Hugo Chavez offers to pose topless

[ProfJohn]

Ok, this is good for a laugh if nothing else.

I wonder which P&N member is most likely to buy Hugo's upcoming calendar.

Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez in an interview with supermodel Naomi Campbell predicted that the U.S "empire" is about to fall, called Jesus Christ history's No. 1 revolutionary -- and offered to pose topless.

"Why not? Touch my muscles!" the burly, 53 year-old former paratrooper said, when asked if he would follow the example of Russian President Vladimir Putin, who caused a stir last year with a series of shirtless pictures.An English actress and model of Jamaican heritage, Campbell was hired by the British edition of GQ magazine to interview the left-wing leader, who is known for his tirades against the United States.

In the article, to be published on Thursday, Campbell describes Chavez as a "rebel angel," praises his singing voice and chats with him about the Spice Girls.

"I have memories of them," he said, before moving on to more familiar ground criticizing Washington, which he predicted would dramatically lose influence in the next few years.

Chavez, who says he is leading a socialist revolution that he hopes will one day unite Latin America, said he was a devout Christian and that Jesus Christ was "the greatest revolutionary in history, for defending the poor against the powerful."

Chavez, in power since 1999, is liked by many Venezuelans for his folksy, off-the-cuff delivery, but the opposition says his quirky style has often distracted him from the basic tasks of government such as fighting crime.

Campbell, 37, met Chavez three times. She joins a growing list of stars who have dropped by to visit the charismatic leader in the South American oil-exporting nation. Last year he also received actor Sean Penn and film director Oliver Stone.

The model, known for her fiery temper, said last year she was turning over a new leaf after doing community service for throwing a phone at her maid. She hopes to interview more world figures, including Chavez's friend, Cuban leader Fidel Castro.

Chavez said Castro's dress sense made him the world's most stylish leader.

"His uniform is impeccable. His boots are polished, his beard is elegant," he said, of the ailing octogenarian.

BTW Campbell is another idiot liberal star who has fallen for the 'blight of the people' populist BS that Chavez uses to hold and extend his power over the people.

 

[bamacre]

Where is steeplerot when you need him?

 

[Drift3r]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
BTW Campbell is another idiot liberal star who has fallen for the 'blight of the people' populist BS that Chavez uses to hold and extend his power over the people.

Hard to say that when he loses an election and then says he'll step down once his term is up.

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: Drift3r

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
BTW Campbell is another idiot liberal star who has fallen for the 'blight of the people' populist BS that Chavez uses to hold and extend his power over the people.

Hard to say that when he loses an election and then says he'll step down once his term is up.

Did you miss the story where he tried to change the outcome of the election and the military refused to go along so they just changed the result to make it look like he only lost by a bit?

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: bamacre
Where is steeplerot when you need him?

:laugh:

No, really, I lol'ed...

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Did you miss the story where he tried to change the outcome of the election and the military refused to go along so they just changed the result to make it look like he only lost by a bit?

Where did you get this story from?

 

[philipuso]

Did you miss the story where he tried to change the outcome of the election and the military refused to go along so they just changed the result to make it look like he only lost by a bit?

Did you miss the story of the latest CIA attempt to overthrow Chavez??

New CIA Operation To Overthrow Chavez Exposed

Officer Steere emphasizes the importance and success of the public relations and propaganda campaign that the CIA has been funding with more than $8 million during the past month - funds that the CIA confirms are transfered through the USAID contracted company, Development Alternatives, Inc., which set up operations in June 2002 to run the USAID Office for Transition Initiatives that funds and advises opposition NGOs and political parties in Venezuela. The CIA memo specifically refers to these propaganda initiatives as "psychological operations" (PSYOPS), that include contracting polling companies to create fraudulent polls that show the NO vote with an advantage over the SI vote, which is false. The CIA also confirms in the memo that it is working with international press agencies to distort the data and information about the referendum, and that it coordinates in Venezuela with a team of journalists and media organized and directed by the President of Globovision, Alberto Federico Ravell.

I wonder what the USA's domestic budget for propaganda is?? Obviously it's quite successful.

 

[Vic]

The USA doesn't have a "domestic budget" for propaganda. Under capitalism and democracy, propaganda is the most profitable product there is. It's the authoritarian agendas that find selling the people to be a hard sell.

 

[miketheidiot]

chaves is my favorite third world semi-dictator.

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: philipuso

Did you miss the story where he tried to change the outcome of the election and the military refused to go along so they just changed the result to make it look like he only lost by a bit?

Did you miss the story of the latest CIA attempt to overthrow Chavez??

New CIA Operation To Overthrow Chavez Exposed

Officer Steere emphasizes the importance and success of the public relations and propaganda campaign that the CIA has been funding with more than $8 million during the past month - funds that the CIA confirms are transfered through the USAID contracted company, Development Alternatives, Inc., which set up operations in June 2002 to run the USAID Office for Transition Initiatives that funds and advises opposition NGOs and political parties in Venezuela. The CIA memo specifically refers to these propaganda initiatives as "psychological operations" (PSYOPS), that include contracting polling companies to create fraudulent polls that show the NO vote with an advantage over the SI vote, which is false. The CIA also confirms in the memo that it is working with international press agencies to distort the data and information about the referendum, and that it coordinates in Venezuela with a team of journalists and media organized and directed by the President of Globovision, Alberto Federico Ravell.

I wonder what the USA's domestic budget for propaganda is?? Obviously it's quite successful.

Why do you live in the US?

 

[philipuso]

Why do you live in the US?

Why not inform the American citizens about their country's past. A country that has the most influence all over the world. Change within is more effective than change from outside the borders.

If only the founders realized that when they chose to escape King George the III and immigrate to North America wiping out hundreds of thousands of native americans and taking their homeland.

