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Human Shredder?

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Ultima

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Human Shredder

There was a machine designed for shredding plastic. Men were dropped into it and we were again made to watch. Sometimes they went in head first and died quickly. Sometimes they went in feet first and died screaming. It was horrible. I saw 30 people die like this. Their remains would be placed in plastic bags and we were told they would be used as fish food . . . on one occasion, I saw Qusay [President Saddam Hussein?s youngest son] personally supervise these murders.?

That sounds almost medieval. Pretty sick, if you ask me.
 
Originally posted by: SuperTool
PICS?
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Fifth step: show this enemy in actions that seem strange, militant, or different.
Always portray the enemy as non-human, evil, a killing machine.
 
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Fifth step: show this enemy in actions that seem strange, militant, or different.
Always portray the enemy as non-human, evil, a killing machine.
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What're the other steps?
 
Propaganda is a wonderful thing.

I'm sure in Iraq they're talking about how us Americans have these chairs that are charged up with thousands of volts and we make people sit on them. Or that we have these rooms that we lock people in and fill it with gas until the victim is dead..
 
Originally posted by: Deslocke
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Fifth step: show this enemy in actions that seem strange, militant, or different.
Always portray the enemy as non-human, evil, a killing machine.
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What're the other steps?
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check out anti-flag's anatomy of your enemy
 
"Anatomy Of Your Enemy"

10 easy steps to create an enemy and start a war:
Listen closely because we will all see this weapon used in our lives.
It can be used on a society of the most ignorant to the most highly educated.
We need to see their tactics as a weapon against humanity and not as truth.

First step: create the enemy. Sometimes this will be done for you.

Second step: be sure the enemy you have chosen is nothing like you.
Find obvious differences like race, language, religion, dietary habits
fashion. Emphasize that their soldiers are not doing a job,
they are heartless murderers who enjoy killing!

Third step: Once these differences are established continue to reinforce them
with all disseminated information.

Fourth step: Have the media broadcast only the ruling party's information
this can be done through state run media.
Remember, in times of conflict all for-profit media repeats the ruling party's information.
Therefore all for-profit media becomes state-run.

Fifth step: show this enemy in actions that seem strange, militant, or different.
Always portray the enemy as non-human, evil, a killing machine.

[Chorus:]
THIS IS HOW TO CREATE AN ENEMY. THIS IS HOW TO START A WAR.
THIS IS HOW TO CREATE AN ENEMY.

Sixth step: Eliminate opposition to the ruling party.
Create an "Us versus Them" mentality. Leave no room for opinions in between.
One that does not support all actions of the ruling party should be considered a traitor.

Seventh step: Use nationalistic and/or religious symbols and rhetoric to define all actions.
This can be achieved by slogans such as "freedom loving people versus those who hate freedom."
This can also be achieved by the use of flags.

Eighth step: Align all actions with the dominant deity.
It is very effective to use terms like, "It is god's will" or "god bless our nation."

Ninth step: Design propaganda to show that your soldiers
have feelings, hopes, families, and loved ones.
Make it clear that your soldiers are doing a duty; they do not want or like to kill.

Tenth step: Create and atmosphere of fear, and instability
and then offer the ruling party as the only solutions to comfort the public's fears.
Remembering the fear of the unknown is always the strongest fear.

[Chorus (repeat)]

We are not countries. We are not nations. We are not religions.
We are not gods. We are not weapons. We are not ammunition. We are not killers.
We will NOT be tools.

I will not die
I will not kill
I will not be your slave
I will not fight your battle
I will not die on your battlefield
I will not fight for your world
I am not a fighter
I'm in UNITYYY!!!
 
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Fifth step: show this enemy in actions that seem strange, militant, or different.
Always portray the enemy as non-human, evil, a killing machine.
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Hmm, "Portray" this enemy in actions that seem, strange, militant, or different.

