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HSF and CPU, but no thermal compound....good idea?

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theNEOone

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Fedex just arrived w/ my 2200+, but my ASIII won't be in until tomorrow, Friday if it turns out that Fedex doesn't deliver on the 4th. I'm impatient, and I just want to pop the sucker in. Would it be a bad idea to run this baby for a day or two w/o thermal compound? I've got an Arkua which isn't an overclocker's HSF (IMO); it's got a huge heat sink and large fan (nonstandard size, seems to be around 70mm) that runs at low rpms for semi-quiet operation.. The HSF has a copper core that's nice and flat, so the contact might be ok. What do you guys think?
 
ABSOLUTELY NOT! The AThlon XP 2200+ even though it's .13 runs hotter than even the 2100+. I have seen systems overheat just because there was too much or not enough thermal compound. Running a system with no compound at all will most certainly destroy it within minutes. There are millions of little scratches on the bottom of the heatsink. With no thermal compound, only the tiny high points of those grooves touch the CPU meaning that there is very little heat transmission. The thoroughbred core is also too small so it needs all of the contact it can get. It's a cooling nightmare. DO NOT RUN THIS PROCESSOR WITHOUT A THERMAL CONDUCTOR! YOU WILL LOSE IT!
 
considering that cream of the crop palomino heatsinks wtih grease are crapping out on tbreds due to the concentration of heat per sq mm, it would probably be very deadly to try running an XP2200+ wtihout thermal paste. Wait a day, save $240



Mike
 
well, i was lucky enough to remember that a computer shop opened up nearby and luckily they had some ASIII. if it wasn't for the warnings, i don't think i would have even bothered to check...thx 😉
 
no, i wasn't kidding.
just for kicks i popped back the 2100+ i just replaced w/o thermal compound. worked just fine. played warcraft3 for 20 minutes and the temps didn't rise more than they normally did.
 
no, i wish. i bought the 2100+ about 3 weeks ago cuz i got sick of waiting for the 2200+. now i'm returning the first and getting the second. loss of about $50 including %15 restocking fee. i got the 2200+ because the 2100+ temps got into the low 70s when getting into a heavy duty brawl in warcraft3. i was under the impression that 2200+ ran cooler......but i've been reading and hearing differently. gonna do some tests of my own in about 30 minutes.
 
there was obviously some left on the die of the 2100 or the heatsink filling the in the tiny gaps. Otherwise you'd be without that 2100 right now.
 
well, temps are idling on the 2200+ at about the same as the 2100+. hopefully it'll drop by 2 degrees or so as the ASIII settles in. these temps are killing me, guys....66/150 idle?!?! common!! granted, it's 94 deg in my room right now but i'm still unhappy. i think it's time for some water cooling.....

mike: this heat sink using the fan on this one
 
out of curiosity, what motherboard are you using (temps depend a lot on MB).

With that heatsink, that's probably the best you can expect with your room/system temps. A lot of good overclocker hetasinks aren't performing quite the same given the small contact surface of the tbred.


MIke
 
out of curiosity, what motherboard are you using (temps depend a lot on MB).
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ASUS A7V333

Rather than going with water cooling you could have simply gone with a Northwood setup which would be faster, quieter, and cooler
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i know, but i've decided to support AMD until they are in the position to compete seriously, and surpass the market share of Intel. and besides, for the price range i'm in, amd and intel are basically identical. any advantage amd has in one benchmark is offset by intel's advantage in another.
 
Originally posted by: 7757524
Rather than going with water cooling you could have simply gone with a Northwood setup which would be faster, quieter, and cooler.
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Agree 100%. Let's face it - a few months ago I wouldn't by Intel CPU, now the situation is reversed 😉. I hope for AMD's sake that they come up with something good AND cheap fast. Intel's CPUs are much more OCable than AMD's, so you get more...
 
Agree 100%. Let's face it - a few months ago I wouldn't by Intel CPU, now the situation is reversed . I hope for AMD's sake that they come up with something good AND cheap fast. Intel's CPUs are much more OCable than AMD's, so you get more...
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agreed. they need to get the ball rolling.
 
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