Hurricane Dorian thread

[Jhhnn]

Well they get to live in the Bahamas the rest of the year, so they have that.. I mean it sucks for them, but this is nothing new, they chose to live in that place.. They knew it would happen.
Multiple hurricanes pass over those islands every season, it's comical when the news act all surprised; "a hurricane caused damage?! we could not have foreseen this! How could this happen again...? (like it did 5 times last year...)"

Well, having the eye of the strongest cat 5 hurricane since 1935 passing over your house is not usual. If you didn't get blown away by the first pass you probably will when the wind shifts direction & hits you from the other side. If you make it through, pray that your insurance company doesn't go broke.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Uhmm, the only spaghetti model from your link that has even a single line into Alabama quite clearly and repeatedly shows it is from the 28th of August, not the 30th. The same model that gave the possibility of Alabama being in play (AEMN) had discounted it by 30 August as you can see from the next chart in your link.

Nice job not reading your own links, you big dummy.

Trump was wrong and he's too stupid and mentally ill to admit he was wrong.

And the person you're responding to is too stupid to admit that they'll defend Turmp regardless if he's pissing in their face or shitting in their mouths.

 

[Zstream]

This is wrong. Solar flares and volcanoes are transient events. What we care about is long term impact and humans are #1 on that.

In addition, the metric you should look at is per capita carbon emissions. Does that change your mind?



So to be clear you think we should manufacture things in a less efficient way? Why?



His point was that his current car gets better mileage than his previous one.

Lol, oh el o el. Long term impacts? Outside factors play a much larger role, rather you like it or not. There is no debating that. It’s pure fact. You can play with your fiction all day long, it doesn’t change fact.

No, we don’t need to look at per capita as a metric. It’s called you find a good solution, and you implement said good solution. You don’t use an improper tool, or idea to combat issues that have longer term impact as a society. You need to look at your comrades in China, and Russia to find the leading offenders of pollution.

Don’t talk about tax’s when you clearly just want to rule and play monopoly with other people’s money, which they earned! I’d love to see your pay stub, and see how much in taxes you pay on a yearly basis. From your constant moronic posts here at Anandtech, I bet it’s not much.

His point was stupid, and goes to this political forum in general. Talk fact, and only fact. His engine isn’t getting better gas mileage. Transmissions are getting the gas..

 

[Puffnstuff]

Uh oh somebody didn't get the NHC memo about making a NE turn.

 

[BUTCH1]

Uh oh somebody didn't get the NHC memo about making a NE turn.
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Yea, we are getting raked pretty good here in Daytona right now, lights have already flickered a few times, I don't expect it to hold through the night. although the storm dropped to a 2 it has not helped since the wind field expanded greatly.

 

[Puffnstuff]

The scope is relatively clear here around Jax but I expect that by morning things will be different. Albeit, I'm on the far west side of town and not near any flood zones but that won't keep the lights on if the winds really pick up. So much for buried utilities....but we did keep power for most of Matthew two years ago.

 

[fskimospy]

Lol, oh el o el. Long term impacts? Outside factors play a much larger role, rather you like it or not. There is no debating that. It’s pure fact. You can play with your fiction all day long, it doesn’t change fact.

You don’t understand what you’re talking about. Outside factors are larger overall determinants of global temperatures but as I said they are transient. If anything they have trended towards cooling in recent decades.

So while sun output may be a much larger factor in what the temperature is in any given year, its fluctuations have not been the determinant of the change in global temperature over the last 40 years because it hasn’t varied that much overall.

Do you understand better now?

No, we don’t need to look at per capita as a metric. It’s called you find a good solution, and you implement said good solution. You don’t use an improper tool, or idea to combat issues that have longer term impact as a society. You need to look at your comrades in China, and Russia to find the leading offenders of pollution.

Nope. US per capita emissions are much higher than Russia or China. Any good solution will involve decreasing per capita emissions, especially in heavy per capita emissions countries like the US.

