Hypothetical- Trump shoots Comey. Reps don't impeach. Trump can't be touched

IJTSSG

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Does he use a shotgun, pistol or AR-15? The reaction here will be very different depending on what type of firearm is used.
 

Moonbeam

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The whole nature of partisanship is that it is a form of bigotry, a bias based on the unconscious certainty that whatever the party it is also the good. This means that for any partisan bigot what becomes self evident to him is that defending his or her party is the ultimate in doing good. All bigots refuse to note that their unconscious certainty in the good of their belief rests on the tautology that the good is the good, but what they believe to be the good has in fact nothing at all to with real good. They believe that something that is quite evil is good and won't let go of that faith for fear of being force to confess there is no such thing as the good which the soul knows isn't quite true.

Thus the problem becomes who knows what is actually self evident since from person to person self evident is what they were conditioned to believe not what is actually factual. But what we can say with some sense of trust or am I lying to myself, that if Trump were a Democrat, the Republicans would have long ago impeached him based on the very evidence that now exists. They can see what is self evident to democrats and non partisans when their bias isn't activated to blind them.
 

MrSquished

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Does he use a shotgun, pistol or AR-15? The reaction here will be very different depending on what type of firearm is used.

We can all point and laugh since you showed up to this discussion with nothing but a rhetorical pea shooter.
 

senseamp

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Who knows what would happen? If a government loses consent of the governed, all bets are off. Watch "Winter of Fire" for a recent example of another Putin puppet who though he was above the law too.
 

HomerJS

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Does anybody really believe that he wouldn't be impeached and then prosecuted for murder?
Really?
His supporters don't care. He said so. Republicans have been spineless to date so what makes you think that would change?? You also have to ask yourself what responsible President or spokesperson for a President would even bring up the possibility of committing murder against any US citizen??

Trump has already openly admired how dictators can kill opponents see Kim Jong Un
 
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Does anybody really believe that he wouldn't be impeached and then prosecuted for murder?
Really?

I'm pretty sure boomerang believes Trump would get the Medal of Honor.

You cannot call out a poster not participating in a thread.

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Does anybody really believe that he wouldn't be impeached and then prosecuted for murder?
Really?

How do you impeach someone if you’re dead?

Remember, this isn’t what we are saying Trump can do, this is what Trump is saying he can do. If you have a problem with it take it up with him.
 
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pcgeek11

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His supporters don't care. He said so. Republicans have been spineless to date so what makes you think that would change?? You also have to ask yourself what responsible President or spokesperson for a President would even bring up the possibility of committing murder against any US citizen??

Trump has already openly admired how dictators can kill opponents see Kim Jong Un

I am absolutely sure that he would be impeached and tried for murder and totally justified if it happened. It is just silly to think otherwise.

It is obvious that the point that was being made ( that went right over the collective heads here ) is that before he could be indicted he would need to be impeached. Yes he did use an extreme example. That is strictly his opinion as I don't think this has been proven in the courts yet.
 

pcgeek11

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How do you impeach someone if you’re dead?

Remember, this isn’t what we are saying Trump can do, this is what Trump is saying he can do. If you have a problem with it take it up with him.

You are just being obtuse.

Comey doesn't and would not have the power to impeach anyone.

The article is about his lawyer saying exactly what I said.

“In no case can he be subpoenaed or indicted,” Rudy Giuliani told Huff Post Sunday, claiming a president’s constitutional powers are that broad. “I don’t know how you can indict while he’s in office. No matter what it is.”

Giuliani said impeachment was the initial remedy for a president’s illegal behavior ― even in the extreme hypothetical case of Trump having shot former FBI Director James Comey to end the Russia investigation rather than just firing him.

If he shot James Comey, he’d be impeached the next day,” Giuliani said. “Impeach him, and then you can do whatever you want to do to him.”
 
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HomerJS

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I am absolutely sure that he would be impeached and tried for murder and totally justified if it happened. It is just silly to think otherwise.

It is obvious that the point that was being made ( that went right over the collective heads here ) is that before he could be indicted he would need to be impeached. Yes he did use an extreme example. That is strictly his opinion as I don't think this has been proven in the courts yet.
I an absolutely sure impeachment trial would already be underway if Hillary were in charge given exact same events to date. Obama would have already been found guilty.

I'm also waiting for you to admit we have a maniac in charge of the country. Admires dictators and picks fights with our allies
 
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pcgeek11

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I an absolutely sure impeachment trial would already be underway if Hillary were in charge given exact same events to date. Obama would have already been found guilty.

I'm also waiting for you to admit we have a maniac in charge of the country. Admires dictators and picks fights with our allies

Crystal Ball right?

Pure speculation and BS.

TDS at its finest.
 

HomerJS

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You are just being obtuse.

The article is about his lawyer saying exactly what I said.

“In no case can he be subpoenaed or indicted,” Rudy Giuliani told Huff Post Sunday, claiming a president’s constitutional powers are that broad. “I don’t know how you can indict while he’s in office. No matter what it is.”

Giuliani said impeachment was the initial remedy for a president’s illegal behavior ― even in the extreme hypothetical case of Trump having shot former FBI Director James Comey to end the Russia investigation rather than just firing him.

If he shot James Comey, he’d be impeached the next day,” Giuliani said. “Impeach him, and then you can do whatever you want to do to him.”
Let's say that happened. You couldn't arrest him and impeachment would take time. Meanwhile do you know what kind of damage he could do? Start wars, arrest people, arrest journalists, institute a police state. And before you claim that is ridiculous Trump has opined about doing that very thing. But again his people don't care
 

pcgeek11

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Let's say that happened. You couldn't arrest him and impeachment would take time. Meanwhile do you know what kind of damage he could do? Start wars, arrest people, arrest journalists, institute a police state. And before you claim that is ridiculous Trump has opined about doing that very thing. But again his people don't care

I'd be willing to bet he would be out of office and arrested immediately.
 

HomerJS

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I'd be willing to bet he would be out of office and arrested immediately.
I'd be willing to bet Trump would make a call out to his supporters and have them surround the White House to prevent that very thing.

Its already current policy a sitting President can't be charged with a crime. Even if Republicans grew a pair It would probably take 3-4 weeks for impeachment and removal. Can't arrest until then. Them's the rules.
 

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I think Trump would have to do all his shooting within the District of Colombia. Anything he did in a state could get him charged with a crime at the state level. I'm not sure about extradition at that level if he managed to leave the state quickly, but otherwise he'd definitely be in trouble.