HS Principal punishes students for parking on residential streets

BlancoNino

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This happened at a high school I attended for half a year north of Seattle. It was a nice school. The only problem was that the assistant principal punished students for parking on public residential streets instead of in the school parking lot. Is he allowed to do this?
 

Amused

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Welcome to following rules. Take note... because you'll have to do it in one way or another for the rest of your life.
 

bignateyk

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Originally posted by: BlancoNino
This happened at a high school I attended for half a year north of Seattle. It was a nice school. The only problem was that the assistant principal punished students for parking on public residential streets instead of in the school parking lot. Is he allowed to do this?


yes. Students werent allowed to park within a 1 mile radius of our high school, and they enforced it very strictly.
 

Howard

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Originally posted by: bignateyk
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
This happened at a high school I attended for half a year north of Seattle. It was a nice school. The only problem was that the assistant principal punished students for parking on public residential streets instead of in the school parking lot. Is he allowed to do this?


yes. Students werent allowed to park within a 1 mile radius of our high school, and they enforced it very strictly.
If you have to park at least a mile away, why did students drive at all?
 

Alienwho

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heh, my brother is still in high school and last year the chained his truck to some big cylinder drum filled with something for parking on a residential street. Well my brother and his friends just picked it up and put it up in his truck bed and took it over to our house and welded the chain off!

The school called our house later that night asking for the drum back.
 

BlancoNino

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Originally posted by: Amused
Welcome to following rules. Take note... because you'll have to do it in one way or another for the rest of your life.

Well last I checked it wasn't against the law...and I guess I don't see why it's the school's business where their students park. It's off school grounds.
 

BlancoNino

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Originally posted by: Alienwho
heh, my brother is still in high school and last year the chained his truck to some big cylinder drum filled with something for parking on a residential street. Well my brother and his friends just picked it up and put it up in his truck bed and took it over to our house and welded the chain off!

The school called our house later that night asking for the drum back.

I would literally press charges against the school for vandalism. A residential street = public property, and anyone is allowed to park there.
 

bignateyk

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Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: bignateyk
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
This happened at a high school I attended for half a year north of Seattle. It was a nice school. The only problem was that the assistant principal punished students for parking on public residential streets instead of in the school parking lot. Is he allowed to do this?


yes. Students werent allowed to park within a 1 mile radius of our high school, and they enforced it very strictly.
If you have to park at least a mile away, why did students drive at all?


They didnt. That was the point of the rule. They didnt want students driving and parking 10 feet off school property.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Originally posted by: Amused
Welcome to following rules. Take note... because you'll have to do it in one way or another for the rest of your life.

Well last I checked it wasn't against the law...and I guess I don't see why it's the school's business where their students park. It's off school grounds.

Think harder.

The school makes the rules to appease the neighbors. The students HAVE to follow the rules of the school, or face the consequences.

Law has nothing to do with it. It's the rules of the school.

You will face many rules when you work for a living too. I suggest you get used to it.
 

KLin

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Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Originally posted by: Alienwho
heh, my brother is still in high school and last year the chained his truck to some big cylinder drum filled with something for parking on a residential street. Well my brother and his friends just picked it up and put it up in his truck bed and took it over to our house and welded the chain off!

The school called our house later that night asking for the drum back.

I would literally press charges against the school for vandalism. A residential street = public property, and anyone is allowed to park there.

You wouldn't get far with that lawsuit.
 

bignateyk

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Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Originally posted by: Alienwho
heh, my brother is still in high school and last year the chained his truck to some big cylinder drum filled with something for parking on a residential street. Well my brother and his friends just picked it up and put it up in his truck bed and took it over to our house and welded the chain off!

The school called our house later that night asking for the drum back.

I would literally press charges against the school for vandalism. A residential street = public property, and anyone is allowed to park there.


No, its owned by the county or township, and the township can decide who is allowed to park there. (fire lanes, no parking signs, etc..). If they approved a rule saying students couldnt park there during certain hours, then its perfectly ok.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: KLin
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Originally posted by: Alienwho
heh, my brother is still in high school and last year the chained his truck to some big cylinder drum filled with something for parking on a residential street. Well my brother and his friends just picked it up and put it up in his truck bed and took it over to our house and welded the chain off!

The school called our house later that night asking for the drum back.

I would literally press charges against the school for vandalism. A residential street = public property, and anyone is allowed to park there.

You wouldn't get far with that lawsuit.

He wouldn't even get a lawyer. :laugh:
 

DaveSimmons

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Well last I checked it wasn't against the law...and I guess I don't see why it's the school's business where their students park. It's off school grounds.
The HS is part of a community. They answer to the members of that community. They also have the power to set rules for students attending the school.

<stallone> THEY ARE THE THE LAW!! </stallone>

When you reach college you'll find the university also controls the actions of fraternities that are located off-campus. Life's just like that.
 

Whisper

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Originally posted by: Amused
Welcome to following rules. Take note... because you'll have to do it in one way or another for the rest of your life.

Well last I checked it wasn't against the law...and I guess I don't see why it's the school's business where their students park. It's off school grounds.

Think harder.

The school makes the rules to appease the neighbors. The students HAVE to follow the rules of the school, or face the consequences.

Law has nothing to do with it. It's the rules of the school.

You will face many rules when you work for a living too. I suggest you get used to it.

And there you have it. I'd imagine homeowners near the school wouldn't want who knows how many students parking on streets in front of their houses five days out of the week.
 

iamwiz82

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Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
Well last I checked it wasn't against the law...and I guess I don't see why it's the school's business where their students park. It's off school grounds.
The HS is part of a community. They answer to the members of that community. They also have the power to set rules for students attending the school.

<stallone> THEY ARE THE THE LAW!! </stallone>

When you reach college you'll find the university also controls the actions of fraternities that are located off-campus. Life's just like that.

