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I’m off the Trump Train

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Well, congrats, but damn, about time.
Although it sounds like you are not entirely off if you will vote for him if one of the top 3 Dems is nominated.

Sounds more... patriotism curious.
 
Bitek said:
Well, congrats, but damn, about time.
Although it sounds like you are not entirely off if you will vote for him if one of the top 3 Dems is nominated.

Sounds more... patriotism curious.
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You’re right I wouldn’t vote Trump even in that case. But I do find the shit Bernie's pushing to be the most dangerous thing facing this country.
 
UglyCasanova said:
Not sure what specifically you’re referring to but whatever the case I’ll defend the things that I agree with and won’t defend the things I disagree with. So many of you just mindlessly attack everything based on it being Trump (much the same way the right does towards Hillary or Barry). There’s no reason to go through life so hyperpartisan, having your own thoughts about things isn’t necessarily a bad thing.
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There we go. *BOTH SIDES*, youbetcha.
 
dawp said:
and trump isn't?
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It’s a fair point. I think the things Trump is doing erodes the presidency and our democracy in general. The things Bernie is pushing enslaves us and more-so our children to a massive amount of debt with the promise of Free. Both are poisonous to our country in different ways.
 
UglyCasanova said:
It’s a fair point. I think the things Trump is doing erodes the presidency and our democracy in general. The things Bernie is pushing enslaves us and more-so our children to a massive amount of debt with the promise of Free. Both are poisonous to our country in different ways.
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oh shut up. Bernie isnt going to enslave you with his wealth tax on the top .001%
 
UglyCasanova said:
It’s a fair point. I think the things Trump is doing erodes the presidency and our democracy in general. The things Bernie is pushing enslaves us and more-so our children to a massive amount of debt with the promise of Free. Both are poisonous to our country in different ways.
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(looks at the ballooning deficit after tax cut} really?
 
JSt0rm said:
He made this same thread 4 days ago and was defending trump by page 2. Dude is pathetic.
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ah yes, those were the days! We were so naive, so innocent. We once thought UC would post a mea culpa, so forth and so forth, but little did we know, he had a 12 hour plan for that! How little wee understood then, those tender, halcyon days of last week!

How young we were, how pure and untouched by sin...
 
JSt0rm said:
oh shut up. Bernie isnt going to enslave you with his wealth tax on the top .001%
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Nor is he going to pay for all of his promises with it either, you’re being lied to with the enticement of free. Something you want but don’t have to pay for, it’s a lie.
 
dawp said:
(looks at the ballooning deficit after tax cut} really?
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Find where I ever defended that. Ever. Spending needed to be slashed and the bills paid before we worry about tax cuts.

The difference between the tax cuts and the promises of free basically everything that Bernie pushes is an order of magnitude though
 
UglyCasanova said:
Find where I ever defended that. Ever. Spending needed to be slashed and the bills paid before we worry about tax cuts.

The difference between the tax cuts and the promises of free basically everything that Bernie pushes is an order of magnitude though
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I never said you supported it, just that if that isn't fixed, socialism will be the least of our worries and I don't mean by cutting social programs.
 
UglyCasanova said:
No it’s not, it’s the exact opposite in fact.
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I can feel your pain!! In reality everything Trump promised he actually did just the opposite@!!
Also I will give the benefit of the doubt that a lot of Trumpsters had no idea to what extremes Trump would go to in order to be sneaky and dishonest!
 
JSt0rm said:
oh really? What campaign promises of trumps did you agree with?
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Gutting DC

Edit: this seems like it’s turning into you trying to pry out a gotcha. Go for it if it makes you feel better. It makes these forums a boring place though, that’s all discussions on here have become
 
I can't give the OP credit for stuff rational people saw and came to understand well prior to the 2016 election. It took you 2.5 years to see he was a fraudster and was openly corrupt when you had ample evidence with say

1) Trump university
2) Banging pornstars and paying them off whilst his wife was pregnant with their child
3) His long history of being sued for breach of contract and for grifting contractors and people who work for him (including his own lawyer btw)
4) His multiple bankrupcies
5) His feckless appeal to the religious right despite not having a god fearing bone in his body
6) His refusal to reveal his taxes unlike every other candidate in recent history (likely because they would show he's not as rich as he claims and he owes money to people he doesn't want us to know about).

This was all known prior to his winning the election and just now you are saying "Gee he may actually be a corrupt con man and not worth voting for". Zero credit for you buddy. This was obvious stuff here that even children were picking up on.
 
UglyCasanova said:
Gutting DC

Edit: this seems like it’s turning into you trying to pry out a gotcha. Go for it if it makes you feel better. It makes these forums a boring place though, that’s all discussions on here have become
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bro you are a walking gotcha production machine. Thats no hard feat and not the point.
 
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