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http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me...eadlines-california&ctrack=1&cset=true

Cosby Takes a Stand in Compton
The comedian urges residents at a community meeting to 'work toward something' in fixing the city's problems.

By Megan Garvey, Times Staff Writer


Bill Cosby didn't come to Compton High School on Wednesday night to sugarcoat reality.

He began with a story about both hope and tragedy.

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The city, he said, needs to honor Venus and Serena Williams ? the tennis superstars who rose from the public courts of Compton to the top of the world rankings.

"How difficult is it for Compton to have a parade so that parents can bring the children and hold them up and say: 'They're from here'?" he asked the hundreds of residents who came to talk about turning things around in their violence-plagued city.

"And then one of the sisters was shot and murdered," he said, referring to the 2003 killing of the Williamses' half-sister Yetunde Price. Cosby paused for the audience to complete his sentence.

"In Compton," they replied.

"And the verdict was mistrial ? in Compton," Cosby said. "Still no parade.

"Come on, Compton. You understand?" Cosby said to murmurs from the crowd.

"You're known for a lot of things, Compton ? not many of them good ones. Why don't you bring them out?"

Cosby's "Call Out" to Compton was one in a series of appearances that the actor and comedian has made in lower-income neighborhoods across the country.

The city has recorded 54 homicides this year, 11 more than all of last year. At least six more people have been killed within blocks of the city limits. The killings have come amid a steep uptick in shootings that have left about 200 people wounded.

By coming to Compton, Cosby journeyed to one of the birthplaces of the hip-hop slang and gangsta dress and lifestyle he has criticized. He caused controversy last year when he called some in the black community "knuckleheads" for what he sees as their disrespect of the legacy of the civil rights movement by embracing sloppy grammar and diction.

But in Compton on Wednesday, many speakers welcomed his criticism as an opportunity for the local African American community to take a hard look at itself.

How to turn things around has been the subject of town hall meetings and calls for citizen participation, particularly since local leaders have said the cash-strapped city has no new revenue to buy more services from the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department.

In recent months, with homicides mounting, city leaders have taken steps to improve morale and tackle underlying issues of gang life that fuel much of the local struggle with violence.

This month, a city-funded gang intervention program will open its doors, the first in some time.

On Saturday, hundreds of residents gathered for what politicians hope will be an annual Compton pride day, which included a celebrity softball game, food stands and information for job seekers. Cosby's appearance Wednesday night provided a stark look at the community's problems.

He and other speakers traced many of the problems back to the home ? calling on parents to take a firm hand, to participate each day in their child's education, to demand excellence, and to be role models for self-sufficiency. Acknowledging that many young black children are being raised by single mothers, several people called on black men to take on a fatherly role not only to their own children but to other children in the community.

But with the verve of an old-time revival leader, Cosby asked those gathered to focus on what they could change, to keep an eye toward "working toward something."

"People from Ethiopia, from Nigeria, who came from a piece of land with a goat want to come to America," he said, "We're already here."

The evening was divided into two sessions, one to provide grandparents and foster parents with strategies to help children make better decisions and a second for the wider community to talk about safety issues.

"People who say, 'I'm not going to flip some burgers. I'm going to sell some drugs, and if I get killed I get killed,' that's mind-boggling," Cosby said, "because we didn't come from giving up. We came from surviving."

Many who spoke recounted their own lives to illustrate for the young people in attendance that anyone can achieve goals. John Hill, chief of staff to county Supervisor Yvonne Brathwaite Burke, said he attended 22 grammar schools between first and third grade as the child of migrant parents before going into foster care. Early on, he said, he was determined to live a different life.

"I said to myself: 'If I have to do the homework when my daddy is drunk inside the house, I'll do it in the headlights of the car in the dirt,' " Hill said, getting a standing ovation.

Later in the evening, Vicky Lindsey, whose eldest son was shot and killed at a Compton High School football game a decade ago, called to the stage anyone in the audience who had lost a child to violence. Cosby, whose 27-year-old son Ennis was murdered in 1997 in Los Angeles, remained onstage.

Tina Norwood Jasper, her sweatshirt a makeshift memorial to her slain son, Biko Hasan, stood next to Lindsey. Hasan, 20, was shot and killed on Super Bowl Sunday as he stood outside a relative's house in Compton smoking a cigarette. Hasan's uncle, Jasper's brother, was shot nine times and a cousin was struck once. Both men lived.

Hasan was Jasper's only living child. An older daughter had lived only eight days.

"Two trips to the cemetery," she said. "That's tough."
 

