Hybrid owners unlikely to repeat

[glen]

http://bottomline.msnbc.msn.com/_ne...-unlikely-to-buy-another-one-study-shows?lite
Intersting.
I still think a fuel efficient car is probably better for the environment than a hybrid considering the battery manufacture and disposal.

 

[JTsyo]

Wondering what percent of hybrid owners have even got rid of their first one by now. Also the trouble is linking together the crappy hybrids with the good ones. Ones like the Camry hybrid, didn't offer much improvement in gas mileage at all. The escape did better with a larger chassis.

 

[AstroManLuca]

I think keeping any old car (that still runs) is better for the environment than buying any new car, even if the old car gets worse mileage. Better for your pocketbook too (again, as long as the old car still runs and doesn't have any serious issues). A lot of people are too quick to ditch their old cars simply because they're old.

 

[Dman8777]

I think keeping any old car (that still runs) is better for the environment than buying any new car, even if the old car gets worse mileage. Better for your pocketbook too (again, as long as the old car still runs and doesn't have any serious issues). A lot of people are too quick to ditch their old cars simply because they're old.

That's all well and good but we have a growth-based economy. People are supposed to buy new things to replace old things in a short, continuous cycle.

 

[AstroManLuca]

That's all well and good but we have a growth-based economy. People are supposed to buy new things to replace old things in a short, continuous cycle.

I know, and there are plenty of people out there doing that. Forgive me if I don't "do my part" by digging myself into unnecessary debt just to stimulate the economy.

 

[xSkyDrAx]

That's because they realize how boring they are :awe:

 

[Vic Vega]

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[Xecuter]

Forgive me if I'm not informed, but I've heard the opposite of the Prius

Do you have links to some articles?

The majority of hybrids out there are Priuses so it seems reasonable a majority of people surveyed who won't buy another one drive a Prius. That said, the Prius, any generation, is a terrible car. The ONLY reason is sells is because of the mileage factor and the smug factor. As a car, they are terrible. All the auto publications agree they are slow, uncomfortable, terrible to drive and full of dollar store plastics.

 

[woodie1]

The majority of hybrids out there are Priuses so it seems reasonable a majority of people surveyed who won't buy another one drive a Prius. That said, the Prius, any generation, is a terrible car. The ONLY reason is sells is because of the mileage factor and the smug factor. As a car, they are terrible. All the auto publications agree they are slow, uncomfortable, terrible to drive and full of dollar store plastics.

I'd like to know where you got this idea. Care to share? I have not read any articles in car mags that say what you claim except maybe for the plastic.

 

[JimKiler]

This leads me to beg hollywood for another documentary called Who Killed the Hybrid Car. Apparently in Who Killed the Electric Car, lack of sales was never discussed. Not that I have seen that movie.

 

[Capt Caveman]

The majority of hybrids out there are Priuses so it seems reasonable a majority of people surveyed who won't buy another one drive a Prius. That said, the Prius, any generation, is a terrible car. The ONLY reason is sells is because of the mileage factor and the smug factor. As a car, they are terrible. All the auto publications agree they are slow, uncomfortable, terrible to drive and full of dollar store plastics.

Every Prius owner I know loves their car, I've ridden in one numerous times and don't find them uncomfortable. I believe they have one of the highest customer satisfaction rates for all vehicles.

 

[ElFenix]

I think keeping any old car (that still runs) is better for the environment than buying any new car, even if the old car gets worse mileage. Better for your pocketbook too (again, as long as the old car still runs and doesn't have any serious issues). A lot of people are too quick to ditch their old cars simply because they're old.

except for cash for clunkers, most running cars aren't just chopped up and stuffed into the ground.

 

[Vic Vega]

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[brainhulk]

I love my prius. 60+ miles per gallon, 500+ miles on a 8.5 gallon tank > *

 

[woodie1]

I love my prius. 60+ miles per gallon, 500+ miles on a 8.5 gallon tank > *

DAMN! That's gotta put a smile on your face at fill-up time. Which model do you have?

 

[vi edit]

A couple questions I have...out of total sales of hybrids, how many have even gone for a trade in?

What about leases? Is that included? What about the increase in available 40MPG cars now? 5 years ago the hybrids were the only thing (outside of VW diesels) that would pull that milage. Now almost ever manf out there can pull 35-40MPG in several cars in their lineup.

Lots of numbers to account for and the availablity of higher milage, traditional gasoline motors has certainly improved. Truth is probably somewhere in the middle.

 

[Ferzerp]

I love my prius. 60+ miles per gallon, 500+ miles on a 8.5 gallon tank > *

A small diesel could do better, without needing batteries that add initial cost and eventual maintenance cost.

 

[thegimp03]

One of my wife's uncles is about ready to replace the battery in his Prius. He said he likely will put the $2k it will cost to replace the battery towards the purchase of a new car.

 

[vi edit]

A small diesel could do better, without needing batteries that add initial cost and eventual maintenance cost.

Don't hate the players, hate the game. We simply don't have diesel options. And the ones we do have come with their own risks. Ask some VW owners about fuel delivery problems costing thousands to repair and long term maint costs on the new common rail designs. Plus you throw a turbo in there for an additional maintenance item that could break and it could easily be more expensive than a hybrid. Not to mention that diesel does cost more and would likely only go up in price as more cars move over to it.

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

You guys need to learn to use Google.

No, you made the claim, you back it up.

The Prii just topped the list of Consumer Reports owner satisfaction rankings (again), and does the same around the globe. And has one of the lowest cost to own ratios out there, among cars like the Fit. Not talking about the C, but the full size Prius.

 

[brainhulk]

DAMN! That's gotta put a smile on your face at fill-up time. Which model do you have?

I have a prius C

 

[Ferzerp]

I won't accept your first set of claims, as batteries are a wear item. Any mechanical part can fail in any vehicle. Just because VW is horrible for reliability recently doesn't mean diesel can't be nearly as reliable (though yes, the addition of a turbo which is needed, does raise overall potential cost)

You are correct in that if more cars used diesel, the price would go up. It's not like you can turn crude oil in to either gasoline or diesel. Part of it is split off in to gasoline, and the slightly longer hydrocarbon chains are the diesel.

It's sort of like the used cooking oil people. That only works because it isn't worth much because demand is low. If everyone started trying to use that as a diesel substitute, no one could afford it due to low supply.

 

[PhoKingGuy]

I have a prius C

How does it feel to drive? We are thinking of replacing my moms 99 I30 with either one of these or a Volt (Yeah I know price difference whatever, disregard that).

0-60 in 11 seconds just seems....pathetic..

 

[brainhulk]

One of my wife's uncles is about ready to replace the battery in his Prius. He said he likely will put the $2k it will cost to replace the battery towards the purchase of a new car.

they could look on craigslist/ebay and get one for < $800

 

[Ferzerp]

they could look on craigslist/ebay and get one for < $800

A set of used batteries is not really comparable to a set of new batteries. Just like buying used tires are not like buying new, or brake pads, etc. Every charge-discharge cycle that they have gone through is one less than the new part would give you.