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HS/F for AMD64 X2 5000+ Black Edition

crockman

crockman

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5000+ CPU

I read thru an Article about this CPU at TomsHardware 5000+ BE, sounds like a Very Nice 'Budget' CPU.

The only OC'ing I plan to do with this CPU to start with is to simply raise the Multplier to 15.5.

This 5000+ BE will be paired with this MB Biostar TF560. (MB was a recommendation of Forum member Zap from this Thread Budget Dual-Core

I'm building a 'Budget' Dual-Core PC mainly to be used for Online gaming.

A Recommendation for a Reliable, Quiet HS/Fan would be nice please.


I may just go with this CPU (Will only OC the 5000+ Mildly anyway) 5600+ Winsdor 2GB-L2, and not bother with having to buy an HS/F and would have a Nice 2GB L2-Cache.

So In-Short, a recommendation for a HS/F (has to be Quiet) for Hopefully under 25$.

Thanks
 
I would suggest an
Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 it is $26 shipped, and gets around 50 MHz under $40-60 cpu coolers.

Very nice reviews, low noise and temperatures, adjustable speed(iirc)

I am getting one soon, do not have one yet.

Also, before posting, it's recommended to read the anandtech reviews, that's how I find a lot of information.
 
Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 it is $26 shipped
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Thanks, sounds like a great recommendation.

Also, before posting, it's recommended to read the anandtech reviews, that's how I find a lot of information
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Actually I did. I had to leaf thru all the reviews cause I really didn't know what to Search for. All i found was this Review Artic Cooling Duo, but thats for Intel.
Also searched Tomshardware a bit.

1 Side question. Being this 5000-BE only has a 2x512MB L2-Cache and I'll only be OC'ing it to 3.1Ghz, would it be better to buy this Windsor Windsor 2GB L2 and get a Nice 2GB L2-Cache ?

Thanks
 
Can I ask why you're not just doing something like a Pentium 2140 or 2160 and a DFI Blood Iron board. That'd be about $180 plus ram, which you're going to have to get anyways. It would honestly be faster and more futureproof. In order for AMD to become competitive on the high end again they're going to have to make drastic changes to their processors and that will more than likely mean a new socket. I have no insider information of any kind but, look at the move from socket A to 940 to 939/754 to AM2 to AM2+ and AM3 on their roadmaps for DDR3 already.
 
Can I ask why you're not just doing something like a Pentium 2140 or 2160 and a DFI Blood Iron board.
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I'm not Familiar with Intel at all. 1st build being an Old PCChips MB with a Athlon 1400 a few years ago and since then all my experience is with Amd.

I haven't taken the time to catch up with the Intel side of things, guess i probably should.

I've already bought some of the parts for this my 1st Dual-Core build, so I'll continue to build it as an Amd system.

I build PC's for friends so i can always pass on this Amd I'm building then start an Intel Build, but not quite yet.
 
Originally posted by: crockman
1 Side question. Being this 5000-BE only has a 2x512MB L2-Cache and I'll only be OC'ing it to 3.1Ghz, would it be better to buy this Windsor Windsor 2GB L2 and get a Nice 2GB L2-Cache ?
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Wow, was gonna suggest the cheaper 5200+, but turns out it's the most expensive one at Newegg, WTF? $40 more than 6400+? $108 here but I've never purchased from them.
 
Originally posted by: Zap
Originally posted by: crockman
1 Side question. Being this 5000-BE only has a 2x512MB L2-Cache and I'll only be OC'ing it to 3.1Ghz, would it be better to buy this Windsor Windsor 2GB L2 and get a Nice 2GB L2-Cache ?
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Wow, was gonna suggest the cheaper 5200+, but turns out it's the most expensive one at Newegg, WTF? $40 more than 6400+? $108 here but I've never purchased from them.
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The 5200+ at newegg is the 65W version versus the 5600+ at 89W and anything higher at 125W. They charge quite a premium for the special binning for the 65W pieces.
 
Originally posted by: DerwenArtos12
The 5200+ at newegg is the 65W version versus the 5600+ at 89W and anything higher at 125W. They charge quite a premium for the special binning for the 65W pieces.
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Newegg used to have both versions of the 5200+ at $120 and $120.99, basically a buck difference. The 65W chip is a "CZ" core just like all the faster ones. The 95W 5200+ is a "CS" core. I had gotten my "CZ" core for under $100, for an OEM bare chip.

The current premium at Newegg is limited to them only. The 65W chip is still available elsewhere starting at under $110.
 
Thanks Zap, DerwenArtos12, MarcVenice & error8.

I've been watching the AMD Processors over the last few months and have been hoping to find a 65NM Dual-Core with a 2x1GB L2.

I found this X2 5200+ 65NM 2x1GB L2 from surfing through the Link Zap provided.

Does that CPU even exist ?

AMD lists on their Site that the X2 5200+ with 65NM only has a 1GB L2, but xpcgear is advertising it as 2x1GB L2.

If that's not a Typo and it really is 65NM with 2x1GB L2 then I think I'm sold, basically thus then exactly what I've been looking for.
 
You'll want to e-mail them for clarification of the item as the 2.7ghz 5200+ on 65nm is only a 2x512Mb cache part.
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Thanks

I'm not going to bother looking any deeper into this L2 Stuff. I just spent the better part of the last 3 Hours reading all sorts of L2 Stuff from around the Web.

The Ease of being able to Ramp the 5000+ BE up to 3Ghz'ish should make up for the missing L2 i would think.

So a 5000+ BE and that Arctic Freezer 64 coupled with a Biostar TF560 MB should be a Decent Cheap upgrade from my present system (Sig. below). Then I'll spend the Extra dollars on an 8800GTS instead of just an 8800GT.

I could just scrap my AMD Dual-Core project altogether and go Intel, but I know Very Little of what Intel Parts to buy

Thanks for all the Replies.


 
Originally posted by: crockman
You'll want to e-mail them for clarification of the item as the 2.7ghz 5200+ on 65nm is only a 2x512Mb cache part.
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Thanks

I'm not going to bother looking any deeper into this L2 Stuff. I just spent the better part of the last 3 Hours reading all sorts of L2 Stuff from around the Web.

The Ease of being able to Ramp the 5000+ BE up to 3Ghz'ish should make up for the missing L2 i would think.

So a 5000+ BE and that Arctic Freezer 64 coupled with a Biostar TF560 MB should be a Decent Cheap upgrade from my present system (Sig. below). Then I'll spend the Extra dollars on an 8800GTS instead of just an 8800GT.

I could just scrap my AMD Dual-Core project altogether and go Intel, but I know Very Little of what Intel Parts to buy

Thanks for all the Replies.
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I love my 3700+ sand diego, it's been one of the funest chips I've had in terms of being able to just push and push but, my next build will be intel and I'm reccomending intel to all of my clients for the time being. With the quite frankly flopped performance of K10 Phenom I see the light at the end of the tunnel for AMD but, with the current performance of C2D and with impending on-chip memory controllers for Intel that light at the end of the tunnel for AMD may just be it's Father and Brother, It's Mother and Sister calling it to it's final resting place.
 
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