CorporateRecreation if that's your attempt at diminishing the fcking sickness that is Saddam - you've given yourself to too much of your own "Recreation". "seem strange, militant or different" ???? SEEM!?. Man, do the world a favor and super glue that crack pipe to that whole that is your mouth.

Originally posted by: Syringer
Propaganda is a wonderful thing.

I'm sure in Iraq they're talking about how us Americans have these chairs that are charged up with thousands of volts and we make people sit on them. Or that we have these rooms that we lock people in and fill it with gas until the victim is dead..
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You're NOT really comparing Saddam's cruelty and U.S. Capitol punishment... Oh, yes you are. I suppose you overlook the fact that Saddam's victims are at times simply those who disagree with him, or the nature of the punishment, or the purpose - eh, nevermind. If you've confused the difference already, no further discourse will enlighten that thinking.

You flock of chirping birds...

 
Originally posted by: Sketcher
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Fifth step: show this enemy in actions that seem strange, militant, or different.
Always portray the enemy as non-human, evil, a killing machine.
Click to expand...
Hmm, "Portray" this enemy in actions that seem, strange, militant, or different.

CorporateRecreation if that's your attempt at diminishing the fcking sickness that is Saddam - you've given yourself to too much of your own "Recreation". "seem strange, militant or different" ???? SEEM!?. Man, do the world a favor and super glue that crack pipe to that whole that is your mouth.

You flock of chirping birds...
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god you are an idiot, I won't even dignify your personal attack with a proper 'fück you' in response.
 
Jees... do they just slowly fall in as their bones and limbs are crushed toe to head or is it a simple drop and they're instantly fish food?
 
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Originally posted by: Sketcher
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Fifth step: show this enemy in actions that seem strange, militant, or different.
Always portray the enemy as non-human, evil, a killing machine.
Click to expand...
Hmm, "Portray" this enemy in actions that seem, strange, militant, or different.

CorporateRecreation if that's your attempt at diminishing the fcking sickness that is Saddam - you've given yourself to too much of your own "Recreation". "seem strange, militant or different" ???? SEEM!?. Man, do the world a favor and super glue that crack pipe to that whole that is your mouth.

You flock of chirping birds...
Click to expand...

god you are an idiot, I won't even dignify your personal attack with a proper 'fück you' in response.
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eh, that's alright. your response dignified mine just fine. Thanks.

 
Originally posted by: Sketcher
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Originally posted by: Sketcher
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Fifth step: show this enemy in actions that seem strange, militant, or different.
Always portray the enemy as non-human, evil, a killing machine.
Click to expand...
Hmm, "Portray" this enemy in actions that seem, strange, militant, or different.

CorporateRecreation if that's your attempt at diminishing the fcking sickness that is Saddam - you've given yourself to too much of your own "Recreation". "seem strange, militant or different" ???? SEEM!?. Man, do the world a favor and super glue that crack pipe to that whole that is your mouth.

You flock of chirping birds...
Click to expand...

god you are an idiot, I won't even dignify your personal attack with a proper 'fück you' in response.
Click to expand...
eh, that's alright. your response dignified mine just fine. Thanks.
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Sixth step: Eliminate opposition to the ruling party.
Create an "Us versus Them" mentality. Leave no room for opinions in between.
One that does not support all actions of the ruling party should be considered a traitor.

 
Perhaps that song itself is propoganda to make you believe that the powers that be are distorting the truth more than they really are .. ?
 
Originally posted by: Deslocke
Perhaps that song itself is propoganda to make you believe that the powers that be are distorting the truth more than they really are .. ?
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look up the word satire
 
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Originally posted by: Sketcher
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Originally posted by: Sketcher
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Fifth step: show this enemy in actions that seem strange, militant, or different.
Always portray the enemy as non-human, evil, a killing machine.
Click to expand...
Hmm, "Portray" this enemy in actions that seem, strange, militant, or different.

