedy the problem or limit its effect, and what you would like the landlord to do. You should keep a copy of this letter or e-mail.

If you have been dealing with an agent of the landlord, such as a property manager, you may want to directly contact the owner of the rental unit. The name, address and telephone number of the owner and the property manager, or the person who is authorized to receive legal notices for the owner, must be written in your rental agreement (or lease) or posted conspicuously in the building.301 You can also contact your County Assessor's Office for this information.

If you don't hear from the landlord after you send the letter or e-mail, or if the landlord disagrees with your complaint, you may need to use one of the tenant remedies that are discussed in this booklet (such as the repair and deduct remedy, see Having Repairs Made), or obtain legal assistance. The length of time that you should wait for the landlord to act depends on the seriousness of the problem. Normally, 30 days is considered appropriate unless the problem is extremely serious.

REMEMBER: The landlord and the tenant discussing problems with each other can prevent little problems from becoming big ones. Trying to work out problems benefits everybody. Sometimes, it's helpful to involve someone else, such as a mutual friend or a trained arbitrator or mediator (see below). If the problem truly cannot be resolved by discussion, negotiation, and acceptable compromise, then each party can look to the remedies provided by the law.

GETTING HELP FROM A THIRD PARTY
Many resources are available to help tenants and landlords resolve problems. Check which of the following agencies are available in your area, and call or write them for information or assistance:

Local consumer protection agency. See the City and County Government listings in the white pages of the phone book.
Local housing agency. See the City and County Government listings in the white pages of the phone book.
Local district attorney's office. See the County Government listings in the white pages of the phone book.
City or county rent control board. See the City and County Government listings in the white pages of the phone book.
Local tenant association, or rental housing or apartment association. Check the white (business) and yellow pages in the phone book.
Local dispute resolution program. To order a county-by-county list, see Appendix 4.
Local tenant information and assistance resources. See Appendix 3.
You may also obtain information from the California Department of Consumer Affairs' Consumer Information Center at 1-800-952-5210 (1-916-445-1254 for Sacramento area calls). For TDD, call 1-916-322-1700. You can also visit the Department of Consumer Affairs' Web site at www.dca.ca.gov.

Many county bar associations offer lawyer referral services and volunteer attorney programs which can help a tenant locate a low-fee or free attorney. Legal aid organizations may provide eviction defense service to low-income tenants. Some law schools offer free advice and assistance through landlord-tenant clinics.

Tenants should be cautious about using so-called eviction defense clinics or bankruptcy clinics. While some of these clinics may be legitimate and provide good service, others are not legitimate. Some of these clinics may use high-pressure sales tactics, make false promises, obtain your signature on blank forms, take your money, and then do nothing.

These clinics may promise to get a federal stay (also called an automatic stay)of an eviction action. This usually means that the clinic intends to file a bankruptcy petition for the tenant. (See "The Eviction Process, A word about bankruptcy".)While this may stop the eviction temporarily, it can have an extremely bad effect on the tenant's future ability to rent property or to obtain credit, since the bankruptcy will be part of the tenant's credit record for as long as 10 years.

"Unlawful detainer assistants" are non-lawyers who are in business to provide advice and assistance to landlords and tenants on unlawful detainer issues. Unlawful detainer assistants (UDAs) must be registered with the County Clerk's office in the counties where they have their principal place of business and where they do business.302 A tenant who signs a contract with a UDA can cancel the contract within 24 hours after signing it.303

"Legal document assistants" (LDAs) are non-lawyers who type and file legal documents as directed by people who are representing themselves in legal matters. Similar registration and contract cancellation requirements apply to legal document assistants. 304

The fact that a UDA or LDA is properly registered with the County Clerk does not guarantee that the UDA or LDA has the knowledge or ability to help you.

ARBITRATION AND MEDIATION
Some local housing agencies refer landlord-tenant disputes to a local dispute resolution center or mediation service. The goal of these services is to resolve disputes without the burden and expense of going to court.

