Hurtcore

[urvile]

"Falder, who worked at Birmingham University in the UK, was arrested while at work on June 21, 2017, following a joint international investigation led by the UK’s National Crime Agency, Europol, the US Department for Homeland Security and the Australian Federal Police among others. He was given a 32-year prison sentence with an extended period of six years on licence at the Birmingham Crown Court. He was also placed on the sex offenders’ register and was made the subject of a Sexual Harm Prevention Order."

http://www.ibtimes.com.au/dark-web-...r-gets-32-year-jail-hurt-core-charges-1565171

The very dark side of the interwebs.

 

[trenchfoot]

A medieval approach toward meting out justice for people like that somehow seems justified given the crimes committed, yet our present societal norms would suggest otherwise. It does seem though that being humane to a person who is inhumane in such a wicked and vile way seems to lack a sense of true justice and it would in some way seem to encourage similar abominable acts due to an absence of, shall we say, punishment equal to the acts perpetrated against the innocent.

Yet we do have laws that are supposedly designed to not only punish those who commit such heinous crimes, these laws are also intended to provide a means to discourage such acts from being repeated in "an humane fashion" as it applies to the various versions of moral turpitude inherent in our present day societies (with exceptions noted of course, ie - North Korea, etc.)

It still seems to me though that the methods we use to balance the scales of justice often lack a certain sense of equity in many instances in regards to crimes committed vs. punishment doled out, especially in the area of white collar crime at the highest levels of society.

 

[urvile]

A medieval approach toward meting out justice for people like that somehow seems justified given the crimes committed, yet our present societal norms would suggest otherwise. It does seem though that being humane to a person who is inhumane in such a wicked and vile way seems to lack a sense of true justice and it would in some way seem to encourage similar abominable acts due to an absence of, shall we say, punishment equal to the acts perpetrated against the innocent.

Yet we do have laws that are supposedly designed to not only punish those who commit such heinous crimes, these laws are also intended to provide a means to discourage such acts from being repeated in "an humane fashion" as it applies to the various versions of moral turpitude inherent in our present day societies (with exceptions noted of course, ie - North Korea, etc.)

It still seems to me though that the methods we use to balance the scales of justice often lack a certain sense of equity in many instances in regards to crimes committed vs. punishment doled out, especially in the area of white collar crime at the highest levels of society.

I don't know. 32 years seems pretty serious dude. The guy is going to be in his fifties before he is released. For me I look at this guy and I see really low self esteem. Similar to being an internet troll except he is intelligent and able to take it to an extreme level. Plus he has been marked as someone who has committed crimes against children so he isn't going to have fun in prison. He will be hated and reviled. Seems like punishment.

I would say seems like justice but would that be correct?

 

[urvile]

Although I will admit it is pretty crazy what they had to do to catch him. A multi national task force not only involving federal police but intelligence agencies all because he knew how to use tor. Expect that and vpns to get taken away from us at some point. It's for our own good though. So shut the fuck up. Right?

Although there are attacks on tor. There are various ways to attack anything right?

 

[trenchfoot]

I don't know. 32 years seems pretty serious dude. The guy is going to be in his fifties before he is released. For me I look at this guy and I see really low self esteem. Similar to being an internet troll except he is intelligent and able to take it to an extreme level. Plus he has been marked as someone who has committed crimes against children so he isn't going to have fun in prison. He will be hated and reviled. Seems like punishment.

I would say seems like justice but would that be correct?

Oh don't get me wrong on this as I feel that justice served in humane fashion is something I accept and agree with "when viewing things from a purely objective point of view" as our laws should be viewed from. That being said, as a matter of perspective, when I look at justice being served from the victim's point of view, especially from a parent's point of view where they see how their most precious children were being victimized by folks like this sexually deviant guy we're referring to, well, now things are at a whole new level of concern and judgment with regards to "true justice" being served. Those children that were violated and their related loved ones have been tragically affected for the rest of their lives by the perpetrator, yet the perp is going to be set free at a certain point in time and given a fresh yet tainted chance at a life reborn, or, as his victims and their loved ones see it, another chance to do his dirty deeds all over again. Ergo, no real justice served.

Yet, as I've previously mentioned, I'll defer to what's on the books in lieu of seeking "true justice" from the victim's point of view as their views may vary from mild to wild, from compassionate forgiveness all the way to "hang'um from the tallest tree for all to see".

Social order and equal treatment under the law is all we've got to rely on so logically speaking, it's about the best way to go.

 

[urvile]

Oh don't get me wrong on this as I feel that justice served in humane fashion is something I accept and agree with "when viewing things from a purely objective point of view" as our laws should be viewed from. That being said, as a matter of perspective, when I look at justice being served from the victim's point of view, especially from a parent's point of view where they see how their most precious children were being victimized by folks like this sexually deviant guy we're referring to, well, now things are at a whole new level of concern and judgment with regards to "true justice" being served. Those children that were violated and their related loved ones have been tragically affected for the rest of their lives by the perpetrator, yet the perp is going to be set free at a certain point in time and given a fresh yet tainted chance at a life reborn, or, as his victims and their loved ones see it, another chance to do his dirty deeds all over again. Ergo, no real justice served.

Yet, as I've previously mentioned, I'll defer to what's on the books in lieu of seeking "true justice" from the victim's point of view as their views may vary from mild to wild, from compassionate forgiveness all the way to "hang'um from the tallest tree for all to see".

Social order and equal treatment under the law is all we've got to rely on so logically speaking, it's about the best way to go.

Sure. But it is law within the context of an independent nation state. How does that apply to the internet? Multi national task force but is that more ad-hoc....as in our laws are similar and whichever country the perp resides in. Prosecutes him by their laws which comes back to the judiciary and potentially a jury. Maybe? I don't have enough knowledge on the application of one nations states law on another. Be that as it may this guy is a sick fuck with problems and he should be in prison. right?

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

A dark web paedophile who encouraged child rape online has been jailed for 32 years. Matthew Falder, who had a masters degree and PhD from Cambridge University, admitted to 137 charges, including blackmailing men, women and children in performing degrading and illegal acts, such as rape of a four-year-old boy.

Yeah, fuck him. If it makes you feel better, he likely won't actually serve all 32 years, he'll be dead sooner.

 

[NAC4EV]

If he serves all 32 he will be 61 when he gets out.
To short.

 

[Moonbeam]

If he serves all 32 he will be 61 when he gets out.
To short.

Kind of what I think. Why should he ever get out if he stays fundamentally unchanged.