CorporateRecreation if that's your attempt at diminishing the fcking sickness that is Saddam - you've given yourself to too much of your own "Recreation". "seem strange, militant or different" ???? SEEM!?. Man, do the world a favor and super glue that crack pipe to that whole that is your mouth.

You flock of chirping birds...
Click to expand...

god you are an idiot, I won't even dignify your personal attack with a proper 'fück you' in response.
Click to expand...
eh, that's alright. your response dignified mine just fine. Thanks.
Click to expand...


Sixth step: Eliminate opposition to the ruling party.
Create an "Us versus Them" mentality. Leave no room for opinions in between.
One that does not support all actions of the ruling party should be considered a traitor.
Click to expand...
?There was a machine designed for shredding plastic. Men were dropped into it and we were again made to watch. Sometimes they went in head first and died quickly. Sometimes they went in feet first and died screaming. It was horrible. I saw 30 people die like this. Their remains would be placed in plastic bags and we were told they would be used as fish food . . . on one occasion, I saw Qusay [President Saddam Hussein?s youngest son] personally supervise these murders.?

"This is one of the many witness statements that were taken by researchers from Indict ? the organisation I chair ? to provide evidence for legal cases against specific Iraqi individuals for war crimes, crimes against humanity and genocide. This account was taken in the past two weeks. "

Did you read the article? There's no "Portrayal" going on here that describes Saddam other than he is regarding these witness accounts (not third hand, fourth hand, someone I know thought they heard someone said they saw..). Your spouting denial of the legitimacy of what's written in that article by your 12 step program warrants an accusation as sharply as I've given you.


 
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Originally posted by: Deslocke
Perhaps that song itself is propoganda to make you believe that the powers that be are distorting the truth more than they really are .. ?
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look up the word satire
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*looks up satire (even though I know what it means
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)*

*wonders what the point of that was*

EDIT: stupid smilies
 
Originally posted by: Sketcher
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Originally posted by: Sketcher
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Originally posted by: Sketcher
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Fifth step: show this enemy in actions that seem strange, militant, or different.
Always portray the enemy as non-human, evil, a killing machine.
Click to expand...
Hmm, "Portray" this enemy in actions that seem, strange, militant, or different.

CorporateRecreation if that's your attempt at diminishing the fcking sickness that is Saddam - you've given yourself to too much of your own "Recreation". "seem strange, militant or different" ???? SEEM!?. Man, do the world a favor and super glue that crack pipe to that whole that is your mouth.

You flock of chirping birds...
Click to expand...

god you are an idiot, I won't even dignify your personal attack with a proper 'fück you' in response.
Click to expand...
eh, that's alright. your response dignified mine just fine. Thanks.
Click to expand...


Sixth step: Eliminate opposition to the ruling party.
Create an "Us versus Them" mentality. Leave no room for opinions in between.
One that does not support all actions of the ruling party should be considered a traitor.
Click to expand...
?There was a machine designed for shredding plastic. Men were dropped into it and we were again made to watch. Sometimes they went in head first and died quickly. Sometimes they went in feet first and died screaming. It was horrible. I saw 30 people die like this. Their remains would be placed in plastic bags and we were told they would be used as fish food . . . on one occasion, I saw Qusay [President Saddam Hussein?s youngest son] personally supervise these murders.?

This is one of the many witness statements that were taken by researchers from Indict ? the organisation I chair ? to provide evidence for legal cases against specific Iraqi individuals for war crimes, crimes against humanity and genocide. This account was taken in the past two weeks.

Did you read the article? There's no "Portrayal" going on here that describes Saddam other than he is regarding these witness accounts (not third hand, fourth hand, someone I know thought they heard someone said they saw..). Your spouting denial of the legitimacy of what's written in that article by your 12 step program warrants an accusation as sharply as I've given you.
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It was 10 steps, and it was a humourous song that you took seriously. Why do you believe everything that's printed without actually considering it.
 
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