 

[philipuso]

Heres a start to your American History lesson:

Engineering of Consent: guatemala coup 1954

CIA coup of 1954 from the doc.,"A Coup: Made in America"Pt 1-6

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: Vic
The USA doesn't have a "domestic budget" for propaganda. Under capitalism and democracy, propaganda is the most profitable product there is. It's the authoritarian agendas that find selling the people to be a hard sell.

i bet if you ran through the cia's or dod's budgets you might find some interesting things. Not to mention the office of the president.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: bamacre
Where is steeplerot when you need him?

:thumbsup:

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Ok, this is good for a laugh if nothing else.

It's not even good for a laugh, at best a :roll: but that's about it.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Ok, this is good for a laugh if nothing else.

It's not even good for a laugh, at best a :roll: but that's about it.

it's great to discover our new steeplerot replacement though... philipuso is one step away from declaring Chavez as King of the Socialist Universe!

Good stuff! Hopefully, he'll continue to provide us with all the laughter we lost when steeplerot got banned...

 

[piasabird]

Chavez is an idiot.

 

[yllus]

Originally posted by: miketheidiot
chaves is my favorite third world semi-dictator.

Ditto! There's just something about a would-be president for life that hosts a daily call-in radio show that goes on for hours that piques my curiosity.

Originally posted by: philipuso
Did you miss the story of the latest CIA attempt to overthrow Chavez??

I did notice that your stunning expose relies entirely on information provided by "Venezuelan counterintelligence from the US Embassy in Caracas". Of course, not a single respectable news outlet is reporting the same. Besides, since Chavez is stepping down fairly soon, why would they even bother?

 

[philipuso]

Of course, not a single respectable news outlet is reporting the same. Besides, since Chavez is stepping down fairly soon, why would they even bother?

His two term limitation is gonna put him out of power based on the laws in the Venezuelan constitution. His party will most likely re-elect some body with his same political thoughts so if your expecting a big change, don't count on it.

Some sovereign countries would define democracy partially as:

This equality and freedom would be achieved through the abolition of authoritarian institutions and private property[2], in order that direct control of the means of production and resources will be gained by the working class and society as a whole

Libertarian_socialism at wikipedia

Or simply the workers class having control of the nations production and resources rather than a very small group of people.

If a country wants to pursue that idea, it should be left alone by the United States and not threatened.

Currently Venezuela likes the idea above and is attempting to implement it but is threatened by the USA.

 

[philipuso]

And if you say "Well the Soviet Union failed, so the US has the right to abolish all communism around the world."

Your wrong, the Soviet Union wasn't communism(see below). And since when has the US intervened in a country for humanitarian reasons??

Subsection of "Understanding Power" by Noam Chomsky

Well, there are really two points that ought to be made. First of all, the So­viet Union was basically a capitalist system. The first thing that Lenin and Trotsky did when they took power in October 1917, remember, was to de­stroy all of the forms of socialist initiative that had developed in Russia since the start of the Russian Revolution in February 1917 [the Russian Tsar was overthrown by popular revolution in February 1917; Lenin's Bolshevik Party took over eight months later in a military coup]. Just now I was talk­ing about workers and communities participating in decision-making-the first thing the Bolsheviks did was to destroy that, totally. They destroyed the factory councils, they undermined the soviets [elected local governing bod­ies], they eliminated the Constituent Assembly [democratically elected par­liament initially dominated by a rival socialist group, which was to govern Russia but was dispersed by Bolshevik troops in January 1918]. In fact, they dismantled every form of popular organization in Russia and set up a com­mand economy with wages and profits, on sort of a centralized state­-capitalist model. 3 So on the one hand, the example you're referring to is just the extreme opposite of what I was talking about, not the same.

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: philipuso
And if you say "Well the Soviet Union failed, so the US has the right to abolish all communism around the world."

Your wrong, the Soviet Union wasn't communism(see below). And since when has the US intervened in a country for humanitarian reasons??

What is this intervening we?re supposedly doing in Venezuela?

 

[NoStateofMind]

Isn't Venezuela involved in some kind of oil tiff with the U.S.? Could this be why we are discrediting them so much? Why not Saudi Arabia? Or Pakistan? Look deeper folks....

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: philipuso
And if you say "Well the Soviet Union failed, so the US has the right to abolish all communism around the world."

Your wrong, the Soviet Union wasn't communism(see below). And since when has the US intervened in a country for humanitarian reasons??

What is this intervening we?re supposedly doing in Venezuela?

And when did Chavez become communist?

 

[philipuso]

What is this intervening we?re supposedly doing in Venezuela?

The US has protected the United Fruit Company this past century throughout Latin America and the Caribbean. This includes Cuba and Venezuela. "Protected" is defined in more detail in the link below.

Sorry, it's on the politicalhotwire.com message board:
Some history of United Fruit Company.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: philipuso

This equality and freedom would be achieved through the abolition of...private property

YIIIKES!

Or simply the workers class having control of the nations production and resources rather than a very small group of people.

Question: Can every member of "the working class" in Venezuela now afford to have a four bedroom house, two fairly new cars, a few flatscreen TV's, fast broadband internet access at home, and the chance to eat at nice restaurants once a week?

No? You mean to tell us that it's still only a "small group of people" who get to enjoy life that way??!

So, he's successfully eliminated the middle class... shocker.

If a country wants to pursue that idea, it should be left alone by the United States and not threatened.

Currently Venezuela likes the idea above and is attempting to implement it but is threatened by the USA.

Actually, only Chavez and a small minority in Venezuela like "that idea," but the actual majority who oppose it have been effectively silenced by Chavez's government fist.

So good luck with the whole authoritarian-socialist-dictator-for-life thing! :roll: