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Hybrid heartbreak: Gas-electric [Honda] Civic fails to get promised mileage
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Betcha twenty bucks it's from his driving style and the very cold weather 😉
HellRaiserandBeerDrinker
Senior member
Mfg mileage statistics for ALL MFG are under optimum conditions
(as in downhill)
Honda makes fantastic automobiles.
Link not working at 8:34 AM
review from their site
<<Civic Si roars like a jet, handles like a dream
BY TONY SWAN Detroit Free Press Auto Critic
If you like the idea of affordable -- defined as less than $20,000 -- high performance, you just can't do much better than this hot new version of the Honda Civic coupe.
With 160 horsepower and aggressive suspension tweaks, there's a tiger lurking beneath its demure exterior.
But the return of a real Civic hot rod -- the first since the departure of the two-seat del Sol Si VTEC at the end of 1997 -- indicates that Honda is tuned into what's going on with its younger buyers.
To illustrate this phenomenon, please indulge me in a little semantic discussion.
When you or I hear the word "slammed" in connection with an automobile, it usually conjures up images of disaster.
Jimmy slammed his pickup through the vestry at St. Martin's by the Lake, for example, or Betty Jean slammed her Buick into the back of a bus. Bad things.
But to an emerging group of young hot-rodders in southern California and metro areas of Arizona, including Tucson and Phoenix, slammed means something else entirely.
It describes a car that's been modified by its owner, either cosmetically or mechanically. Or, in many cases, both.
I'm not entirely sure where the word "slammed" came from, but I think it has to do with lowering the car's ride height or "slamming" it down on its suspension.
However, the word has since been stretched to include a variety of custom modifications.
The folks who are making this happen do a lot of the same things traditional hot-rodders do -- cruising, for example, or taking their cars to Friday night races at the local drag strip.
But that's where the similarity ends. You won't hear them talking about small-block Chevy V8s, for example, the mechanical cornerstone of traditional hot-rodding. And Little Deuce Coupe is just an abstract musical concept.>>
Edit: Link working now
figures seem awfully low
😕
(as in downhill)
Honda makes fantastic automobiles.
Link not working at 8:34 AM
review from their site
<<Civic Si roars like a jet, handles like a dream
BY TONY SWAN Detroit Free Press Auto Critic
If you like the idea of affordable -- defined as less than $20,000 -- high performance, you just can't do much better than this hot new version of the Honda Civic coupe.
With 160 horsepower and aggressive suspension tweaks, there's a tiger lurking beneath its demure exterior.
But the return of a real Civic hot rod -- the first since the departure of the two-seat del Sol Si VTEC at the end of 1997 -- indicates that Honda is tuned into what's going on with its younger buyers.
To illustrate this phenomenon, please indulge me in a little semantic discussion.
When you or I hear the word "slammed" in connection with an automobile, it usually conjures up images of disaster.
Jimmy slammed his pickup through the vestry at St. Martin's by the Lake, for example, or Betty Jean slammed her Buick into the back of a bus. Bad things.
But to an emerging group of young hot-rodders in southern California and metro areas of Arizona, including Tucson and Phoenix, slammed means something else entirely.
It describes a car that's been modified by its owner, either cosmetically or mechanically. Or, in many cases, both.
I'm not entirely sure where the word "slammed" came from, but I think it has to do with lowering the car's ride height or "slamming" it down on its suspension.
However, the word has since been stretched to include a variety of custom modifications.
The folks who are making this happen do a lot of the same things traditional hot-rodders do -- cruising, for example, or taking their cars to Friday night races at the local drag strip.
But that's where the similarity ends. You won't hear them talking about small-block Chevy V8s, for example, the mechanical cornerstone of traditional hot-rodding. And Little Deuce Coupe is just an abstract musical concept.>>
Edit: Link working now
figures seem awfully low
😕
HellRaiserandBeerDrinker
Senior member
I was joking about the downhill part
😉
😉
I am disappointed....I am probably one of the biggest supporters of alternative fuels and I loved the idea of the Prius and Insight (even thought is Fugly). When I heard about the Civic, I was first on their mailing list and even shopped them at the lot. The price tag is insane, but understandable in this current car market. It seems like you cannot find a "decent car" for under 19 grand. I am stuck paying 400-500/month car payments. Sigh.
But now hearing that the gas milage is not much better than its gasoline cousin in real life testing is another blow to not buying one, at least not as my main car. Yes, if I had a wife/kid that needed a car to tool around with and do errands with, I would probably recommend/buy one of these, but still...they need to cut the price and up the efficiency before they can be real alternatives to people who would really buy these things...people who are trying to save money.
But now hearing that the gas milage is not much better than its gasoline cousin in real life testing is another blow to not buying one, at least not as my main car. Yes, if I had a wife/kid that needed a car to tool around with and do errands with, I would probably recommend/buy one of these, but still...they need to cut the price and up the efficiency before they can be real alternatives to people who would really buy these things...people who are trying to save money.
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