Human brain more complex than imagined

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moonbogg

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An excerpt from the link http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/iage/201402/complexity-our-brain

"The adult human male brain has 86 billion neurons--more than any other primate. Each neuron has between 1,000 to 10,000 synapses that result in 125 trillion synapses in the cerebral cortex alone. That is at least 1,000 times the number of stars in our galaxy. Stephen Smith from Stanford University reported that one synapse might contain some 1,000 molecular-scale switches. That is over 125,000 trillion switches in a single human brain."

OK, that is completely ridiculous. It is said, based on numbers like these, that,

"One synapse, by itself, is more like a microprocessor--with both memory-storage and information-processing elements--than a mere on/off switch. In fact, one synapse may contain on the order of 1,000 molecular-scale switches. A single human brain has more switches than all the computers and routers and Internet connections on Earth."

In the below image, the large green blobs are individual neurons, so this is a several neuron wide, extreme magnification of a tiny piece of brain. The tiny dots and strings are synapses and their vast network of connections. Apparently, all of that tangled mess has function which results in you being able to read this thread, and even more astonishing, to know you are reading it.



Now, multiply those neurons in that image to over 80 billion and then try to come to grips with how such a vast system might work. Its hard to imagine ever fully understanding such a system, but I am confident that day will come.
 

master_shake_

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i wouldn't say reading it, more like recognizing shapes you've seen before and transferring them in to sounds you know.
 

SMOGZINN

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A single human brain has more switches than all the computers and routers and Internet connections on Earth."

Mario Garrett might be a very good neurologist, but he is a pretty crappy computer scientist. A single Kaveri APU has 2.41 billion switches. So, if AMD makes ~51k of them there will be more switches in just that processor line then in a human brain.

In fact every Intel CPU sold since around 2011 Sandy Bridge release has had over 1 billion switches per processor. I'm willing to bet there is more computer switches in the room I'm sitting in then in a average human brain.

If Moore's Law holds we should have single processors with more switches then the human brain in ~24 years, and probably multi-CPU configurations at least that powerful within the next 10 years.
 

moonbogg

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Mario Garrett might be a very good neurologist, but he is a pretty crappy computer scientist. A single Kaveri APU has 2.41 billion switches. So, if AMD makes ~51k of them there will be more switches in just that processor line then in a human brain.

In fact every Intel CPU sold since around 2011 Sandy Bridge release has had over 1 billion switches per processor. I'm willing to bet there is more computer switches in the room I'm sitting in then in a average human brain.

If Moore's Law holds we should have single processors with more switches then the human brain in ~24 years, and probably multi-CPU configurations at least that powerful within the next 10 years.

Yeah that's true. I guess it depends on what you call a switch. Maybe he didn't include each transistor in order to make the article sound more interesting for the wow factor. I'm still pretty shocked though.
 

JEDIYoda

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Mario Garrett might be a very good neurologist, but he is a pretty crappy computer scientist. A single Kaveri APU has 2.41 billion switches. So, if AMD makes ~51k of them there will be more switches in just that processor line then in a human brain.

In fact every Intel CPU sold since around 2011 Sandy Bridge release has had over 1 billion switches per processor. I'm willing to bet there is more computer switches in the room I'm sitting in then in a average human brain.

If Moore's Law holds we should have single processors with more switches then the human brain in ~24 years, and probably multi-CPU configurations at least that powerful within the next 10 years.
rofl@SMOGZINN for even feeling that he is worthy to comment on Mario Garrett....
 

Mark R

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Mario Garrett might be a very good neurologist, but he is a pretty crappy computer scientist. A single Kaveri APU has 2.41 billion switches. So, if AMD makes ~51k of them there will be more switches in just that processor line then in a human brain.
You mean 51 million, not 51k.

But you're right, the comparison to all the computers on earth is nonsense.
 

Sulaco

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Mario Garrett might be a very good neurologist, but he is a pretty crappy computer scientist...

This is not accurate. Let's be very clear:

Mario Garrett is a pHD in Psychology, he is NOT an M.D. and most definitely not a neurologist.
 

Onceler

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there is some evidence(I can't remember where it is) according to an article that the glia cells also process information in the brain.
 

mrcharles

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The brain will unfortunately be dust in the wind. Its a great evolutionary accomplishment, but like all things, will disappear. We should stop striving for perfection.
 
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