Hugs with Lions

nublikescake

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Originally posted by: miri
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oEYH7m1cmo

lol at the hyena at the end trying to play

LOL indeed. But it's only a matter of time before he's dinner. I saw a documentary not too long ago about lion trainers and they mentioned something about 80% of all lion trainers dying on the job.

Animals are animals. You can't expect them to "understand" you all the time.
 

destrekor

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Originally posted by: nublikescake
Originally posted by: miri
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oEYH7m1cmo

lol at the hyena at the end trying to play

LOL indeed. But it's only a matter of time before he's dinner. I saw a documentary not too long ago about lion trainers and they mentioned something about 80% of all lion trainers dying on the job.

Animals are animals. You can't expect them to "understand" you all the time.

animals are animals, but many can develop bonds with humans. Most animal trainer deaths around the world are accidents, with the animal not knowing its own strength/our fragility.

We are extremely fragile compared to just about every other large animal in the world. Playing rough can often result in oops, dead human.
 

lxskllr

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My tomcat plays rough. I'd have been dead a couple of years ago if he were a lion :^D
 

se7en

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So what happens when said lion gets frisky? How do you tell a lion "not tonight I have a headache"?
 

nublikescake

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Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: nublikescake
Originally posted by: miri
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oEYH7m1cmo

lol at the hyena at the end trying to play

LOL indeed. But it's only a matter of time before he's dinner. I saw a documentary not too long ago about lion trainers and they mentioned something about 80% of all lion trainers dying on the job.

Animals are animals. You can't expect them to "understand" you all the time.

Most animal trainer deaths around the world are accidents, with the animal not knowing its own strength/our fragility.

Hence my point. :)
 

Red Squirrel

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Haha that is awesome! Imagine having that in the house as a "house cat". Really, a baby raised that way right from birth would probably turn out ok and have a really good bond. This is probably how these are so well bonded with the guy. But yeah, they are way stronger then we are and they can accidentally kill or seriously injure us when playing.
 

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That dudes fixin to be lion shit about 24 hrs after one decides its hungry.....

Siegfried and Roy style.....

 

destrekor

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Originally posted by: nublikescake
Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: nublikescake
Originally posted by: miri
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oEYH7m1cmo

lol at the hyena at the end trying to play

LOL indeed. But it's only a matter of time before he's dinner. I saw a documentary not too long ago about lion trainers and they mentioned something about 80% of all lion trainers dying on the job.

Animals are animals. You can't expect them to "understand" you all the time.

Most animal trainer deaths around the world are accidents, with the animal not knowing its own strength/our fragility.

Hence my point. :)

Well... what I took out of your original post was that animals don't understand bonding with humans.

All the stories of animal trainers, whether good or bad, I take something else out of it.
The animals enjoy the bond with humans, and are extremely affectionate, and quite a few videos have shown. And they have a remarkable ability to remember those they had a bond with, even without seeing them for a long time.
The accidents happen simply when they get too excited, or very protective of a human, and don't understand they can't treat a human in the same fashion as one of their own.

Same happened with that Siegfried (or was it Roy) guy... many have come out and stated they believe the animal felt the guy was in danger, possibly the animal saw signs that a stroke was beginning to happen (this has been documented that animals can sense these things with their owners), and went for the neck like one would with a cub. Just... our skin isn't as tough.
It could still very well have been a freak animal reaction too, as these do happen, even with our pets such as dogs. Very rare that those reactions happen though.

I mean, we can witness the same thing with dogs too. We play with them, and they can be rough in showing their affection and excitement, but they are smaller animals and the results are rarely serious. Just rough playing with your dog can result in an actual bite wound, dog didn't mean it though, they just play with their teeth, it how they do things... and they won't realize their own capabilities or our weak skin until "ouch!".
It takes a few of those, and the fear of the dog of what just happened, for the dog to begin to realize the limits to what it can and cannot do in terms of bite pressure during playtime.
We can live with that, because the consequences are rarely serious. In larger animals, like lions... it takes one accidental bite... rarely is there a chance to learn. And because of the chances of the next bite still being life threatening, we never let take that chance and the animal is often put down or kept away from handlers.
 

lxskllr

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Originally posted by: thescreensavers
Thats lion guy has a spray bottle on him, I wonder whats in there lol.

Bad Kitty!! Down! Get The Fuck Off The Screen Door!!!!
 

Jeff7

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Originally posted by: destrekor
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I mean, we can witness the same thing with dogs too. We play with them, and they can be rough in showing their affection and excitement, but they are smaller animals and the results are rarely serious. Just rough playing with your dog can result in an actual bite wound, dog didn't mean it though, they just play with their teeth, it how they do things... and they won't realize their own capabilities or our weak skin until "ouch!".
It takes a few of those, and the fear of the dog of what just happened, for the dog to begin to realize the limits to what it can and cannot do in terms of bite pressure during playtime.
We can live with that, because the consequences are rarely serious. In larger animals, like lions... it takes one accidental bite... rarely is there a chance to learn. And because of the chances of the next bite still being life threatening, we never let take that chance and the animal is often put down or kept away from handlers.
I seem to remember that someone here mentioned an incident with his dog:
It was having a dream, and it suddenly woke up and bit him. He yelled in pain, and the dog suddenly looked shocked, and jumped down on the floor with its tail between its legs, like it knew it had just screwed up big time.
"Oh shit, I just attacked God."

 

destrekor

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Originally posted by: Jeff7
Originally posted by: destrekor
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I mean, we can witness the same thing with dogs too. We play with them, and they can be rough in showing their affection and excitement, but they are smaller animals and the results are rarely serious. Just rough playing with your dog can result in an actual bite wound, dog didn't mean it though, they just play with their teeth, it how they do things... and they won't realize their own capabilities or our weak skin until "ouch!".
It takes a few of those, and the fear of the dog of what just happened, for the dog to begin to realize the limits to what it can and cannot do in terms of bite pressure during playtime.
We can live with that, because the consequences are rarely serious. In larger animals, like lions... it takes one accidental bite... rarely is there a chance to learn. And because of the chances of the next bite still being life threatening, we never let take that chance and the animal is often put down or kept away from handlers.
I seem to remember that someone here mentioned an incident with his dog:
It was having a dream, and it suddenly woke up and bit him. He yelled in pain, and the dog suddenly looked shocked, and jumped down on the floor with its tail between its legs, like it knew it had just screwed up big time.
"Oh shit, I just attacked God."

Yeah... not a good idea to wake up a dog having a dream when you're within biting reach.

My puppy did that, fell asleep right in front of my pillow. Wasn't dreaming, or at least, wasn't appearing to, but she was asleep. I kind of started pushing her to the side so you know... the human could sleep on the bed. Damn girl snapped her head toward my hand and put her teeth on me. Didn't bite, at least, didn't get the ability to clamp down as I reacted fast. I wasn't happy, but also I can't blame her... being violently woken up isn't something any animal likes. I sure as hell don't. :p

A dog will realize what's happening after the initial split second instinctual reaction, and behave accordingly. I'll never punish a dog for reacting in that situation, just let it know you don't approve, and also know what you did is just as much a mistake as what the dog did. :)