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I always hear people going on about old muscle cars, but don't their newer counterparts..

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outperform them and in better comfort? Like take an old Camero vs a newer Camero, aren't the newer ones much faster?
 
You have to realize that there are thousands of very cheap modifications out there for old muscle cars...I mean, NO ONE drives a stock mustang it seems. While it's true that in recent years, modern cars have been faster (for the most part...there are exceptions like the Datsun Z), this was not always the case...What was it, the 80's? when Corvette was making a lousy 100 HP car? Power started getting ramped up more in the late 90's, but before then you'd be better with the 1960's versions.
 
A decent sports sedan today will run rings around most classic muscle cars in their stock form. But yeah, classic cars are about style as well as performance, and most you find today have been modified.
 
Many just love that prehistoryric type feel of driving something resembling a dinosaur that's really really angry and cant be found in today's quiet, gentle tech full cars.
 
Originally posted by: mayonnaise
Many just love that prehistoryic type feel of driving something resembling a dinosaur that's really really angry and cant be found in today's quiet, gentle tech full cars.
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Plus a classicc muscle car is much cooler than your run of the mill newer sports sedan.
 
Some of the old muscle cars weren't pansies either. Many of the big block V8 versions where monsters even by todays standards, especially if properly modded and excess weight removed.

And back in the day "modding" was much more common than today. Almost nobody that was a hot rodder would dare drive a stock muscle car. If you pulled up beside a Camaro or GTO at a red light you didn't even have to wonder if it was stock🙂 Back then traction bars, slicks, and open headers were everywhere.
 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: mayonnaise
Many just love that prehistoryic type feel of driving something resembling a dinosaur that's really really angry and cant be found in today's quiet, gentle tech full cars.
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Plus a classicc muscle car is much cooler than your run of the mill newer sports sedan.
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That's for sure...any idiot can run out and buy a brand-new car off of a lot, but by the time 40 years have passed since the last one was made, finding one in nice condition is unusual. I mean, the model T was a mass-production car like the Toyota Corolla is now, but since we don't see them anymore they are automatically cool and command a high price...
 
Originally posted by: michaels
outperform them and in better comfort? Like take an old Camero vs a newer Camero, aren't the newer ones much faster?
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When you buy muscle cars or classic cars - you're not buying them for the performance or the comfort. You're buying them because they're cool and they've got a style that really can't be put into anything made nowadays.

There is nothing like the sound of a big block with flowmasters rumbling on a 68 Camaro that brings a smile to a lot of faces.

Me personally? I'm trying to get a nice 67 with the hidden headlights. I'm hitting an auction on the 1st.
 
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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: mayonnaise
Many just love that prehistoryic type feel of driving something resembling a dinosaur that's really really angry and cant be found in today's quiet, gentle tech full cars.
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Plus a classicc muscle car is much cooler than your run of the mill newer sports sedan.
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That's for sure...any idiot can run out and buy a brand-new car off of a lot, but by the time 40 years have passed since the last one was made, finding one in nice condition is unusual. I mean, the model T was a mass-production car like the Toyota Corolla is now, but since we don't see them anymore they are automatically cool and command a high price...
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That doesn't mean those who own a newer sports sedan are idiots, it's that there really is no comparison between the two when it comes to class of cars. One is more of a statement or hobby while the other is just nice transportation
 
There's something about the throaty growl from 8 cylinders of Detriot Iron that brings a smile to my face.


Plus the styling was better for the most part IMO. Those classic muscle cars had character and you rarely see that anymore.
 
Originally posted by: MyStupidMouth
Originally posted by: michaels
outperform them and in better comfort? Like take an old Camero vs a newer Camero, aren't the newer ones much faster?
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idiot.
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He is not and idiot and he is not wrong. They handle better for the most part, are faster for the most part, and are definitley more comfortable. All that being said I still prefer the classic cars for my recreational vehicles because they have a character and attitude that no new car can approach. Plus, if you own the right ones they are one of the best investments there is if you bought them when they were cheap.
 
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
And let's talk about working on your own cars... would you rather do it on a newer one or one from the 60s?
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Well, mine should weigh at least two tons, come as stock with a turbo, have user-fitted tinted windows, definitely a mahoosive spoiler, and some ghetto wheels.


Yours? 😀
 
He is not and idiot and he is not wrong. They handle better for the most part, are faster for the most part, and are definitley more comfortable. All that being said I still prefer the classic cars for my recreational vehicles because they have a character and attitude that no new car can approach. Plus, if you own the right ones they are one of the best investments there is if you bought them when they were cheap.
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Can you work on my '65 Ford with me ? 🙂

 
Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy
Some of the old muscle cars weren't pansies either. Many of the big block V8 versions where monsters even by todays standards, especially if properly modded and excess weight removed.

And back in the day "modding" was much more common than today. Almost nobody that was a hot rodder would dare drive a stock muscle car. If you pulled up beside a Camaro or GTO at a red light you didn't even have to wonder if it was stock🙂 Back then traction bars, slicks, and open headers were everywhere.
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This is actually really important. From the factory, even the most evil 60s muscle cars were barely able to break 6 seconds 0-60. But the limiting factor usually wasn't power; it was traction. Those cars came from the factory with rotten bias-ply or wide oval tires that just couldn't put all that torque into the ground. But stick a pair of nice fat slicks on the back and you've got a whole different animal at the drag strip. And of course, with a set of socket wrenches and a little money you could always get more power.

Of course, the modern performance car will still absolutely destroy the old ones in handling, braking, comfort, reliability, etc. But there's nothing like the sound of a built 396, is there?
 
Originally posted by: phantom309
Of course, the modern performance car will still absolutely destroy the old ones in handling, braking, comfort, reliability, etc. But there's nothing like the sound of a built 396, is there?
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You can alway fix most of that stuff with a classic. Its a bit harder to make a new car as cool as a classic though. http://www.sn65.com/ This guy went a bit to the extreme but it is badass.
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Originally posted by: thedarkwolf
Originally posted by: phantom309
Of course, the modern performance car will still absolutely destroy the old ones in handling, braking, comfort, reliability, etc. But there's nothing like the sound of a built 396, is there?
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You can alway fix most of that stuff with a classic. Its a bit harder to make a new car as cool as a classic though. http://www.sn65.com/ This guy went a bit to the extreme but it is badass.
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That is awesome. I wonder what he has it registered as? A 65 mustang or a 2003 mustang? I would guess a 2003. That would really be messed up if a cop ran his tag.
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Depending on the year of the muscle car it could also cost you alot less to maintain and insure then a newer one. Like my 88 Firebird. The small 305 can be had rebuilt or used easily under $500. Alt for it $39.95 same for the starter. Hop up parts for my car are all over the place and because my car is not too old or too new thoes are cheap to get ahold of as well and in abundance.

My Ride And I dont think in anyway the ride is uncomfortable either. Infact I like my year because the newer ones suck. They have a smaller cabin. The engine compartment is super tight and half the engine is under the dash. So for me to work on a newer one it would be way out of the question due to higher parts prices and harder to work on my own. Granted a ram air TA would smoke mine but I like it because it is older and not to many of my year or older that are not rust buckets but this time.
 
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