HTC HD2 versus Blackberry Bold 9700 versus other?

[AmongthechosenX]

What would you pick?

 

[rudeguy]

tough call. Cliq runs Android, which I much prefer but the HD2 is basically the flagship Tmo phone right now.

BB is a great phone if you job requires it but other than that.....yea

 

[AmongthechosenX]

does the HD2 run flash?

 

[AstroManLuca]

If it must be one of those, then the HD2. But I'd rather have a Nexus 1 than any of those.

A Blackberry anything is about the last phone I'd want, but they don't cater to my needs. I've heard they're the best for email, which I don't use much.

 

[drbrock]

I love my blackberry. But I am a heavy facebook/email user. And I am not a huge fan of touchscreens. The HD2 screen does look amazing. hopefully it gets windows 7. there has been conflicting information.

 

[yh125d]

Is this a serious question?

 

[Fox5]

does the HD2 run flash?

Flash 10.1 for windows mobile was canceled, but you can hack it to run flash lite.

 

[AmongthechosenX]

Is this a serious question?

I'm switching to T Mobile and I have a new phone option available so I want to ask opinions.

so yes

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

HD2. The Cliq doesn't even qualify as an Android device in my books. LOL. At least an HTC device that you can hack with ROMs would make a better choice against the HD2/9700.

 

[Deeko]

The HD2 runs flash lite. It does not require hacking, its enabled by default in Internet Explorer. "Hacking" will allow it to run in Opera 10 as well.

Anyway, those 3 phones are all drastically different, targeting very different demographics. What is it you want from the phone?

All in all, the HD2 is superior device of the 3. Best screen, fastest processor, most memory, etc. However, its not for everyone. Is the keyboard important? What about social networking stuff like Facebook and Twitter? What sort of apps do you look for?

All three phones offer distinct advantages over the others.

 

[Chapbass]

Wont the HD2 run skyfire, which has flash built in? I know I was able to use it on my old HTC 6800....

 

[Deeko]

Wont the HD2 run skyfire, which has flash built in? I know I was able to use it on my old HTC 6800....

Yes, it runs Skyfire.

 

[AmongthechosenX]

what do you guys think about the samsung moment from sprint?

 

[AstroManLuca]

what do you guys think about the samsung moment from sprint?

I have one and it's a decent phone but nothing special. It's still on Android 1.5, the oldest "current" version of Android. The hardware keyboard is pretty good but there are so many excellent soft keyboard alternatives that it's not that necessary.

If you go to Sprint, you should wait for the EVO 4G anyway. It's going to blow every current Android phone out of the water, with the possible exception of the N1.

 

[Deeko]

The Evo4G is considerably superior to the N1. Bigger screen, better camera (both video and still), front camera, and...well, 4G. Not to mention it runs Sense UI.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Anyway, those 3 phones are all drastically different, targeting very different demographics. What is it you want from the phone?

All in all, the HD2 is superior device of the 3. Best screen, fastest processor, most memory, etc. However, its not for everyone. Is the keyboard important? What about social networking stuff like Facebook and Twitter? What sort of apps do you look for?

All three phones offer distinct advantages over the others.

Most reasoned and balanced answer so far.

 

[JS80]

Htc evo

 

[dguy6789]

The Evo4G is considerably superior to the N1. Bigger screen, better camera (both video and still), front camera, and...well, 4G. Not to mention it runs Sense UI.

The Camera and Sense(which is more of a personal preference than something you can call an improvement) are the only things the Evo really has over the N1. Having Sense UI means that the Evo will be delayed in receiving updates to the Android OS.

The Evo's screen is larger than the N1's but it is not an OLED screen, which means it is the inferior screen when it comes to image quality, colors, contrast, and viewing angles. As a result of this, the Evo is almost certain to have worse battery life than the N1(OLED is much better on battery life than any other screen technology).

The AT&T and T-Mobile version of the N1 are already "4G" devices. AT&T and T-Mobile are rolling out HSPA+ service which is as fast or faster than Sprint's Wimax 4G and it will work on the current N1 without any changes or updates needed.

 

[Deeko]

The Camera and Sense(which is more of a personal preference than something you can call an improvement) are the only things the Evo really has over the N1. Having Sense UI means that the Evo will be delayed in receiving updates to the Android OS.

While yes, its a matter of preference, the vast majority of Android users prefer Sense. And everyone kicks and screams about updates...how many updates has the G1 gotten lately? None, its still on 1.6. The Droid - also a Google Experience device - took this long to get updated to 2.1. The Samsung Moment is still on 1.5. The MyTouch is at 1.6, whereas its Sense cousin, the Hero, is going to get bumped up to 2.1. While the Nexus One is a new "class" of Google Experience devices, there is no evidence to this point that it will be getting updates significantly faster than any other device.

The Evo's screen is larger than the N1's but it is not an OLED screen, which means it is the inferior screen when it comes to image quality, colors, and contrast. As a result of this, the Evo is almost certain to have worse battery life than the N1(OLED is much better on battery life than any other screen technology).

