'Hundreds' of human remains found near Basra...

[Insane3D]

The coffins were stacked five deep in a warehouse, and a neighbouring building contained apparent cells and catalogues of photographs of the dead, most of whom had died from gunshot wounds to the head.

Others were mutilated beyond recognition, their faces burned and swollen in the faded black and white photographs.

Outside stood what one soldier described as "a purpose-built shooting gallery".

A tiled foot-high plinth stood in a courtyard, with the brickwork riddled with bullets, and a drainage ditch.

Inside the warehouse, one of the bags and coffins contained an identity card written in Arabic, while military webbing and boot soles were visible in others.

Inside the cells in the other building were a picture of Saddam Hussein and, ominously, what appeared to be metal hooks on racks hanging from the ceiling.

Link

:disgust:

 

[mastertech01]

Im wondering if those are the remains of the missing 600 from Kuwaiit

 

[rbV5]

Makes you wonder what other suprises are in store. Simply horrible beyond words.

 

[CJBongHit]

MSNBC has a video of it.

another source:

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/2092953/detail.html

 

[Queasy]

Waiting for French President Chirac to claim that we planted those bodies....

 

[Alistar7]

considering his past it makes you wonder why there were no inspections for possible atrocities such as this. Apparently Saddam was even more organized than Hitler in his record keeping, that's good to know.

 

[dahunan]

Here is another article with a picture of a log book (with photos of the dead) :disgust:

 

[CaptnKirk]

Could these be the 'Hanging Chads' that didn't vote for Jeb Huessein in the last election?
It's weird though.

Media will speculate all over the place on this - like when they found the acient burial vaults in Cambodia and keep showing the stacks of bones
and piles of skulls. Didn't bother to explain that some of those deceased were from over 1,000 years ago.

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Could these be the 'Hanging Chads' that didn't vote for Jeb Huessein in the last election?
It's weird though.

Media will speculate all over the place on this - like when they found the acient burial vaults in Cambodia and keep showing the stacks of bones
and piles of skulls. Didn't bother to explain that some of those deceased were from over 1,000 years ago.

Are you trying to say that these bodies were probably there before Saddam (aka. Mr. Niceguy) took over Iraq?

 

[CaptnKirk]

No, i'm pretty sure they're from his closet. I'm saying the media (Especially Fox) will sensationalize it to sell copy.
Why do I finger Fox ? - Rupert Murcoch has a chain of media whores who make their living by sensationalizing !
Report something sensational even if its not fact - make it up if you want. He owns the Sun and the Mirror tabloids.
Do you belive the stuff that rags like National Inquirer, Mirror, and Sun spew out for the mindless society of the
great unwashed ? Almost everything Fox claimed in their headliners was disproved within 24 hours - no retractions.

 

[dahunan]

Sorry bout that..

I didn't realize he owned those tabloids..

 

[Morph]

"I wouldn't like to speculate, but the bones inside are obviously years old. It is certainly not from the recent conflict but it could be from the one before."

Did you ever consider these might be unidentified victims of the last Gulf war?

 

[CaptnKirk]

This may be one of the 'Perks' that come with retiring from the Iraqi Army.
Their version of Arlington National Cemetary.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Morph

"I wouldn't like to speculate, but the bones inside are obviously years old. It is certainly not from the recent conflict but it could be from the one before."

Did you ever consider these might be unidentified victims of the last Gulf war?

That's what they appear to be. Forensic Pathologists are going to examine the bodies and translaters are on the way to go over the logs. Possibly Shiites from the uprising against Saddam at the end of the 1991 Gulf War.

 

[Morph]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Morph

"I wouldn't like to speculate, but the bones inside are obviously years old. It is certainly not from the recent conflict but it could be from the one before."

Did you ever consider these might be unidentified victims of the last Gulf war?

That's what they appear to be. Forensic Pathologists are going to examine the bodies and translaters are on the way to go over the logs. Possibly Shiites from the uprising against Saddam at the end of the 1991 Gulf War.

Ah, so you just automatically assume that these are people that were executed by Saddam's regime. I don't suppose it's possible that they are just some of the 100,000+ Iraqis that we killed with our bombings during the first gulf war.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Morph

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Morph

"I wouldn't like to speculate, but the bones inside are obviously years old. It is certainly not from the recent conflict but it could be from the one before."

Did you ever consider these might be unidentified victims of the last Gulf war?

That's what they appear to be. Forensic Pathologists are going to examine the bodies and translaters are on the way to go over the logs. Possibly Shiites from the uprising against Saddam at the end of the 1991 Gulf War.

Ah, so you just automatically assume that these are people that were executed by Saddam's regime. I don't suppose it's possible that they are just some of the 100,000+ Iraqis that we killed with our bombings during the first gulf war.

Ah, so you just automatically assume that these are people that were killed by coalition bombins in the first Gulf War? I don't suppose it's possible the logs showing names and styles of executions were from Saddam's regime?

Morph, seriously, stop posting. You have become a bore and are proving yourself to be a troll. You have continually refused to answer questions I have posed to you as to your alternatives to this war. How much were you protesting when Clinton called for cruise missile strikes against Saddam's regime in 1998? How much were you protesting when Clinton called for air strikes in Kosovo in 1999? How much were you protesting over our involvement in Somalia?

Until you answer those questions, STFU.

 

[etech]

Originally posted by: Morph

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Morph

"I wouldn't like to speculate, but the bones inside are obviously years old. It is certainly not from the recent conflict but it could be from the one before."

Did you ever consider these might be unidentified victims of the last Gulf war?

