[Hyerbolic] Secrets of Seal Team 6

Doppel

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This was on TV last night on discover or tlc or something. Anyway, more bluster than substance. Here are a couple of my favorite quotes so far as I watch it DVRed.

No way in the world this is true, it's just ridiculous:

Most of them have had advanced training in nuclear engineering so that if they happen upon a loose nuclear weapon they can disarm it. I would venture to say that virtually every successful member of ST6 could outperform your average Harvard student.

This from a former Seal Team Eight guy.

Don't need to send a thousand troops when you can send 12 guys trained right up to the tip of perfection who can do the job flawlessly.

The show is entertaining and worth watching but more or less a stream of movie-quality one-liners.
 

LookBehindYou

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Yeah, there is no doubt they are bad ass, no doubt that some of them have extremely technical jobs, but lets leave some of the movie bs for movies.
 

Schadenfroh

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Last time they breached my underground citadel, to rescue the supermodels and steal my plans for world domination, they were successful in defusing the briefcase nuke that was automatically activated on a 45 second countdown after the inner sanctum was breached. They managed to kill most of my minions and armored bears.

Skilled they are, but the Spetsnaz operatives were better at discerning that the human shields were mindless clones of the supermodels (brain was grown in such a way that it only works for basic life support), either that or they did not care about slaughtering human shields.
 

slayer202

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Lol I skimmed by that last night. I didn't need to stop to know they weren't going to be giving away "secrets"
 

JTsyo

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They probably had some training in nuclear weapons but I doubt it was a general class. Probably something very specific to bombs. To disarm a nuclear bomb I would think you would just need to know how to disarm the conventional explosives that trigger the nuke.
 

BeauJangles

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They probably had some training in nuclear weapons but I doubt it was a general class. Probably something very specific to bombs. To disarm a nuclear bomb I would think you would just need to know how to disarm the conventional explosives that trigger the nuke.

SEAL guys don't have crazy explosives training, especially not for defusing bombs. They're extremely proficient at blowing things up, but when they expect to come up against any sort of explosives, they are deployed with nearly-equally as bad-ass Navy EOD teams.
 

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SEAL guys don't have crazy explosives training, especially not for defusing bombs. They're extremely proficient at blowing things up, but when they expect to come up against any sort of explosives, they are deployed with nearly-equally as bad-ass Navy EOD teams.
So they are not given advanced nuclear training on the "off chance" that they "happen upon" a nuclear device rigged to blow in 45 seconds so that they know how to disarm it right away?
 

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Finishing it now. LOL one of the pieces of equipment is "Heavy Duty Grease", you know to make sure their weapon keeps working in extreme environments. They also use a "compass". I'm not making this up. Snipers wear ghillie suits. Ugh. Granted, some of the stuff I didn't really know about but a lot of it is cheese or obvious.

Actually a cool thing is the dog they have, like they took on the OBL mission, has a speaker on it so that it can be commanded at a distance "to kill" (last part added by the show for dramatic effect).

They are saying that there is a "special satellite dedicated to Seal Team Six operations". I find this unlikely. Don't you need multiple satellites to maintain coverage of an area due to not being in geosynchronous orbit? It can't be true.
 
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Blitzvogel

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Meh, typical silly movie-style orientated TV show depicting legendary men in a stupid Tom Clancy-ish manner. Shame on shows like this.
 

LookBehindYou

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Ok, stop tip toeing around the REAL issue here.

SEAL VS MMA VS BRUCE LEE , who wins?

SEAL more than likely. MMA fighters are more skilled, but are trained in a sport, whereas SEAL members are trained to kill. Is the MMA guy a better fighter, sure. A better killer? No. Bruce Lee is dead, so he doesnt stand a chance.
 

brainhulk

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could they have picked a more fearsome animal than a seal?

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something like navy platypus..

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or is it platypii?
 

Josh123

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My question is, how much downtime do these guys have? Surely they aren't on blackop missions 24/7 are they?

If not then I could definitely see them working with experts on how to perform tasks like disarming a nuke. Some people thrive for learning new things and retain information like crazy so why not?
 

BeauJangles

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My question is, how much downtime do these guys have? Surely they aren't on blackop missions 24/7 are they?

Obviously an unknown, but SOCOM guys spend about 50% of their time deployed in combat zones right now. DEVRGU is a little different because they're often flown directly from their bases here in the US to a country to conduct a mission and then promptly returned. DEVRGU also isn't a bunch of spies, they are a direct action force meaning they get a mission, they go in, and they get out.

If not then I could definitely see them working with experts on how to perform tasks like disarming a nuke. Some people thrive for learning new things and retain information like crazy so why not?

When they aren't deployed, they're training. Again, though, I really doubt they spend a lot of time training on how to disarm nukes for two reasons. First, the situation where they would encounter a live nuclear weapon is pretty unlikely. Second, if they were going into a situation with a live nuke, they would bring the EOD guys. That's EOD's job. They spend the vast majority of their time learning how to disarm all types of weapons and training to work alongside special operations forces. 50% of EOD's deployments are in conjunction with special operations teams and they are well-versed in both infiltration tactics and in small-arms combat.
 

Josh123

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Obviously an unknown, but SOCOM guys spend about 50% of their time deployed in combat zones right now. DEVRGU is a little different because they're often flown directly from their bases here in the US to a country to conduct a mission and then promptly returned. DEVRGU also isn't a bunch of spies, they are a direct action force meaning they get a mission, they go in, and they get out.

Ya, this is what I figured happened. Hell, how long did the media claim these guys had trained specifically for the takedown of Bin Laden? A couple months?
 

brblx

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seals/rangers/devgru/delta (the last two in particular) have probably been training for bin laden scenarios for the last ten years.

for the soldiers that actually went inside, they probably didn't know shit in relation to that specific situation until they were called to action. iirc the president is the one (with copious military and intelligence advisement, i'm sure) who actually decides to send a group of tier 1 'operators' in- they just got a briefing and did the job. they're not in charge of gathering nor analyzing intelligence.
 

Josh123

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seals/rangers/devgru/delta (the last two in particular) have probably been training for bin laden scenarios for the last ten years.

for the soldiers that actually went inside, they probably didn't know shit in relation to that specific situation until they were called to action. iirc the president is the one (with copious military and intelligence advisement, i'm sure) who actually decides to send a group of tier 1 'operators' in- they just got a briefing and did the job. they're not in charge of gathering nor analyzing intelligence.

From my understanding the DEVGRU team had been training using the same layout of the compound he was staying in.
 

JTsyo

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seals/rangers/devgru/delta (the last two in particular) have probably been training for bin laden scenarios for the last ten years.

for the soldiers that actually went inside, they probably didn't know shit in relation to that specific situation until they were called to action. iirc the president is the one (with copious military and intelligence advisement, i'm sure) who actually decides to send a group of tier 1 'operators' in- they just got a briefing and did the job. they're not in charge of gathering nor analyzing intelligence.

They had long enough to build a mock up and practice the raid.