AMOLED has its ups and downs. While indoors they look nicer, outdoors they look horrible. AMOLED may be the future, but right now it is a step sideways. Its silly to try to guess what kind of battery life the Evo will have, and lets be serious - the Nexus One isn't exactly great in the battery life category itself.

The AT&T and T-Mobile version of the N1 are already "4G" devices. AT&T and T-Mobile are rolling out HSPA+ service which is as fast or faster than Sprint's Wimax 4G and it will work on the current N1 without any changes or updates needed.

AT&T is rolling out HSPA 7.2. T-Mobile is rolling out HSPA+ 21MBps. There is a very, very big difference between these two. While Clearwire/Sprint's WiMax network is not at T-Mobile's speed levels yet (which, by the way, aren't exactly deployed nationwide), WiMax has a higher ceiling than AT&T or T-Mobile's HSPA+ networks.

The only advantage the Nexus One really has is the AMOLED screen...but only when indoors. In pretty much every other category, the Evo beats it. And don't discount the size difference. Going from a Droid to the HD2, its like night and day. Browsing in particular is significantly better on the 4.3" screen.

 

[dguy6789]

The Evo is using the same system on a chip as the N1. The Evo has a battery that is a tiny bit bigger(1400mAh vs 1500mAh). It uses a screen that is both larger and uses more energy per square inch than the N1 screen. I don't think it is far fetched to predict the Evo's battery life to be worse. I'm well aware that the N1's battery life is not fantastic as is(I just bought a spare battery for mine the other day), which is why I was pointing out that it very well may be an issue on the Evo.

My understanding is that AT&T will eventually be releasing the 21mbps version as well, just not as soon as T-Mobile. The reason these two companies are not rolling out LTE 4G soon is because their GSM technology still has a lot of room to expand, significantly more than CDMA does, which is why Verizon and Sprint are rolling out new technology so quickly.

I'd argue that the AMOLED screen's benefits far outweigh the one negative. I've played with the HD2 for a while at my local T-Mobile store and it is an amazing device, but I can't say I would take that screen over my N1's screen hands down. It's a tough call.

 

[Deeko]

The Evo is using the same system on a chip as the N1. The Evo has a battery that is a tiny bit bigger(1400mAh vs 1500mAh). It uses a screen that is both larger and uses more energy per square inch than the N1 screen. I don't think it is far fetched to predict the Evo's battery life to be worse. I'm well aware that the N1's battery life is not fantastic as is(I just bought a spare battery for mine the other day), which is why I was pointing out that it very well may be an issue on the Evo.

They both use Snapdragon, but that's really where the similarities end. Different screens (both size and tech), and also very importantly, different radio technology. While its not necessarily far fetched to compared their battery life, these things are hard to judge. My HD2 gets as good (and sometimes better) battery life as my Droid, despite a bigger screen, faster processor, and smaller battery.

My understanding is that AT&T will eventually be releasing the 21mbps version as well, just not as soon as T-Mobile. The reason these two companies are not rolling out LTE 4G soon is because their GSM technology still has a lot of room to expand, significantly more than CDMA does, which is why Verizon and Sprint are rolling out new technology so quickly.

I could be outdated, but last I heard, AT&T is not committing to a anything beyond 7.2, and they expect to move to LTE in 2012. I understand that HSPA+ has much more room for growth than EV-DO, which makes it necessary for Verizon/Sprint to move to 4G faster....but that doesn't change the fact that 4G still has higher potential speeds than HSPA+.

I'd argue that the AMOLED screen's benefits far outweigh the one negative. I've played with the HD2 for a while at my local T-Mobile store and it is an amazing device, but I can't say I would take that screen over my N1's screen hands down. It's a tough call.

I have a ZuneHD so I'm familiar with AMOLED screens. Yes - it looks great indoors, colors are brilliant, black levels are fantastic, but outdoors, its a big, big dropoff. Like I said...AMOLED is the future, I'm pretty excited to see tecnologies like Samsung's SuperAMOLED get more traction, but right now, they both have their ups and downs.

Also, while I mentioned the size difference in regards to web browsing, don't discount it for typing, either. I'm one that generally hates on screen keyboards. The extra size on the HD2/Evo makes a big difference there, too.

Don't get me wrong - the Nexus One is still a very good device. However, in the world of cell phones, you are lucky if you remain king for more than a few months - and the Evo is coming out six months later than the Nexus One. You have to expect it to be superior. And honestly, I consider the Evo to be on the tail end of this group...we're going to see dual-core 1.3Ghz snapdragons with better graphics chips & SuperAMOLEDs by the end of 2010/early 2011 that will blow the Nexus One/Droid/HD2/Evo out of the water.

 

[Rottie]

Bold is great for email freak and if your job requires email. HD2 is great for geeky users that is all I can say for now.