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Well its good that somebody is bringing up the things that need to change. Lord knows a white person isn't able to criticize black society for its problems. The problems are always a result of anything but the choices the society makes.
 

misle

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Originally posted by: her209
I have more respect for Chris Rock.

Reason? Sure Chris makes jokes about the same problems, but I don't see him out there trying to make a difference.
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: her209
I have more respect for Chris Rock.

Why? What has Chris Rock ever done to earn your respect?

By his words and actions, Bill Cosby is a greater man than Chris Rock will ever be.
 

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Originally posted by: misle
Originally posted by: her209
I have more respect for Chris Rock.
Reason? Sure Chris makes jokes about the same problems, but I don't see him out there trying to make a difference.
Chris Rock's approach is not abrasive and won't turn away those who don't agree with his views. Sure, Chris Rock is a comedian, but his material is based in truth and insight.
 

GTaudiophile

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But people don't take Chris Rock seriously. He's a comedian. They laugh him off and go on with their lives.
 

Rage187

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Bill Cosby knows what it is like to fight for civil rights, Chris Rock knows squat. Hell, by his own admission he went to an all white school his parents sent him to.
 

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Originally posted by: drsafety
An important message that cannot be conveyed by a non-black person in today's society.


Sure it could, it's just that not many people try. I do think that if a white person had been standing there, saying something similar to what Bill Cosby was getting across, it would've been met with more hostility. But if the speaker was genuine, seemed to know his/her stuff, and was being supportively critical rather than condescending, a lot more people than you might think would have agreed and taken the point to heart.
 

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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
But people don't take Chris Rock seriously. He's a comedian. They laugh him off and go on with their lives.

Bill Cosby is also a comedian, he's just older than Chris Rock. In 30+ years Chris Rock will be taken seriously.



 

Rage187

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Originally posted by: aircooled
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
But people don't take Chris Rock seriously. He's a comedian. They laugh him off and go on with their lives.

Bill Cosby is also a comedian, he's just older than Chris Rock. In 30+ years Chris Rock will be taken seriously.


Chris Rock has alot to accomplish before he can even be on the same playing field as Cosby.
 

aircooled

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Originally posted by: Rage187
Originally posted by: aircooled
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
But people don't take Chris Rock seriously. He's a comedian. They laugh him off and go on with their lives.

Bill Cosby is also a comedian, he's just older than Chris Rock. In 30+ years Chris Rock will be taken seriously.


Chris Rock has alot to accomplish before he can even be on the same playing field as Cosby.


Cosby was way older than Rock when he got his prime time show. Chris is as popular (or more) than Cosby was at the same age. You gotta compare apples to apples...


 

her209

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Originally posted by: Rage187
Bill Cosby knows what it is like to fight for civil rights, Chris Rock knows squat. Hell, by his own admission he went to an all white school his parents sent him to.
Chris Rock is successful because of the choices made by his parents. What's wrong with that?
 

Rage187

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Originally posted by: aircooled
Originally posted by: Rage187
Originally posted by: aircooled
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
But people don't take Chris Rock seriously. He's a comedian. They laugh him off and go on with their lives.

Bill Cosby is also a comedian, he's just older than Chris Rock. In 30+ years Chris Rock will be taken seriously.





Chris Rock has alot to accomplish before he can even be on the same playing field as Cosby.


Cosby was way older than Rock when he got his prime time show. Chris is as popular (or more) than Cosby was at the same age. You gotta compare apples to apples...

you cant compare them then.

Bill Cosby grew up during the civil rights movement and participated.

Chris Rock is only riding the waves of change that Bill Cosby help start.


Apples to Oranges.
 

aircooled

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Originally posted by: Rage187
Originally posted by: aircooled
Originally posted by: Rage187
Originally posted by: aircooled
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
But people don't take Chris Rock seriously. He's a comedian. They laugh him off and go on with their lives.

Bill Cosby is also a comedian in his day, he's just older than Chris Rock. In 30+ years Chris Rock will (may) be taken seriously.





Chris Rock has alot to accomplish before he can even be on the same playing field as Cosby.


Cosby was way older than Rock when he got his prime time show. Chris is as popular (or more) than Cosby was at the same age. You gotta compare apples to apples...

you cant compare them then.

Bill Cosby grew up during the civil rights movement and participated.

Chris Rock is only riding the waves of change that Bill Cosby help start.


Apples to Oranges.

I see your point, I guess what I'm saying is that Cosby was a popular comedian as well as Rock is at the same age. Cosby is now an icon and we don't know what Rock will be when he is Cosby's age.

Apples to Apples