HR ppl, do u check other employee salaries out of curiousity?

[sactoking]

Originally posted by: Beev


giving out salary info would just build resentment anyway. Most people think they work hard and are stressed therefore they deserve a lot more than they get. They would also just look at the people getting more pay and forget about those earning less, heck if I had ten colleagues and I earned more than 8, I'd still just be wondering how come that 1 guy earns more than me. .

I think that social studies have shown that making salary/wage information public does, in fact, the exact opposite. You know exactly where you stand in relation to your coworkers. Not only does this foster a positive work environment by cutting out the speculation and rumormongering, but the employer is forced to pay people on merit. As an employer, you can't pay someone an extra $10,000 for no reason when pay is public, because you won't retain a single employee. You HAVE to be able to point to education, experience, etc. as a factor.

 

[AlienCraft]

Originally posted by: Beev

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
there would be a lot of disgruntled employees when they find out that Tim from accounting who browses the web all day and takes 10 smoke breaks a day makes 3x more than the avg employee just because he knows how to brown nose.

Exactly the point. It would promote at least a little more fairness in the pay scale.

They tell you that " fairness" is a Socialist concept, designed to re-distribute the wealth to those who may not have "earned" it.
Furthermore, any increase in employee compensation reduce the Companies bottom line, and therefore are not in The Companies best interest. In fact, if they give you a raise, then they would have to give everyone a raise, and that would lead to inflation, which is deadly for "The Company", because then they would have to raise their rates / fees they charge the customer, they won't buy from us anymore, and then we would have to "let you go", as we move our operations offshore, so we can increase our profitability.


Sound familiar to anyone?

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

Originally posted by: sactoking

Originally posted by: Beev


giving out salary info would just build resentment anyway. Most people think they work hard and are stressed therefore they deserve a lot more than they get. They would also just look at the people getting more pay and forget about those earning less, heck if I had ten colleagues and I earned more than 8, I'd still just be wondering how come that 1 guy earns more than me. .

I think that social studies have shown that making salary/wage information public does, in fact, the exact opposite. You know exactly where you stand in relation to your coworkers. Not only does this foster a positive work environment by cutting out the speculation and rumormongering, but the employer is forced to pay people on merit. As an employer, you can't pay someone an extra $10,000 for no reason when pay is public, because you won't retain a single employee. You HAVE to be able to point to education, experience, etc. as a factor.

couldn't it also go the other way. you realize you're doing more work than the next guy and if you aren't getting compensated for it on your next review, you start to slack and productivity goes down across the board.

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: sactoking

Originally posted by: Beev


giving out salary info would just build resentment anyway. Most people think they work hard and are stressed therefore they deserve a lot more than they get. They would also just look at the people getting more pay and forget about those earning less, heck if I had ten colleagues and I earned more than 8, I'd still just be wondering how come that 1 guy earns more than me. .

I think that social studies have shown that making salary/wage information public does, in fact, the exact opposite. You know exactly where you stand in relation to your coworkers. Not only does this foster a positive work environment by cutting out the speculation and rumormongering, but the employer is forced to pay people on merit. As an employer, you can't pay someone an extra $10,000 for no reason when pay is public, because you won't retain a single employee. You HAVE to be able to point to education, experience, etc. as a factor.

couldn't it also go the other way. you realize you're doing more work than the next guy and if you aren't getting compensated for it on your next review, you start to slack and productivity goes down across the board.

fire your ass and then hire somebody new?

 

[sactoking]

Yes, employers have always been able to fire employees b/c they have all the information on productivity vs. pay. Employees have to go under imperfect information, meaning they know how productive they are and how much they make, but don't have any data to place that in a relative perspective.

If pay is public and you choose to work down to your pay, you'll get fired. If you underproduce, you'll get fired if pay is private, too. Nothing changes.

From an employee's perspective, the only thing that changes is you now have more information on whether or not to fire your employer (quit).

In a capatalistic, Darwinian sense, public pay numbers help crappy employers go out of business sooner when they can't retain good talent. It should be, in theory, better for the economy and society.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

Originally posted by: Ns1

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: sactoking

Originally posted by: Beev


giving out salary info would just build resentment anyway. Most people think they work hard and are stressed therefore they deserve a lot more than they get. They would also just look at the people getting more pay and forget about those earning less, heck if I had ten colleagues and I earned more than 8, I'd still just be wondering how come that 1 guy earns more than me. .

I think that social studies have shown that making salary/wage information public does, in fact, the exact opposite. You know exactly where you stand in relation to your coworkers. Not only does this foster a positive work environment by cutting out the speculation and rumormongering, but the employer is forced to pay people on merit. As an employer, you can't pay someone an extra $10,000 for no reason when pay is public, because you won't retain a single employee. You HAVE to be able to point to education, experience, etc. as a factor.

couldn't it also go the other way. you realize you're doing more work than the next guy and if you aren't getting compensated for it on your next review, you start to slack and productivity goes down across the board.

fire your ass and then hire somebody new?

then they'd have to fire the guy who's level i sunk to first.