Hyundai Genesis Coupe

zCypher

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Tried out a 2010 Genesis Coupe with the 3.8 today, I expected the interior to be pretty cheapo and it did feel a bit cheap, but was still pretty nice. I liked the feel of the 6 speed and the shifter was exactly at the right place with my arm on the arm rest, the nice short throws were just about perfect and it shifted very smoothly. I didn't struggle to "find" the gears at all, even though I'm really not used to this type of car (been driving an aveo for 4 years). Clutch feel was a little weird, stiffness of the pedal was not too bad but it was hard to tell where it was catching, stalled a couple times.

Throttle response was really nice and the 3.8L V6 had a nice sound (but surprisingly quiet). The low end power was very nice, did not have to push it much to accelerate pretty quickly. Has quite a bit of punch between 2000-3000rpm (in every gear).

The ride was smooth, not too stiff, stiff enough to be fun and sporty, not mushy enough to limit the fun factor. Steering wheel feels not bad, slightly cheap but I could live with it. Actual steering response felt nimble, accurate. Driving it felt surprisingly easy, confidence inspiring (easy for me to say this coming from my current ride hehe).

They are asking $20k right now, I did search and couldn't find a better deal on a 2010 with 27k km. This one was the icey blue color, not really a fan. Really like the black and grey ones.

Insurance comes in at $1700 for one-side with fire/theft/vandalism and $2700 for full 2way coverage (almost exactly the same as it would cost to insure a 2008 WRX for me).

2013 models are coming in, the 3.8L gets direct injection and 350HP (as opposed to 305 or whatever the current one is). The 2013 2.0T gets bumped to 270+ HP as opposed to 210HP.

I liked it a lot. Looking forward to revisiting the idea when I have the cash.
 

Fenixgoon

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i have a 2010 2.0T. loved the car when i got it, love it even more now that it has a couple of mods :D

definitely check out the 2013 models for the updated engines.
 

smackababy

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Personally, I'd wait and see what the new 2.0T models feel like. I have high hopes for that one. I don't like the front end of the 2013s as much as the current style, but I could live with that.
 

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Yes wait for 2013 ones since they'll run closer to your price range and it'll be a nice increase in power.
 

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i have a 2010 2.0T. loved the car when i got it, love it even more now that it has a couple of mods :D

definitely check out the 2013 models for the updated engines.
What have you done to it and what improvements have you seen?
 

Fenixgoon

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What have you done to it and what improvements have you seen?

i have a Power Axel tune by Beyond Redline (Stage 1 tune basically). this cranks up the boost and makes the engine incredibly more responsive. stock, the car falls flat after 4500rpm maybe - you keep accelerating, but it doesnt feel like much. with the tune, it pulls way way harder. the only downside to the tune is that the car likes to jump out sometimes, so you have to be extra careful with the throttle. personally, though, i don't mind sacrificing throttle smoothness for vastly increased power and torque.

i also put on a Stance GR+ Super Sport suspension kit. it definitely has a harder ride (which i still need to do so tuning on), but it also improves the car's ability to do things like autocross :)

i also put on a Morimoto HID kit from thetrofitsource.com - worth every damn penny. incredibly well built.
 

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I was going to say that buying used would reduce the powertrain warranty from 10yr/100Kmile to 5yr/60Kmile, but I guess you're in Canada(?). Looks like Canadians just get a 5yr/100K km powertrain warranty, not a 10yr/160K km warranty like in the US.

Why don't people on the metric system list warranties as 5 year /100Mm (megameters!) :)
 
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zCypher

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Well the one I was looking at they were giving 1 extra year/20k km on the warranty, and the car had only 27k km on it, so it's almost like buying a new one.

Right now I'm looking at a few pretty different cars, 2004 G35 and 2004-2005 CTS-V. The G35 is very close to the 2010 3.8 Genesis in performance (maybe a bit less performance but very close), interior is a hell of a lot nicer in the G35. The CTS-V just looks like insane performance per dollar, and I've found them from $15k-$20k.

Making up my mind is proving more difficult than anticipated.
 

michal1980

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Damn, the 2013 3.8L pushes nearly 350 horses? I wanna test drive that...


