HPV Vaccine Warning

[piasabird]

https://screen.yahoo.com/hpv-vaccine-thousands-suffer-serious-092208211.html

Mothers in Europe have been reporting problems with the HPV vaccine's having possible side effects. Imagine you get your 14 year old daughter a vaccine and it causes side effects ruining her health for the rest of her life. Health community is in denial and refuses to consider this possible without proof.

 

[CitizenKain]

Requiring proof is good idea, as anti-vaxxers are generally dishonest and quite stupid people.

 

[IronWing]

An un-sourced video. I'm convinced.

 

[Jaskalas]

What's wrong with wanting proof of accusations?
How can we be expected to support a claim that is not substantiated?

 

[abj13]

https://screen.yahoo.com/hpv-vaccine-thousands-suffer-serious-092208211.html

Mothers in Europe have been reporting problems with the HPV vaccine's having possible side effects. Imagine you get your 14 year old daughter a vaccine and it causes side effects ruining her health for the rest of her life. Health community is in denial and refuses to consider this possible without proof.

Ah, the internet, the source of so many PhD's in vaccines and immunology. Why do people bother to get MD's or PhD's when you can become an overnight doctorate degree holder from Google?

There have been major studies in the safety of HPV vaccines. Multiple studies have been well summarized by the most recent summary provided by the Advisory Committee on Immunization:

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/rr6305a1.htm

Some of the highlights:

* No statistically significant increased risks were observed for any of the prespecified endpoints including Guillain-Barré syndrome (GBS), stroke, venous thromboembolism, appendicitis, seizures, syncope, allergic reactions, and anaphylaxis (151)

* In another study, rates of 16 autoimmune disorders in the vaccinated population were not increased compared with a matched population of nonvaccinated females (153)

*A large population-based cohort study conducted in Denmark and Sweden analyzed data on >696,000 doses of HPV4 among females. No consistent evidence supporting causal associations between exposure to HPV4 and autoimmune, neurologic conditions, and venous thromboembolism was observed (155)

* In France, a case-control study was conducted to evaluate autoimmune disorders following HPV4. Among 211 cases and 875 controls, no increased risk was observed for idiopathic thrombocytopenic purpura, central demyelination/multiple sclerosis, GBS, connective tissue disorders (including systemic lupus erythematosus, rheumatoid arthritis/juvenile arthritis), type 1 diabetes mellitus, and autoimmune thyroiditis after receipt of HPV4 (156).

*Serious adverse events were evaluated in a pooled safety analysis that included 30,192 females aged 9–72 years (16,381 received HPV2). Proportions of persons reporting a serious adverse event were similar in vaccine and control groups (5.3% and 5.9%, respectively), as were the types of serious adverse events reported (10).

*In the pooled safety analysis, including 12,772 females who received HPV2 and 10,730 in the control groups, incidence of potential new autoimmune disorders did not differ (0.8% in both groups).

*Overall, among completed and ongoing studies that enrolled 57,323 females aged 9–72 years, 37 deaths were reported during 7.4 years of follow-up: 20 among those who received bivalent vaccine (0.06%) and 17 among those in the control groups (0.07%). None of the deaths was considered to be vaccine-related.

Let's ignore the data behind millions of dosages given, because the more obvious conclusion is that there's a massive conspiracy against the world.

Vaccines are constantly monitored for safety. Making the asinine assertion that medical providers DON'T consider adverse effects or monitor for them is intellectually dishonest and lazy.

 

[brycejones]

To bad steworx was banned, this thread would be right up his alley.

 

[shira]

https://screen.yahoo.com/hpv-vaccine-thousands-suffer-serious-092208211.html

Mothers in Europe have been reporting problems with the HPV vaccine's having possible side effects. Imagine you get your 14 year old daughter a vaccine and it causes side effects ruining her health for the rest of her life. Health community is in denial and refuses to consider this possible without proof.

Wow. Talk about distorting what was in the video.

This girl in the video has has had various symptoms for the past two years. That hardly qualifies as "ruining her health for the rest of her life."

Furthermore, the video reports that "according to the Dutch health care agency, Kim's chronic nausea, head, and muscle aches cannot yet be linked to the vaccine." And the head of the agency states in the video "Until now there is no proof that these side effects are caused by the vaccine." Where on earth does OP get from that that the "health community is in denial and refuses to consider this possible without proof."

