Hunter & Joe Biden's Suspicious Activities? Investigation into influence pedding updated 7/31/23

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GodisanAtheist

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Not really tracking this conversation but if we're on root causes for Hunter being a fuck-up I'm working with the following:

-Watched mom and baby sister die in a car accident. Trauma.

-Fractured skull in same accident: literal brain damage.

-Semi-absent father working a high stress job likely dealing with his own grief: sustained emotional trauma.

-"Second Son" brother is the golden child, I'd bet good money Hunter was the source of a lot of parent teacher conferences for Biden.

-Brother and last surviving link to his biological mother gets brain cancer and dies.

-Now properly fucked up, is the son of a VP and has no qualms about using that as leverage to get ahead in the world.

I mean, Hunter is and needs to be held responsible for his actions but this idea that it's just shitty parenting from Biden or that Hunter was just a bad seed doesn't really hold water in my view. He's had a rough go of it and was likely destined for some sort of run-in with the law regardless of his father's stature or position.
 

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Not really tracking this conversation but if we're on root causes for Hunter being a fuck-up I'm working with the following:

-Watched mom and baby sister die in a car accident. Trauma.

-Fractured skull in same accident: literal brain damage.

-Semi-absent father working a high stress job likely dealing with his own grief: sustained emotional trauma.

-"Second Son" brother is the golden child, I'd bet good money Hunter was the source of a lot of parent teacher conferences for Biden.

-Brother and last surviving link to his biological mother gets brain cancer and dies.

-Now properly fucked up, is the son of a VP and has no qualms about using that as leverage to get ahead in the world.

I mean, Hunter is and needs to be held responsible for his actions but this idea that it's just shitty parenting from Biden or that Hunter was just a bad seed doesn't really hold water in my view. He's had a rough go of it and was likely destined for some sort of run-in with the law regardless of his father's stature or position.

Yeah, fair points (didn't know about the possible literal brain damage), but I still wonder if parental behaviour might be part of it. Based largely on having known politician parents who weren't that good at the latter role.
 
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Bitek

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I don't know about that, personally I find myself suspecting Joe's lacklustre parenting skills might be partly responsible. For a number of reasons I suspect politicians can be quite bad at parenting. it's a matter of focus and priorities.

That's just my personal prejudices, though, doesn't really have any political implications, other than I feel a little bit more sorry for Hunter Biden than I otherwise might. He's clearly not a good person, but I can't see it as entirely his fault. Even Donald clearly owes much of his dysfunction to his dad.

Coming from a very large extended family, I've seen plenty of screw up kids come from effectual and involved parents while their siblings were shining stars.

Each child is their own person, parents can influence a lot, but they can't always make kids what they wish.
 

cytg111

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Flaming turd is on fire.


That should settle it right? Hahaha…….
 

gothuevos

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Flaming turd is on fire.


That should settle it right? Hahaha…….

While I agree...it's also a little odd (?) that Biden was calling his son thru his business partner and not directly? And was he staying on the line when Hunter started his business dealings? So even if Biden never interacted with the other people on the line, it just comes across as awkward.

As far as impeachment, I'm surprised he hasn't been impeached already. They certainly have the votes (but not to convict/remove), might as well do it and get their base revved up, since that's all their politics are anymore.
 

MrSquished

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Looks like "The Big Guy" might have been involved in Hunter's influence peddling in Ukraine:


Fox News, the network that knowingly lies to promote a far-right wing agenda.

You have nothing positive to contribute to humanity. It's like you love to prove it.
 

FelixDeCat

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Fox News, the network that knowingly lies to promote a far-right wing agenda.

You have nothing positive to contribute to humanity. It's like you love to prove it.
Google "FD-1023 Biden" and you can read the FBI document and draw your own conclusions. It appears two separate payments were made of $5 million each ($10 million total) plus Hunters monthly retainer (which was reported earlier as $50000 per month from Burisma). He knew nothing about Oil / Gas companies.
 

MrSquished

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Google "FD-1023 Biden" and you can read the FBI document and draw your own conclusions. It appears two separate payments were made of $5 million each ($10 million total) plus Hunters monthly retainer (which was reported earlier as $50000 per month from Burisma). He knew nothing about Oil / Gas companies.

That entire document is completely unconfirmed and not verified. It's just an accusation which has not been confirmed or verified, it's not worth the paper it was written on. Why do you always insist on misrepresentation and lies, don't you have any real morals?
 

GodisanAtheist

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It's gonna be wild watching Republicans going after Biden for... Hmmm... Literally the exact same thing they voted to acquit Trump for (Withholding money in exchange for a political favor).