Don’t talk about tax’s when you clearly just want to rule and play monopoly with other people’s money, which they earned! I’d love to see your pay stub, and see how much in taxes you pay on a yearly basis. From your constant moronic posts here at Anandtech, I bet it’s not much.

Talk facts, and only facts. Just so you know you can’t make me mad so insulting me is a waste of your time.

I was simply explaining the difference between tariffs and gas taxes because you seemed to be under the silly impression they were the same. If that makes you mad that’s your business.

His point was stupid, and goes to this political forum in general. Talk fact, and only fact. His engine isn’t getting better gas mileage. Transmissions are getting the gas..

He was talking facts. If inconvenient facts bother you that’s your problem, not his.

 

[BUTCH1]

The scope is relatively clear here around Jax but I expect that by morning things will be different. Albeit, I'm on the far west side of town and not near any flood zones but that won't keep the lights on if the winds really pick up. So much for buried utilities....but we did keep power for most of Matthew two years ago.

It looks to be angling away a bit as it moves north, you should be OK.

 

[Lanyap]

Well...it IS Flori-Duh...home of FloridaMan...so...

You do realize FloridaMan is everywhere, don't you? The only reason we hear about Florida so much is their open records laws and the media is constantly scanning the data to give us a FloridaMan story everyday.

The Florida Public Records Law states, it is the policy of this state that all state, county, and municipal records shall at all times be open for a personal inspection by any person.

 

[Puffnstuff]

It looks to be angling away a bit as it moves north, you should be OK.

She's headed NW right towards us and the first feeder bands are now about 60 miles away over Palm Coast. As long as I have internet, AC and hot coffee I'm good.

 

[HomerJS]

Let's recall the sequence.
1. Trump cancels trip to Poland claiming he is going to monitor hurricane.
2. He goes to Camp David feigning doing something right for a change.
3. He decides screw the hurricane, I'm going golfing
4. He announces the wrong state in danger and then says the following amazing thing...
Trump doesn't think he's 'ever even heard of a Category 5' hurricane. Four such storms have threatened the US since he took office

When are the Trump fools going to realize he doesn't give two shits about them, this job or the country. It's all about how much money he can grift from taxpayers and other people.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/01/politics/donald-trump-category-5-hurricane-dorian/index.html

 

[Lanyap]

She's headed NW right towards us and the first feeder bands are now about 60 miles away over Palm Coast. As long as I have internet, AC and hot coffee I'm good.
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Good luck. Hang in there. I'm on the west coast near Spring Hill. Not sure if we'll see any bands here.

 

[purbeast0]

Let's recall the sequence.
1. Trump cancels trip to Poland claiming he is going to monitor hurricane.
2. He goes to Camp David feigning doing something right for a change.
3. He decides screw the hurricane, I'm going golfing
4. He announces the wrong state in danger and then says the following amazing thing...
Trump doesn't think he's 'ever even heard of a Category 5' hurricane. Four such storms have threatened the US since he took office

When are the Trump fools going to realize he doesn't give two shits about them, this job or the country. It's all about how much money he can grift from taxpayers and other people.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/01/politics/donald-trump-category-5-hurricane-dorian/index.html

You forgot the part where he said people in Alabama need to take shelter because the hurricane is hitting them hard.

 

[BUTCH1]

She's headed NW right towards us and the first feeder bands are now about 60 miles away over Palm Coast. As long as I have internet, AC and hot coffee I'm good.
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Yea, it's jogged back to the Northwest and the expanding eyewall is bringing hurricane gust's onshore.

 

[Jhhnn]

Yea, it's jogged back to the Northwest and the expanding eyewall is bringing hurricane gust's onshore.

It's fortunate that Dorian is now cat 2 with mere 110 mph winds, max, rather than the 165 mph winds that hit the Bahamas.

