Hyundai Genesis got into fatal accident, none of airbag deployed

[LTC8K6]

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[sdifox]

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holly shit, I am pretty sure airbags are supposed to deploy in that instance.

 

[JulesMaximus]

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But, it was an offset crash, and the sensor is in the middle, and this is perfectly normal...other cars do it too you know!

 

[Zargon]

But, it was an offset crash, and the sensor is in the middle, and this is perfectly normal...other cars do it too you know!

those advanced crumple zones are just out of control :whiste:

 

[BabaBooey]

At Hyundai quality is not job 1

 

[Doppel]

It is too bad this didn't happen in America. News headlines, accusation wars, and in the end a hopefully better law created or specifications. At least some awareness.

Oh well, automobiles will never be perfectly safe, my condolences to the deceased's family.

If we go by recent history it would be others claiming their airbags didn't go off when they should have, sales will plummet, and then those of us who see through the FUD get a new Hyundai at a ridiculously low price, as many of us did a year back with a new Toyota.

Most of us think the airbags should have gone off here. 100% of us have no damn idea about the specifics of the accident (or aren't saying if we do). Trying to us a lay person's knowledge of airbags based on a few pics and a brief newspaper article absolutely do an injustice to the thoroughness required to properly analyze this situation. I am completely reserving judgement until I know more and recommend others do the same.

 

[EightySix Four]

If we go by recent history it would be others claiming their airbags didn't go off when they should have, sales will plummet, and then those of us who see through the FUD get a new Hyundai at a ridiculously low price, as many of us did a year back with a new Toyota.

Most of us think the airbags should have gone off here. 100% of us have no damn idea about the specifics of the accident (or aren't saying if we do). Trying to us a lay person's knowledge of airbags based on a few pics and a brief newspaper article absolutely do an injustice to the thoroughness required to properly analyze this situation. I am completely reserving judgement until I know more and recommend others do the same.

I agree, we see the damage but do not know exactly how this incident occured and will never have footage or anything else necessary to make legitimate claims about how useful air bags owuld have been. Airbags are very interesting in their set-up and are tuned specifically not to go off unless necessary and to cause as little injury as possible. In my recent wreck, despite the severe damage to both of our vehicles, neither sets of bags went off because while the initial impact was severe, there was a relatively large amount of time for the energy to disperse as my car was pushed through the intersection.

There's a possibility that the deceased driver had something else physically wrong, a clot forming in his body which was jarred loose by the accident, or some former head trauma which caused his unfortunate death, and that with any other passenger deploying the airbags would have caused injury for no reason.

While it is questionable and I'm sure there will be an investigation, we've seen on multiple occasions that starting witch hunts against auto manufacturers is not a good thing. We do not know enough about each individual circumstance and people's memories are not good enough to trust in these situations. Especially after a wreck when you are shaken up.

 

[thescreensavers]

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Didn't they say, that was a pre production model which did not have airbags?

 

[KDKPSJ]

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I remember that one as well! It even only had temporary plate at that time.

Didn't they say, that was a pre production model which did not have airbags?

No, it was a production model. IIRC, what Hyundai said about the accident was that it was solely the driver's fault because the driver fell asleep. Does it have anything to do with the airbag not deploying? BS if you ask me.

 

[Doppel]

That second accident pic the impact was obviously about right on 45 degrees, which is beyond their 30 degrees, but I'm just talking as a lay person.

There are standards for airbags and their deployment. A manufacturer cannot put a whistle and a party balloon in and say it has airbags.

A couple of pictures here are like us looking at pics of a Prius half way down an elevator shaft like I saw last week with a middle aged woman swearing until she's blue in the face that she hit the brakes and us concluding there is a problem with the car.

 

[Rifter]

not the first time, ive seen many cars much more damaged than that with no airbags deployed. I've seen a car literally cut into 2 pieces and the airbags didnt deploy.

 

[CRXican]

My Miata got hit in the side and both front airbags went off, guess they aren't as smart

 

[kornphlake]

I really don't trust any device with my life rather it's the safety on a firearm, a guard on a chainsaw or an airbag. Any accident can be a potential tragedy, people die in fluke accidents from time to time, fender benders turn fatal, slipping in the shower, top athletes have had heart attacks in the gym, etc. It's not the government's responsibility to protect us from any and every possible danger and it's certainly not the responsibility of an auto manufacturer to perceive every possible danger and implement fail proof protection, cars would cost eleventy-billion dollars if they tried, and people would still die in accidents. Life isn't easy, bad things happen, every one will die. The notion that an air bag should save a life because you paid for it is somewhat ridiculous, you can't pay Karma, or God or the Grim Reaper or whatever you may believe in, even if you could you certainly wouldn't submit the payment to a car dealership.

Death is the tragedy, the deployment of an airbag is irrelevant.

 

[KeithP]

Wait, a car with electronic stability control, traction control and anti-lock brakes fishtails in the rain and everyone is talking about airbags not deploying even though we have no evidence that deployment would have saved the driver?

Can ESC on this car be turned off by the driver? If it can't, it seems to me the bigger failure here is that the car got sideways in the first place or that the driver is just an idiot.

-KeithP

 

[sdifox]

Wait, a car with electronic stability control, traction control and anti-lock brakes fishtails in the rain and everyone is talking about airbags not deploying even though we have no evidence that deployment would have saved the driver?

Can ESC on this car be turned off by the driver? If it can't, it seems to me the bigger failure here is that the car got sideways in the first place or that the driver is just an idiot.

-KeithP

I am assuming operator error caused the accident. Why the airbag didn't deploy is the part that is unexpected thus warrant further study. There will always be idiot drivers.