I just test drove the 2013 3.8 Track- but it was an 8 speed auto. Not bad, but I didn't like the v6 engine sound for most of the range. Nice and quite below 2500rpm, annoying until like 5500 rpm, then sounded ok.

Steering has bmw weight, but almost felt like there was a split second delay, and while heavy, didn't seem like it would really communicate what was going on. IE heavy to make you think you are steering.

Outside the engine sound, the inside of some Hyundais to me is too much of a mismatch of quality.

Nice steering wheel and gauges, surrounded by plastics that are trying just a little to hard to look good, but really dont. IMHO, it just needs a touch more interior quality on some of the bits and it will be a great car for alot of people.
 

Kroze

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I would definitely wait till the 2013 models to come out and test it before buying the older model.

One, you may like the 2013 more due to a huge increase in horsepower and interior refinement/interior material quality.

Two, prices of the older model is going to drop even more.


I personally don't like the genesis coupe at all. Completely useless trunk space.
 

jlee

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Well the one I was looking at they were giving 1 extra year/20k km on the warranty, and the car had only 27k km on it, so it's almost like buying a new one.

Right now I'm looking at a few pretty different cars, 2004 G35 and 2004-2005 CTS-V. The G35 is very close to the 2010 3.8 Genesis in performance (maybe a bit less performance but very close), interior is a hell of a lot nicer in the G35. The CTS-V just looks like insane performance per dollar, and I've found them from $15k-$20k.

Making up my mind is proving more difficult than anticipated.

Test drive them all. I really like my CTS-V, but if fuel economy is remotely a concern you may not be interested. It's a lot of fun, though.
 

zCypher

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Test drive them all. I really like my CTS-V, but if fuel economy is remotely a concern you may not be interested. It's a lot of fun, though.

Not too much of a concern. I am buying more for pleasure than anything as I do not actually need a car to get by hehe.
 

zCypher

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I saw one cts-v at $15k black ext but beige int... It has quite a bit of mileage but looks clean. The other car im looking at in that price is a 2004 G35 with 60k miles single-owner with all the maintenance history. Looks clean too.

How does interior quality compare from G to V?
I remember really liking the G35 i sat in years ago.

Edit yes i realize rhe G is quite a bit slower than the V but thats ok.
 
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zCypher

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Here are some pics of the ones I'm looking at right now.

2005 CTS-V with 48k miles (77k kilometers), $20k says they are slightly negotiable
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2004 CTS-V with 77k miles (125k kilometers), $15k
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2004 G35 with 60k miles (100k kilometers), $15k
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Thoughts?
 
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zCypher

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04 V for $15k looks like a winner. Did you drive them yet?

seeing the G on Wednesday, haven't seen either of the V's yet.
I've heard of the 3.5L nissan's burning oil, so I know that's one thing to keep in mind.
I don't know of any flaws in the CTS-V platform. Anyone know of anything unusual to look out for there?
 

Fenixgoon

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You really want to pick up a V8 with premium over 4 dollars a gallon? Get the G35.

the G35 will run premium as well. and its gas mileage might not be all that much better. in the end, it might run the OP a few dollars per fill extra, which for him, might be 100% worth it.
 

zCypher

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Like i said im buying for pleasure not necessity. My aveo already costs fifty bucks to fill up and i can easily go through that in a week. I expect to pay quite a bit more with the G or V. I dont expect more performance for free. :p
 

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I have a 2010 3.8GT 6-speed and have been very happy with it. I bought it new, just crested over 30K miles about a week ago. It's been problem free so far, just regular maintenance. With my mods I'm pushing about 350 at the crank. There is a good community out there and lot's of modifications available now. First thing I did was change the exhaust and the sound is so much better.
 

jlee

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seeing the G on Wednesday, haven't seen either of the V's yet.
I've heard of the 3.5L nissan's burning oil, so I know that's one thing to keep in mind.
I don't know of any flaws in the CTS-V platform. Anyone know of anything unusual to look out for there?

Motor mounts like to wear out around..60k, I think. The driveline is a little clunky (attributed to the huge dual mass flywheel and squishy bushings, I think).
 

zCypher

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Motor mounts like to wear out around..60k, I think. The driveline is a little clunky (attributed to the huge dual mass flywheel and squishy bushings, I think).

Going to see the $15k CTS-V today so I appreciate the info. All in all do you feel it is a relatively reliable car?