 

[Paratus]

Lol, oh el o el. Long term impacts? Outside factors play a much larger role, rather you like it or not. There is no debating that. It’s pure fact. You can play with your fiction all day long, it doesn’t change fact.

No, we don’t need to look at per capita as a metric. It’s called you find a good solution, and you implement said good solution. You don’t use an improper tool, or idea to combat issues that have longer term impact as a society. You need to look at your comrades in China, and Russia to find the leading offenders of pollution.

Don’t talk about tax’s when you clearly just want to rule and play monopoly with other people’s money, which they earned! I’d love to see your pay stub, and see how much in taxes you pay on a yearly basis. From your constant moronic posts here at Anandtech, I bet it’s not much.

His point was stupid, and goes to this political forum in general. Talk fact, and only fact. His engine isn’t getting better gas mileage. Transmissions are getting the gas..

In point of fact the newer engine makes 355hp vs 295hp from the old whole both are 5.3L V8/. The benefits of cylinder deactivation are definitely part of the engine and not the transmission or aero.

Finally I said my newer truck gets better mpg than my older truck thanks to regulations increasing fuel economy. I don’t particularly care whether that comes from engines advancements, better aero, or improved transmissions. That was your incorrect assumption.

Now I don’t expect you to acknowledge your error. Since your posts are full of arrogant opinions you try to pass off as facts I know you’re not interested a reasoned discussion. But if it makes you feel better I do pity you for the difficultly you have with intellectual honesty.

 

[Paratus]

It's fortunate that Dorian is now cat 2 with mere 110 mph winds, max, rather than the 165 mph winds that hit the Bahamas.

It is. But a large Cat 2 can still tear up your house (ask me how I know).

Good luck to all our SE coast forum members.

 

[Puffnstuff]

Yea, it's jogged back to the Northwest and the expanding eyewall is bringing hurricane gust's onshore.

I just got up and its calm outside at the moment but that will change soon.
https://www.news4jax.com/

 

[Puffnstuff]

So far the bands seem to be breaking up as they approach Jax.

 

[Zstream]

You don’t understand what you’re talking about. Outside factors are larger overall determinants of global temperatures but as I said they are transient. If anything they have trended towards cooling in recent decades.

So while sun output may be a much larger factor in what the temperature is in any given year, its fluctuations have not been the determinant of the change in global temperature over the last 40 years because it hasn’t varied that much overall.

Do you understand better now?



Nope. US per capita emissions are much higher than Russia or China. Any good solution will involve decreasing per capita emissions, especially in heavy per capita emissions countries like the US.



Talk facts, and only facts. Just so you know you can’t make me mad so insulting me is a waste of your time.

I was simply explaining the difference between tariffs and gas taxes because you seemed to be under the silly impression they were the same. If that makes you mad that’s your business.



He was talking facts. If inconvenient facts bother you that’s your problem, not his.

Ahh yes, liberal brigade of Anandtech strikes again.. 40 years means nothing in the lifespan on earth. I won’t even go into the absurdity of believing decisions should be made over 40 years, with the historical record being well over two billions year old.

What facts did he state? His engine gets better m/g? That’s a complete farce. He doesn’t know what he’s talking about and neither do you on the subject. If you want to get into combustion engines, and how they work, along with the measuring done by the EPA I can gladly discuss that as that’s my area of expertise. Feel free to make a thread on it if you like, but don’t come in these threads acting as if you’re an expert.

Per capita emissions means nothing. China far exceeds any country in co2. Yes, I said country. It’s you that wants to destroy the economy that hundreds of thousands died for, and brought the country and its allies standard of living to something never seen before in the History of mankind.

Show your paystub, let’s see how much you’ve been taxed, or are you one of those countless trolls here that like to play with Monopoly money?

 

[Zstream]

In point of fact the newer engine makes 355hp vs 295hp from the old whole both are 5.3L V8/. The benefits of cylinder deactivation are definitely part of the engine and not the transmission or aero.