Unlike Republicans... Ugh... If Biden is demonstrably guilty of what he is being accused of I won't scream deep state I'll agree that he needs to be removed.
 

FelixDeCat

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It's gonna be wild watching Republicans going after Biden for... Hmmm... Literally the exact same thing they voted to acquit Trump for (Withholding money in exchange for a political favor).

Unlike Republicans... Ugh... If Biden is demonstrably guilty of what he is being accused of I won't scream deep state I'll agree that he needs to be removed.

Even though its likely they took money thinking it was okay to do this, and Joe bragged about getting the prosecutor who was going after Burisma fired, an impeachment wont lead to removal. So in the end nothing will change.

But I think its good the dirty laundry gets aired. Why Joe Biden decided to threaten to withhold $1B in aid to Ukraine if the Burisma prosecutor was not fired is beyond me. But making $10 million to do it explains a lot.
 
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MrSquished

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Even though its likely they took money thinking it was okay to do this, and Joe bragged about getting the prosecutor who was going after Burisma fired, an impeachment wont lead to removal. So in the end nothing will change.

But I think its good the dirty laundry gets aired. Why Joe Biden decided to threaten to withhold $1B in aid to Ukraine if the Burisma prosecutor was not fired is beyond me. But making $10 million to do it explains a lot.
Even when your lies are pointed out, you double down. This happens every time. This is why you are damaged goods who is irredeemable.
 

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Even though its likely they took money thinking it was okay to do this, and Joe bragged about getting the prosecutor who was going after Burisma fired, an impeachment wont lead to removal. So in the end nothing will change.

But I think its good the dirty laundry gets aired. Why Joe Biden decided to threaten to withhold $1B in aid to Ukraine if the Burisma prosecutor was not fired is beyond me. But making $10 million to do it explains a lot.
You realize Biden pushed for the prosecutor to be fired because he WASN’T investigating corruption, right?

Biden was right to brag about getting him fired. It was good governance intended to decrease corruption in Ukraine. This is unlike Trump who attempted to corrupt Ukraine’s government in order to enable further corruption in the US.

Conservatives don’t care about corruption though, as evidenced by the Trump administration. So, when you pretend to care don’t expect us to pretend to believe you.
 

eelw

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Biden a piss poor criminal since his pressure campaign to get the Ukraine prosecutor was in the open and had approval from the rest of the administration and many foreign leaderships. Guess he bribed those people also.
 

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HomerJS

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Google "FD-1023 Biden" and you can read the FBI document and draw your own conclusions. It appears two separate payments were made of $5 million each ($10 million total) plus Hunters monthly retainer (which was reported earlier as $50000 per month from Burisma). He knew nothing about Oil / Gas companies.
All you got is a Fox article that lists the top 5 allegations? Care to share with us any evidence of wrongdoing by Joe Biden? Title is nothing but clickbait.

What did the Bush girls know about TV? They got a cush job. Did Michael Powell have a communications background? Did Chelsea Clinton have a media background before she got a media corp board appointment?
Ivanka leveraged her position actually working in the government to get patents from China.

Seems the family that hasn't taken advantage of their name are the Obamas and we know people like you always think black people are up to something.

You need to try harder in your conspiracy job.

Here is an article on the takeaway of the latest "bombshell" witness. No connection to Joe Biden. If you have a story with ACTUAL EVIDENCE linking to Joe Biden let's hear it.
 
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FelixDeCat

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Interesting that you don't want Burisma investigated. I thought you guys were all about that?
Who said I didn't want that? Ukraine has had a high corruption index going back to the collapse of the Soviet Union.

Businesses even set aside money on their balance sheet for "grease" money to payoff corrupt individuals which apparently included Hunter. This is detailed in the FD 1023 statement taken by the whistle blower.
 

fskimospy

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Who said I didn't want that? Ukraine has had a high corruption index going back to the collapse of the Soviet Union.

Businesses even set aside money on their balance sheet for "grease" money to payoff corrupt individuals which apparently included Hunter. This is detailed in the FD 1023 statement taken by the whistle blower.
But Joe Biden getting the prosecutor fired made investigation of Burisma MORE likely and not less. The reason the prosecutor was fired was for NOT investigating corruption.

So now we presumably agree that Joe Biden getting that guy fired was the opposite of corruption and he should be praised for it - can you confirm?
 

HomerJS

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Who said I didn't want that? Ukraine has had a high corruption index going back to the collapse of the Soviet Union.

Businesses even set aside money on their balance sheet for "grease" money to payoff corrupt individuals which apparently included Hunter. This is detailed in the FD 1023 statement taken by the whistle blower.
What government agency did Hunter work for?
 
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