This... 'life' thing you talk about, it's entirely too complicated.
 

Whisper

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Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
Well last I checked it wasn't against the law...and I guess I don't see why it's the school's business where their students park. It's off school grounds.
The HS is part of a community. They answer to the members of that community. They also have the power to set rules for students attending the school.

<stallone> THEY ARE THE THE LAW!! </stallone>

When you reach college you'll find the university also controls the actions of fraternities that are located off-campus. Life's just like that.

To an extent they do, yes. It depends largely on whether or not the fraternity/sorority is recognized by the university (i.e., registered as a student or greek organization, sits on a council, and all that good stuff). Many times, in order to live in houses zoned for fraternities/sororities, the organization has to be recognized by a school...hence said school's hold over them.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: bignateyk
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
This happened at a high school I attended for half a year north of Seattle. It was a nice school. The only problem was that the assistant principal punished students for parking on public residential streets instead of in the school parking lot. Is he allowed to do this?


yes. Students werent allowed to park within a 1 mile radius of our high school, and they enforced it very strictly.

yeap my Highschool had a policy that only Seniors can park in the parking lot or members of sport teams (since you needed the car to get to and from practice). so people started parking on side streets. they had a had crack down .

well there was a house across from the school for sale. so a parent bought the house there kids could park in the driveway and in front of the house.

this of course got the neighbors ticked off.which lead to a lawsuit. not sure what happened since i moved out of town for college.
 

BlancoNino

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Originally posted by: bignateyk
No, its owned by the county or township, and the township can decide who is allowed to park there. (fire lanes, no parking signs, etc..). If they approved a rule saying students couldnt park there during certain hours, then its perfectly ok.

I understand now...

But both high schools I attended didn't have NEARLY enough parking spaces for all of the students...plus they made you pay for them. So saying you can't park on a public street nearby is ridiculous.

Amused, I usually agree with what you say, but I don't understand why you're being short with me and implying that I have a problem with rules. I asked a simple question.
 

bignateyk

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Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Originally posted by: bignateyk
No, its owned by the county or township, and the township can decide who is allowed to park there. (fire lanes, no parking signs, etc..). If they approved a rule saying students couldnt park there during certain hours, then its perfectly ok.

I understand now...

But both high schools I attended didn't have NEARLY enough parking spaces for all of the students...plus they made you pay for them. So saying you can't park on a public street nearby is ridiculous.

Amused, I usually agree with what you say, but I don't understand why you're being short with me and implying that I have a problem with rules. I asked a simple question.

Why should there be enough spaces for all the students to park at? Thats the point of a bus system. At my highschool, NOONE was allowed to drive to school or park there during school hours, UNLESS they had a special permit, and they only issued these under certain circumstances (proof of job, doctors, etc...)
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: BlancoNino

Amused, I usually agree with what you say, but I don't understand why you're being short with me and implying that I have a problem with rules. I asked a simple question.

It's the way you phrased your original question, and then the silly argument you made trying to defend the opinion that the school can't tell you what to do.

Nothing personal, it's just a common thing among students thinking they have rights that just don't exist.
 

BlancoNino

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Originally posted by: Amused
It's the way you phrased your original question, and then the silly argument you made trying to defend the opinion that the school can't tell you what to do.

Nothing personal, it's just a common thing among students thinking they have rights that just don't exist.

"Is he allowed to do this?"

I don't see anything wrong about phrasing my question like that.

There are always more questions too, such as...

If the school and city decide that certain people aren't allowed to park in certain areas, how will they enforce it? What if you drive a different car? How can they prove that you parked your car? Who is being harmed?

During morning (school) hours, what's wrong with parking in front of houses on residential streets? Most people are at work anyway.

I guess my problem with this is that in my experiences, schools have a problem with convenience. My high school AND the college I attend now both sold way more parking permits than they had parking spaces. Nobody likes riding buses...they run at inconvenient times and they're loud and smelly.
 

bignateyk

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Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Originally posted by: Amused
It's the way you phrased your original question, and then the silly argument you made trying to defend the opinion that the school can't tell you what to do.

Nothing personal, it's just a common thing among students thinking they have rights that just don't exist.

"Is he allowed to do this?"

I don't see anything wrong about phrasing my question like that.

There are always more questions too, such as...

If the school and city decide that certain people aren't allowed to park in certain areas, how will they enforce it? What if you drive a different car? How can they prove that you parked your car? Who is being harmed?

During morning (school) hours, what's wrong with parking in front of houses on residential streets? Most people are at work anyway.

I guess my problem with this is that in my experiences, schools have a problem with convenience. My high school AND the college I attend now both sold way more parking permits than they had parking spaces. Nobody likes riding buses...they run at inconvenient times and they're loud and smelly.


Who the hell cares if people "like" to ride the bus. Its there for a reason. The reason is that noone in their right mind wants 800 highschool kids driving in close proximity. This is the reason they stopped letting ANYONE drive at our highschool. Because most of the kids are fvcking morons, and do stupid sh!t in their cars. There was an accident about 2 blocks off of school property that killed 4 highschool students.


The same thing happened at my moms school where she teaches. Two students decided to race as soon as they left school, and one of them flipped his car into a ditch, and killed himself and two of his passengers.
 

AgentJean

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My High School(back a few years ago) has very retarted and restrictive rules regarding parking permits. For 1 they over sold permits meaning you were not guaranteed a parking space. Second they could take back the permit for any reason at any time and not refund the fee you paid.

During my senior year I got a permit from the neighboring private school. They only sold as many permits as they had spots and they would not revoke my permit unless I did something like park in a non approved area. Only a retard would have praked in a teachers spot though, because the back of the parking lot was closer to my high school.