Mediation involves assistance from an impartial third person, called a mediator, who helps the tenant and landlord reach a voluntary agreement on how to settle the dispute. The mediator normally does not make a binding decision in the case.

Arbitration involves referral of the dispute to an impartial third person, called an arbitrator, who decides the case. If the landlord and tenant agree to submit their dispute to arbitration, they will be bound by the decision of the arbitrator, unless they agree to nonbinding arbitration.

Tenants and landlords should always consider resolving their disputes by mediation or arbitration instead of a lawsuit. Mediation is almost always faster, cheaper, and less stressful than going to court. While arbitration is more formal than mediation, arbitration can be faster, and is usually less stressful and burdensome, than a court action.

Mediation services are listed in the yellow pages of the telephone book under Mediation Services. To obtain a county-by-county listing of dispute resolution services, see Appendix 4."

You have my heartfelt thanks, BoomerD. This was incredibly helpful information, I really appreciate it and will begin writing a letter to the landlord now. I really hope that we can resolve the issue by talking it out instead of a lawsuit, I'm certainly open to negotiating a fair compromise but have a feeling my manager is going to be significantly more difficult.

I'm going to print this out and include it in the letter I send to him. Thank you again. :thumbsup:
 

arkcom

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It sounds to me like he is not at fault for the water being shut off. You should probably ask the water company to reimburse you for rent.
edit:
After rereading the op, I don't think you're talking about a water main (before the meter). But actually the line after the meter, in which case, yes the landlord is responsible for.
 
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Originally posted by: arkcom
It sounds to me like he is not at fault for the water being shut off. You should probably ask the water company to reimburse you for rent.

Landlord is liable when it comes to tenants. What transpires between landlord and water company isn't the OP's problem/fault.
 

ChaoZ

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You can get it fixed yourself and deduct the expenses from the next rent. Or so that's what I just learned in law class.
 

arkcom

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Originally posted by: George P Burdell
Originally posted by: arkcom
It sounds to me like he is not at fault for the water being shut off. You should probably ask the water company to reimburse you for rent.

Landlord is liable when it comes to tenants. What transpires between landlord and water company isn't the OP's problem/fault.

See my edit above. If the tenant payed the water (and problem was before the meter) it would be between the tenant and water company.
 

Tweak155

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Originally posted by: George P Burdell
Originally posted by: arkcom
It sounds to me like he is not at fault for the water being shut off. You should probably ask the water company to reimburse you for rent.

Landlord is liable when it comes to tenants. What transpires between landlord and water company isn't the OP's problem/fault.

True dat.
 

MrsBugi

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Originally posted by: ChaoZ
You can get it fixed yourself and deduct the expenses from the next rent. Or so that's what I just learned in law class.

It's fixed now. Apparently the building is old and was violating some health/safety codes, so after the water main underneat the apartment complex broke, LA county sent in an inspector to make sure it was up to code. It is now, so I don't have to pay any money out-of-pocket to fix the problem (which I'm happy about, since it was over $15k!).

I read somewhere that one of the the only reasons a landlord can evict a tenant is if he/she doesn't pay rent on time. I'm afraid to take the initiative and just deduct 25 days of rent from my next rent payment since my manager will probably try and evict me... I just don't want to do anything illegal (my manager appears to have that position covered already!) and risk getting evicted or in legal trouble.
 

Dr. Detroit

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A landlord can not evict you but can choose to not renew your lease and give you a 60-day notice. Landlord law is different in each state with specific cities also having adional rules.

Call Project Sentinel with our questions. http://www.housing.org/ and they can provide you with an equivalency in LA area.