That's what they appear to be. Forensic Pathologists are going to examine the bodies and translaters are on the way to go over the logs. Possibly Shiites from the uprising against Saddam at the end of the 1991 Gulf War.

Ah, so you just automatically assume that these are people that were executed by Saddam's regime. I don't suppose it's possible that they are just some of the 100,000+ Iraqis that we killed with our bombings during the first gulf war.

According to the news on TV
Nope, not when there was a journal found with the bodies that details how they were executed, ie. "gunshot to the head"

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: Morph

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Morph

"I wouldn't like to speculate, but the bones inside are obviously years old. It is certainly not from the recent conflict but it could be from the one before."

Did you ever consider these might be unidentified victims of the last Gulf war?

That's what they appear to be. Forensic Pathologists are going to examine the bodies and translaters are on the way to go over the logs. Possibly Shiites from the uprising against Saddam at the end of the 1991 Gulf War.

Ah, so you just automatically assume that these are people that were executed by Saddam's regime. I don't suppose it's possible that they are just some of the 100,000+ Iraqis that we killed with our bombings during the first gulf war.

You know Morph, conjur gave you some curteousy by backing you up with your statement that they most likely are from the last Gulf War, then states a possibility of what they could be from around that time period. Then you go on to blast him about it, and give a possibility of your own accord?

So you automatically assume there people weren't executed by Saddam's regime. I don't suppose it's possible that they are just some of the 100,000+ Iraqis that Saddam killed after the first gulf war and then next few years after.

 

[conjur]

From here

Outside the warehouse was a wall dotted with a spray of bullet holes, most at head height. Tiny concrete cells were discovered nearby.

 

[etech]

BBC British find 'makeshift morgue'

There are some possibilites, Morph's trolling question is not one of them.

1)"The BBC's Ben Brown said local people had told him the remains were of Iraqi soldiers killed in the 1980-88 Iran-Iraq war, recently returned from Tehran. "

2)"Hania Mufti of Human Rights Watch told the BBC it was possible the remains were of military or political enemies of Saddam Hussein. "They were probably military personnel. It could be either persons who were accused or suspected of plotting against the Iraqi government or suspected of some other anti-government activity." "

3)"They could also have been victims of the failed Basra uprising against the Iraqi regime at the end of the first Gulf War in 1991, she said.

"From 1991 onwards there have been thousands of executions that have taken place after the uprising.

"It is possible that these may date back to 1991 when the uprising took place, or during the subsequent round-up of persons suspected of taking part - civilians or military personnel.""

 

[Morph]

Originally posted by: BigJ2078

You know Morph, conjur gave you some curteousy by backing you up with your statement that they most likely are from the last Gulf War, then states a possibility of what they could be from around that time period. Then you go on to blast him about it, and give a possibility of your own accord?

So you automatically assume there people weren't executed by Saddam's regime. I don't suppose it's possible that they are just some of the 100,000+ Iraqis that Saddam killed after the first gulf war and then next few years after.

I'm not making any assumptions or coming to any conclusions. I'm only offering alternative explanations. It bothers me a little when someone jumps straight to the most sensationalistic explanation and starts jumping on the Saddam=Hitler bandwagon, automatically assuming the most horrendous, evil acts by Saddam's regime to explain any situation.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Morph

I'm not making any assumptions or coming to any conclusions. I'm only offering alternative explanations. It bothers me a little when someone jumps straight to the most sensationalistic explanation and starts jumping on the Saddam=Hitler bandwagon, automatically assuming the most horrendous, evil acts by Saddam's regime to explain any situation.

Your jaded sensibilities have affected your reading comprehension.

I said possibly. And if you'd bother to check any of the network news channels and read other posts in this thread, your bias might be lifted a little.

Anyway...I'm through with you. You are nothing but a troll.

 

[NightTrain]

Originally posted by: Morph

Originally posted by: BigJ2078

You know Morph, conjur gave you some curteousy by backing you up with your statement that they most likely are from the last Gulf War, then states a possibility of what they could be from around that time period. Then you go on to blast him about it, and give a possibility of your own accord?

So you automatically assume there people weren't executed by Saddam's regime. I don't suppose it's possible that they are just some of the 100,000+ Iraqis that Saddam killed after the first gulf war and then next few years after.

I'm not making any assumptions or coming to any conclusions. I'm only offering alternative explanations. It bothers me a little when someone jumps straight to the most sensationalistic explanation and starts jumping on the Saddam=Hitler bandwagon, automatically assuming the most horrendous, evil acts by Saddam's regime to explain any situation.

Of course you apply this standard only when Saddam is being accused. You fly with anything leveled against the coalition.

You sound like the Iraqi Minister of Information.

 

[Emos]

Ah, so you just automatically assume that these are people that were executed by Saddam's regime. I don't suppose it's possible that they are just some of the 100,000+ Iraqis that we killed with our bombings during the first gulf war

Wow...I didn't realize that we had bombs that performed point-blank headshots!

 

[SpideyCU]

I didn't realize that
"Forensic Pathologists are going to examine the bodies and translaters are on the way to go over the logs. Possibly Shiites from the uprising against Saddam at the end of the 1991 Gulf War"
equals
"jumps straight to the most sensationalistic explanation".

I do believe this fits "troll" to a T. You're not even attacking people on stupid points anymore with your usual one-liner snide remarks. Now you're twisting words to suit your own needs. And just like conjur said, you're avoiding his legitimate questions, only stepping in to toss in some wise-ass post now and then.

By the way, love your sig. I wonder how foolish we could make you look by taking out one or two sentences without showing the context they were used in, or heck, even the way in which they were used at all. But, hey, that's a lot more fun than trying to have a credible debate anyhow.