HR 514 - Patriot Act Extension - Passed

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Scotteq

Scotteq

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EDIT - THEY PASSED IT FOR JUST 90 DAYS TO (RE)CONSIDER CHANGES TO IMPROVE PROVISIONS FOR ROVING WIRETAPS, GOVERNMENT ACCESS TO BUSINESS RECORDS, AND SECRET SURVEILLANCE


So, there is some hope they're finally getting it....





This morning:


H.R. 514:

to extend expiring provisions of the USA PATRIOT Improvement and Reauthorization Act of 2005 and Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004 relating to access to business records, individual terrorists as agents of foreign powers, and roving wiretaps until December 8, 2011

Motion to reconsider laid on the table Agreed to without objection.
On motion that the House agree to the Senate amendment Agreed to by the Yeas and Nays: (Roll No. 66).
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The roll call hasn't yet been published: It should end up here when it does.


It's already passed the Senate (86 - 12). So all that's left is for President Obama to sign it.\


The Senate voted as follows:

Akaka (D-HI), Yea
Alexander (R-TN), Yea
Ayotte (R-NH), Yea
Barrasso (R-WY), Yea
Baucus (D-MT), Nay
Begich (D-AK), Nay
Bennet (D-CO), Yea
Bingaman (D-NM), Yea
Blumenthal (D-CT), Yea
Blunt (R-MO), Yea
Boozman (R-AR), Yea
Boxer (D-CA), Yea
Brown (D-OH), Nay
Brown (R-MA), Yea
Burr (R-NC), Yea
Cantwell (D-WA), Yea
Cardin (D-MD), Yea
Carper (D-DE), Yea
Casey (D-PA), Yea
Chambliss (R-GA), Yea
Coats (R-IN), Yea
Coburn (R-OK), Yea
Cochran (R-MS), Yea
Collins (R-ME), Yea
Conrad (D-ND), Yea
Coons (D-DE), Yea
Corker (R-TN), Yea
Cornyn (R-TX), Yea
Crapo (R-ID), Yea
DeMint (R-SC), Yea
Durbin (D-IL), Yea
Ensign (R-NV), Yea
Enzi (R-WY), Yea
Feinstein (D-CA), Yea
Franken (D-MN), Yea
Gillibrand (D-NY), Yea
Graham (R-SC), Yea
Grassley (R-IA), Yea
Hagan (D-NC), Yea
Harkin (D-IA), Nay
Hatch (R-UT), Yea
Hoeven (R-ND), Yea
Hutchison (R-TX), Yea
Inhofe (R-OK), Yea
Inouye (D-HI), Yea
Isakson (R-GA), Yea
Johanns (R-NE), Yea
Johnson (D-SD), Yea
Johnson (R-WI), Yea
Kerry (D-MA), Not Voting
Kirk (R-IL), Yea
Klobuchar (D-MN), Yea
Kohl (D-WI), Yea
Kyl (R-AZ), Yea
Landrieu (D-LA), Yea
Lautenberg (D-NJ), Nay
Leahy (D-VT), Yea
Lee (R-UT), Nay
Levin (D-MI), Yea
Lieberman (ID-CT), Yea
Lugar (R-IN), Yea
Manchin (D-WV), Yea
McCain (R-AZ), Yea
McCaskill (D-MO), Yea
McConnell (R-KY), Yea
Menendez (D-NJ), Yea
Merkley (D-OR), Nay
Mikulski (D-MD), Yea
Moran (R-KS), Yea
Murkowski (R-AK), Yea
Murray (D-WA), Nay
Nelson (D-FL), Yea
Nelson (D-NE), Yea
Paul (R-KY), Nay
Portman (R-OH), Yea
Pryor (D-AR), Not Voting
Reed (D-RI), Yea
Reid (D-NV), Yea
Risch (R-ID), Yea
Roberts (R-KS), Yea
Rockefeller (D-WV), Yea
Rubio (R-FL), Yea
Sanders (I-VT), Nay
Schumer (D-NY), Yea
Sessions (R-AL), Yea
Shaheen (D-NH), Yea
Shelby (R-AL), Yea
Snowe (R-ME), Yea
Stabenow (D-MI), Yea
Tester (D-MT), Nay
Thune (R-SD), Yea
Toomey (R-PA), Yea
Udall (D-CO), Yea
Udall (D-NM), Nay
Vitter (R-LA), Yea
Warner (D-VA), Yea
Webb (D-VA), Yea
Whitehouse (D-RI), Yea
Wicker (R-MS), Yea
Wyden (D-OR), Yea
 
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Vette73

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I was about to say looks like only Dems voted against it but Lee (R-UT) and Paul (R-KY) voted Nay. :thumbsup:
 
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Scotteq

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Marlin1975 said:
I was about to say looks like only Dems voted against it but Lee (R-UT) voted Nay. :thumbsup:
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Yah - Dems are more against it than Repubs. Though 86~12 is still (by far) a Supermajority in the (Democratically controlled by a hair) Senate. The House vote will be more mixed, as it failed a 2/3rds vote last week..
 