 

Delta6Echo

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Originally posted by: MrsBugi
A water main broke underneath my apartment complex (4 units, privately owned by an individual) while I was gone on a trip. There was no running water in the apartment during the 10 days I was gone and 15 days after I returned. I had to stay with a girlfriend during the last 15 days without running water. I spoke with the manager numerous times throughout the ordeal and he was rude, angry (that he had to pay $15k to fix the damages to pass a health inspection), and refused to give me any credit or reimbursement during the days I had no hot water.

The manager gave my neighbors a $600 credit towards their rent (they were at home the whole time there was no water, 25 days, and had to go to the gym or friends' houses to shower). He told them not to tell me, but of course they did since we struggled not having any water together. I suspect my manager is trying to take advantage of me since I am a single female. For what it's worth, he is an extremely rude older man in his 60's of middle eastern ethnicity. I am a 27-year-old female.

Two questions:

1. Am I legally entitled to some sort of reimbursement or rent credit since I did not have water for 25 days?

2. If so, am I only entitled to the rent credit the days I actually lived (rather, couldn't live) in the apartment (15 days) or to the entire amount of time there was no water in the apartment (25 days)?

I pay my rent in full every month, several days early. I would be happy to clarify any details necessary.

Wow. Is this a serious question? Use common sense.

Originally posted by: MrsBugi
Originally posted by: zinfamous
uhhhhhhh


YES

report his ass too for being such a prick. you can get your money back AND break your lease, if you wish, without any penalty after BS like this. If I were you, I'd get the compensation, break the lease, demand security deposit back, and get the eff out of there.

Who would I report him to?

I'd hate to leave since I really love the location, plus it's a 1BD/1BA near the beach for only $950/month. Still, the manager is so rude and shady that it might not be worth future (and current) pains to stay.

According to 2 past tenants (who stopped by for mail after I moved in), the manager has refused to give anyone back their security deposits after they've moved out. In the end, several of the tenants took the manager to small claims court where they WON, but it was a long and stressful way to get their rightful security deposit back.

I am a good tenant - clean, quiet, responsible, and I follow all the rules to a tee. It's very upsetting that the manager is being so difficult and shady, I wish he would just be fair instead of a penny-pinching jerk. I would hate for it to escalate to a small claims court/lawyer/legal situation but if that's what I have to do, then I'll do it (sans lawyer, since I really don't have the money for one right now).

Are you whining about small claims court? Maybe it's what you need to do. You can either sue the landlord in Small Claims Court or deal with not being compensated for the outage It's your choice.

Either way, if you knew this guy was a dick, and people had to take him to court to get their deposits back, why did you rent the apartment? Once again, you fail at common sense.

Take responsibility for your bad decisions. People here are trying to help you regardless.
 

AndrewR

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OP, write the demand letter to the landlord and await a formal response. Send the letter certified mail with return receipt requested (with signature confirmation). When you get the return receipt with his signature, keep it with a copy of the letter. You may need that later in court. Also, insist from now on that everything be in writing with this guy. If you have a phone conversation or an in-person conversation, tell him you're going to write down the context of the coversation and send him a copy. Start making a timeline of hte events including conversations, letters, and anything else pertinent. Unless he's stupid, which he might be considering his attitude, he'll understand that anything that comes up could come back to haunt him in court.

Notwithstanding what I wrote below, small claims court isn't that bad. This guy sounds like a penny pincher so it's doubtful that he'll hire an attorney (which is the reason I lost my case, see below). Also, the suggestion of contacting state/local agencies is a very good one because they might resolve the issue for you.

Good luck to you. I am very tired of renting and am very much looking forward to buying a house some time this year. I think I've had one good landlord, and that was in Japan. :)

Originally posted by: Delta6Echo
Originally posted by: MrsBugi
A water main broke underneath my apartment complex (4 units, privately owned by an individual) while I was gone on a trip. There was no running water in the apartment during the 10 days I was gone and 15 days after I returned. I had to stay with a girlfriend during the last 15 days without running water. I spoke with the manager numerous times throughout the ordeal and he was rude, angry (that he had to pay $15k to fix the damages to pass a health inspection), and refused to give me any credit or reimbursement during the days I had no hot water.

