Hurricane Michele Bachmann?

BlueWolf47

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Link to video:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=efAUCG9oTb8

This gave me a good laugh.

Hurricane Katrina hit Louisiana eight years ago today, killing at least 1,836 people. Now, a group of activists wants to know: Why place that morbid association on the people of the world named Katrina? A new petition argues that we should name storms after the people whose climate change-denying positions are exacerbating the problem. Look out for Hurricane Michele Bachmann.

The tongue-in-cheek (?) Climate Name Change petition calls for 50,000 signatures to be sent to the World Meteorological Organization, which names storms. The petition would ask the organization to begin naming storms after politicians who've denied human-caused climate change. (The group's also provided a handy list of Republican and Democratic policy-makers who'd be good candidates.) As of writing, the petition has more than 43,000 signatures.

Scientists can't pin down any specific storm to climate change, but on the whole, storms are getting worse because of (human-caused) climate change. Is the World Meteorological Organization going to change its naming process because of a 50,000-person petition? No. But it's a clever way of spreading awareness about who's making an already major problem worse.
http://m.popsci.com/science/article/2013-08/idea-name-storms-after-global-warming-denying-politicians
 
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monovillage

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Sandy was terrible, but we're currently in a relative hurricane 'drought.' Connecting energy policy and disasters makes little scientific sense.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204840504578089413659452702.html

http://rogerpielkejr.blogspot.com/2012/05/updated-us-intense-hurricane-drought.html

http://www.13abc.com/story/23313990...rough-september-1st-for-first-time-since-2002
No Atlantic hurricanes into September for 1st time since 2002

http://judithcurry.com/2013/09/01/climate-of-failure/
On the politics of global warming policy.
 

glenn1

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Link to video:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=efAUCG9oTb8

This gave me a good laugh.

Sounds fair, and we can name negative social phenomena after those who either caused or directly contribute to it. Sorta like how stadiums have naming rights, for example the unemployment rate could be called "The official Barack Obama unemployment and layoff rate." Or the "Nancy Pelosi teen illegitimate birth rate." The "Harry Reid inner city gang-related homicide rate." The possibilities are endless.
 

BlueWolf47

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Your essentially making the "look its snowing outside! No Global Warming!" argument. I know deep inside you felt only a retard would make this statement but you couldn't overcome your ideological barriers.


You might try linking to scientific studies or statements by climate scientists once in a while.
 
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nehalem256

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Your essentially making the "look its snowing outside! No Global Warming!" argument. I know deep inside you felt only a retard would make this statement but you couldn't overcome your ideological barriers.


You might try linking to scientific studies or statements by climate scientists once in a while.

Actually I think its more like the United States hasn't been attacked by a string of string of Super Katrinas as predicted by Climate Change activists therefore they have to resort to silly tactics like trying to shame people who opposed them.

Although, quite frankly, I think I would be awesome to have a hurricane named after me.
 

drebo

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Your essentially making the "look its snowing outside! No Global Warming!" argument. I know deep inside you felt only a retard would make this statement but you couldn't overcome your ideological barriers.


You might try linking to scientific studies or statements by climate scientists once in a while.

When your climate change assertion is that storms are becoming more frequent and severe, it should be backed up by the frequency and severity of actual storms that are occurring.

It's not.

Reality 1, Climate "Modeling" 0.
 

monovillage

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Your essentially making the "look its snowing outside! No Global Warming!" argument. I know deep inside you felt only a retard would make this statement but you couldn't overcome your ideological barriers.


You might try linking to scientific studies or statements by climate scientists once in a while.

Sorry dipshit, you were the one linking political garbage while i posted comments by climate scientists about the problems with linking political policy to bad science.

Next time try reading the links, not just spewing your usual crap.
 

BlueWolf47

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The video was obviously satirical. How come conservatives never seem to have a sense of humor.
 

BlueWolf47

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When your climate change assertion is that storms are becoming more frequent and severe, it should be backed up by the frequency and severity of actual storms that are occurring.

It's not.

Reality 1, Climate "Modeling" 0.

Frequency is hard to predict as many factors contribute. However, a higher sea level means storm surges will be more severe, such as the case with hurricane sandy.
 

monovillage

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Frequency is hard to predict as many factors contribute. However, a higher sea level means storm surges will be more severe, such as the case with hurricane sandy.

Also refuted.
http://judithcurry.com/2013/05/24/storm-surge-hockey-stick-2/

JC summary

The historical record for U.S. landfalling hurricanes since about 1900 is pretty robust, and storm surge can be estimated fairly reliably using models in locations and periods where storm surge observations were lacking. Tide guage measurements at a limited number of locations (where it is impossible to separate out hurricane induced surges from other causes) are a very poor proxy for hurricane activity. Erroneous inferences from the tide gauge measurements combined with dubious applications of climate models produces a faux storm surge hockey stick.

You can also check
http://rogerpielkejr.blogspot.com/2012/11/i-am-roughly-18-feet-tall-critque-of.html
and
http://rogerpielkejr.blogspot.com/2013/03/i-remain-roughly-18-feet-tall.html
 

Moonbeam

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So much of wealth is earned by predation. It is not so surprising, then, that the party of the rich and air conditioned would fail to appreciate the fears of the exposed or that the exposed might wish on them the same discomfort.
 

glenn1

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So much of wealth is earned by predation. It is not so surprising, then, that the party of the rich and air conditioned would fail to appreciate the fears of the exposed or that the exposed might wish on them the same discomfort.

Unless environmentalists have solar-powered air conditioners this is a moot point. It's simply that some whose personal preference is to live in the city and drive a smaller car also embrace Global Warming theories to allow them to feel morally superior to those whose choices are to live in the suburbs and drive SUVs.
 

nehalem256

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More fun:

http://www.salon.com/2013/09/03/climate_change_can_save_new_york/singleton/
Sandy’s unusual track was caused by a rare interaction between atmospheric winds known as the jet stream and a high-pressure weather system known as a “blocking system” to the north of the hurricane. The interaction steered Sandy on a track that took it almost due west as it made landfall in New Jersey last October 29.

The study’s authors noted that Sandy’s track was the most perpendicular to the Atlantic Coast of any storm on record. But the east-blowing winds that the study’s authors say could result from climate change could push future such storms toward the Atlantic Ocean.

The authors also suggested that the change in atmospheric winds would reduce the likelihood that a high-pressure blocking system similar to the one that affected Sandy’s path would form. That would further increase the likelihood that future Atlantic hurricanes would be steered away from the U.S.

If you exchange your gas-guzzling SUV for a Prius you hate NY :awe:
 

Jaskalas

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Your essentially making the "look its snowing outside! No Global Warming!" argument.

As opposed to the "Look, a Hurricane, its Global Warming!" argument.

That's what you get for saying weather is climate. If you're going to play with fire, at times you may get burned.
 

bshole

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So much of wealth is earned by predation. It is not so surprising, then, that the party of the rich and air conditioned would fail to appreciate the fears of the exposed or that the exposed might wish on them the same discomfort.

Their time is coming, our French Revolution draws ever closer.
 

MrColin

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I would support naming all disasters, not just hurricanes or natural disasters, after bad politicians.
ie:
"the Hugo Chavez earthquake reached a 7.6 on the Richter scale."
or
Ministry of Labor and Social Security of the People's Republic Tsunami has caused mass devastation throughout the region.
 

Bitek

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You can't rename Katrina after Bachman, Michele has zero results and actions from all her bluster