Doc Savage Fan

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I understand that there's no additional oversight on government surveillance or restrictions on warrantless wiretaps. Surely Obama won't sign this.
 
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Scotteq said:
Yah - Dems are more against it than Repubs. Though 86~12 is still (by far) a Supermajority in the (Democratically controlled by a hair) Senate. The House vote will be more mixed, as it failed a 2/3rds vote last week..
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Yea my thing is the R's will usually get in line and do as the head says. On the Dem side they vote anyway and the Rs know it.

But to see 2 Rs go against it was at least nice, even though it matters little.
 
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Without quick action from our law enforcement evidence will be quickly erased by any terrorist planning an uprising within our country. Our law enforcement needs to be able to quickly put down any rebellion.

I don't understand why anyone would be against this.
 
Scotteq

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Edited my original Post to update: It passed for just 90 days, so they can consider changes.
 
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IKnoWhatsBest4U said:
Without quick action from our law enforcement evidence will be quickly erased by any terrorist planning an uprising within our country. Our law enforcement needs to be able to quickly put down any rebellion.

I don't understand why anyone would be against this.
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I don't understand how a coward would make a new account up as they are scared to post under their orignal one.

WWYBYWB?
 
thraashman

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bamacre said:
And his popularity makes him more dangerous than Bush, IMHO.
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I don't think so. I'm a die hard liberal. In fact I think conservative is the most insulting thing you can call someone. So I generally vote democrat. And I'm furious with Obama for so many of the things I hated that Bush did that Obama is continuing. Things that I feel directly violate the Constitution. I'd probably vote against Obama in a primary now, but I do believe that a sitting president pretty much automatically gets his party's nomination if he can run again. And in truth, the options from Republicans haven't been anything but authoritarian corporatists who have horribly inept economic policies and social policies that rival Salem around 1692.
 
Scotteq

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her209 said:
Interesting...

:hmm:
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If it helps:


{and since I bolded (D) last time the topic came up, I'm bolding (R) today. Must be fair, lest someone get all butt hurt over a perceived slight}



YEAs ---86

Akaka (D-HI)
Alexander (R-TN)
Ayotte (R-NH)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Bennet (D-CO)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Blumenthal (D-CT)
Blunt (R-MO)
Boozman (R-AR)
Boxer (D-CA)
Brown (R-MA)
Burr (R-NC)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Cardin (D-MD)
Carper (D-DE)
Casey (D-PA)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coats (R-IN)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Collins (R-ME)
Conrad (D-ND)
Coons (D-DE)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
Durbin (D-IL)
Ensign (R-NV)
Enzi (R-WY)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Franken (D-MN)
Gillibrand (D-NY)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Hagan (D-NC)
Hatch (R-UT)
Hoeven (R-ND)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Inouye (D-HI)
Isakson (R-GA)
Johanns (R-NE)J
ohnson (D-SD)
Johnson (R-WI)
Kirk (R-IL)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Kohl (D-WI)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Lieberman (ID-CT)
Lugar (R-IN)
Manchin (D-WV)
McCain (R-AZ)
McCaskill (D-MO)
McConnell (R-KY)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Moran (R-KS)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Portman (R-OH)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Risch (R-ID)
Roberts (R-KS)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Rubio (R-FL)
Schumer (D-NY)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shaheen (D-NH)
Shelby (R-AL)
Snowe (R-ME)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Thune (R-SD)
Toomey (R-PA)
Udall (D-CO)
Vitter (R-LA)
Warner (D-VA)
Webb (D-VA)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
Wicker (R-MS)
Wyden (D-OR)




NAYs ---12


Baucus (D-MT)
Begich (D-AK)
Brown (D-OH)
Harkin (D-IA)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Lee (R-UT)
Merkley (D-OR)
Murray (D-WA)
Paul (R-KY)
Sanders (I-VT)
Tester (D-MT)
Udall (D-NM)



Not Voting - 2
Kerry (D-MA)
Pryor (D-AR)
 
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Jaskalas

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Doc Savage Fan said:
I understand that there's no additional oversight on government surveillance or restrictions on warrantless wiretaps. Surely Obama won't sign this.
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For what reason would he not sign it? The man believes our bill of rights should be of government's rights listing what it can do to you. The men supporting this betray the nation, our people, and their god given rights.

They believe in an ultimate authority, themselves. The Patriot Act is a manifestation of this belief. The only people in our government who represent me are the super-minority who voted no.

In what way, can our stacked ballot election system solve this problem? Hell, the worst part is the public wants their bill of rights abolished.
 
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bradley

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A state of emergency has become the new normal after almost ten years. Dormant provisions such as martial law and censorship can easily be enacted. Now to convince Americans to turn in their guns for box cutters.
 
Corn

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Genx87 said:
Clearly Republicans forced their hand. If the floor was 100-0 democrat controlled then they could vote how they Craig believes they would vote :D
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All it takes is one Republican to bend the will of a gang progressives into doing their evil bidding.

What pussies.
 
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