Finally I said my newer truck gets better mpg than my older truck thanks to regulations increasing fuel economy. I don’t particularly care whether that comes from engines advancements, better aero, or improved transmissions. That was your incorrect assumption.

Now I don’t expect you to acknowledge your error. Since your posts are full of arrogant opinions you try to pass off as facts I know you’re not interested a reasoned discussion. But if it makes you feel better I do pity you for the difficultly you have with intellectual honesty.

Bla bla bla

 

[Paratus]

And the point. You don’t care how things are done. Typical troll on both sides. You like feels, and never actually HOW things are done. No one seems to care HOW things are done but can vote and impact peoples lives that reach far beyond your personal feels bubble.

Lol. Ok Zstream. HOW should things work in your world. I can’t wait to hear this. Will it involve carburetors and 3 speeds on the column because direct injection six speeds are done for “feels”.

 

[fskimospy]

Ahh yes, liberal brigade of Anandtech strikes again.. 40 years means nothing in the lifespan on earth. I won’t even go into the absurdity of believing decisions should be made over 40 years, with the historical record being well over two billions year old.

I would very much like you to go into the absurdity of why you think the existence of temperature records going back billions of years means we should not act on climate change. (Also they don’t go back that far, haha)

Please, do this. Do it for me.

What facts did he state? His engine gets better m/g? That’s a complete farce. He doesn’t know what he’s talking about and neither do you on the subject. If you want to get into combustion engines, and how they work, along with the measuring done by the EPA I can gladly discuss that as that’s my area of expertise. Feel free to make a thread on it if you like, but don’t come in these threads acting as if you’re an expert.

He said his car gets better MPG, which it apparently does. It is irrelevant as to why that’s the case.

Per capita emissions means nothing. China far exceeds any country in co2. Yes, I said country.

Per capita emissions mean far more than by country and this should be common sense. Countries are simply lines drawn on a map, the climate doesn’t care what country you’re from. By your example if one person lived in country A and everyone else on the planet lived in country B, if country B’s emissions were 10% higher that should be what we focus on because per capita emissions mean nothing.

When it’s put that way do you see how stupid your argument is? This really should be common sense.

It’s you that wants to destroy the economy that hundreds of thousands died for, and brought the country and its allies standard of living to something never seen before in the History of mankind.

It’s ironic that you accuse others of arguing based on feelings and then launch into these sorts of emotional rants. As for people dying for it I spent seven years serving in defense of our country. Have you served?

You should note that I don’t think whether you served or not has any bearing on the validity of your arguments, I just find it funny how often people like to brag about the sacrifice of other people when they often haven’t put in the time themselves.

Show your paystub, let’s see how much you’ve been taxed, or are you one of those countless trolls here that like to play with Monopoly money?

The quality of someone’s ideas has literally nothing to do with how much money they make. They are either good or bad on their own merits.

The fact that you’re resorting to this sort of dick waving and personal attacks makes me think you realize on some level that you can’t argue this on the merits.

 

[zinfamous]

And the point. You don’t care how things are done. Typical troll on both sides. You like feels, and never actually HOW things are done. No one seems to care HOW things are done but can vote and impact peoples lives that reach far beyond your personal feels bubble.

...what a thing to see.

 

[Paratus]

What facts did he state? His engine gets better m/g? That’s a complete farce. He doesn’t know what he’s talking about and neither do you on the subject. If you want to get into combustion engines, and how they work, along with the measuring done by the EPA I can gladly discuss that as that’s my area of expertise. Feel free to make a thread on it if you like, but don’t come in these threads acting as if you’re an expert.

I find it quite amusing that you call my data point a farce. I record mileage and gallons every fill up. I know what mileage my cars are getting.

There’s plenty of legitimate ways to question my data. Like maybe our average drive has more highway miles now than it did with our old truck.

Should be easy to ask questions like these for someone whose supposed “expertise” is in internal combustion engines and EPA measurements.