The manager gave my neighbors a $600 credit towards their rent (they were at home the whole time there was no water, 25 days, and had to go to the gym or friends' houses to shower). He told them not to tell me, but of course they did since we struggled not having any water together. I suspect my manager is trying to take advantage of me since I am a single female. For what it's worth, he is an extremely rude older man in his 60's of middle eastern ethnicity. I am a 27-year-old female.

Two questions:

1. Am I legally entitled to some sort of reimbursement or rent credit since I did not have water for 25 days?

2. If so, am I only entitled to the rent credit the days I actually lived (rather, couldn't live) in the apartment (15 days) or to the entire amount of time there was no water in the apartment (25 days)?

I pay my rent in full every month, several days early. I would be happy to clarify any details necessary.

Wow. Is this a serious question? Use common sense.

Are you whining about small claims court? Maybe it's what you need to do. You can either sue the landlord in Small Claims Court or deal with not being compensated for the outage It's your choice.

Either way, if you knew this guy was a dick, and people had to take him to court to get their deposits back, why did you rent the apartment? Once again, you fail at common sense.

Take responsibility for your bad decisions. People here are trying to help you regardless.

WTF is your problem? OP posted a serious question about a serious problem out of a simple lack of experience with landlord/tenant issues. I've had my share of LL problems before, even taking one to small claims court, and it's a considerable hassle regardless of the underlying issue. For the court case, I had to take time off work to file the claim, conduct some "discovery" by talking to LL's employees, research the law, then take more time off of work to attend the court hearing for a couple hours. It was worth it, even though I wasn't able to carry the claim, but it's certainly a pain. I also had the additional advantage of a law degree, experience working with several litigation attorneys, and a then-current position with a corporate legal department.

Regardless, your diatribe only shows your apparent lack of reading comprehension ability because she clearly states that she found out about the LL's history AFTER moving into the apartment. So, you fail at a common ability, reading the spoken word, and you also fail at common courtesy. Move along now, kiddie.
 

Injury

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Originally posted by: Delta6Echo
Are you whining about small claims court? Maybe it's what you need to do. You can either sue the landlord in Small Claims Court or deal with not being compensated for the outage It's your choice.

Either way, if you knew this guy was a dick, and people had to take him to court to get their deposits back, why did you rent the apartment? Once again, you fail at common sense.

Take responsibility for your bad decisions. People here are trying to help you regardless.

If you'd read the post correctly instead of trying to be an internet bad ass with a super-lame military sounding name that you probably use for counter-strike, you'd comprehend that she didn't find out how much of a jerk he was until AFTER she had moved in an talked to old tenants that stopped by to pick up mail that hadn't been forwarded.

Stop trying to be a dick. Stop trying to be an armchair lawyer. Someone has already posted some valuable advice showing that the best course of action isn't to jump right in to small claims court. If you weren't an idiot, you'd realize that small claims court can actually be expensive if you don't stand to recover much from it... after you include filing costs, possible lawyer fees, time you have to take off of work to deal with it, etc.

In short, STFU and take your trolling to another website.
 

AlienCraft

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Originally posted by: MrsBugi
Originally posted by: BoomerD
What state are you in?

I live in Calfiornia.
OH hell YES you got RIGHTS !!!!.
Problem is, you'll have to document damages. Since you incurred no monetary loss for lodging, you'll be hard pressed to get reimbursment for that.
Your best option is to withhold a pro rated portion of rent for the time you were out of the Apt with your next rent payment. Be sure to send an explanation with the rent.
Since this manager seems to like to keep money he's not entitled to, you do not have any "easy" options as far as negotiateing would be concerned.

Small claims court is the next option. And do it. The judges get tired of seeing the same landlords in front of them time and again.


< sued and won in Alameda Small Claims Court against a mutant human penis landlord creature.