Of course it's POSSIBLE. But without double-blinded, controlled studies that produce statistically significant negative health effects in vaccinated versus unvaccinated groups, it would be wildly irresponsible to take the HPA vaccine off the market or change vaccination recommendations.

For those with very short memories, the HPA vaccine protects against cervical, anal, vaginal, and vulvar cancer (and pre-cancerous lesions associated with those diseases), as well as genital warts.

So is OP telling us that we should cease inoculating teenage girls and boys, increasing number cancer cases (and deaths) by millions, because some girls who receive the HPA vaccine are complaining about health problems that cannot be tied to the HPA vaccine?

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Make sure the school doesn't have strong WiFi

http://m.telegram.com/article/20150824/NEWS/150829606

 

[SheHateMe]

I got my HPV vaccine when I was 22. Now, I am a lizard.

Goddamn Big Pharma

 

[Darwin333]

https://screen.yahoo.com/hpv-vaccine-thousands-suffer-serious-092208211.html

Mothers in Europe have been reporting problems with the HPV vaccine's having possible side effects. Imagine you get your 14 year old daughter a vaccine and it causes side effects ruining her health for the rest of her life. Health community is in denial and refuses to consider this possible without proof.

So..... you think they should act without proof?

And I so thought this was going to be another "hpv vaccine turned my daughter into a raging slut when otherwise she would have only slept with one man, her husband, in her entire life" threads.

 

[Darwin333]

So is OP telling us that we should cease inoculating teenage girls and boys, increasing number cancer cases (and deaths) by millions, because some girls who receive the HPA vaccine are complaining about health problems that cannot be tied to the HPA vaccine?

Those girls are sluts and whores who deserve everything they get because it was their choice to do this disgusting thing called sex. Didn't you get the memo? Ironically I know quite a few people who swear that their already teenage daughters will only have sex with one person their entire lives. I advise all of them to unfriend their daughters on facebook the moment they leave the nest because it usually isn't pretty (from his vantage point at least).

 

[Paratus]

https://screen.yahoo.com/hpv-vaccine-thousands-suffer-serious-092208211.html

Mothers in Europe have been reporting problems with the HPV vaccine's having possible side effects. Imagine you get your 14 year old daughter a vaccine and it causes side effects ruining her health for the rest of her life. Health community is in denial and refuses to consider this possible without proof.

Now imagine watching your daughter die from an easily preventable cancer because you listened to some idiots on the Internet. Just imagine.

I got my HPV vaccine when I was 22. Now, I am a lizard.

Goddamn Big Pharma

A lizard? Like a Newt? Or more like Godzilla. If it was more like Godzilla that might be fun.

If it was like a newt I understand you can get better. :sneaky:

 

[IronWing]

A lizard? Like a Newt? Or more like Godzilla. If it was more like Godzilla that might be fun.

If it was like a newt I understand you can get better. :sneaky:

A skank, maybe? :biggrin:

 

[Paratus]

A skank, maybe? :biggrin:

 

[TheVrolok]

It saddens me that people still parrot this patently false pseudoscience drivel.

 

[IronWing]

It saddens me that people still parrot this patently false pseudoscience drivel.

He got better!

 

[piasabird]

How long did it take to prove smoking cigarettes causes cancer?

My point is you could be destroying your child's health. It is worth considering there could be some people showing side effects. You can decide for yourself.

Remember how the country would not admit Agent Orange was killing people?

It takes years of use sometimes before side effects and birth defects start showing up. Many drugs were approved for use but the side effects did not show up till years later.

 

[WHAMPOM]

The Polio vaccine would mutate and infect one in a million and infect 50,000 without it, good reason to skip the fix right?

edit: that was the oral vaccine that used a different system then the injectable serum.

 

[nakedfrog]

https://screen.yahoo.com/hpv-vaccine-thousands-suffer-serious-092208211.html

Mothers in Europe have been reporting problems with the HPV vaccine's having possible side effects. Imagine you get your 14 year old daughter a vaccine and it causes side effects ruining her health for the rest of her life. Health community is in denial and refuses to consider this possible without proof.

Meanwhile, here in the USA, we had mothers reporting that their child's autism was caused by vaccinations.

How long did it take to prove smoking cigarettes causes cancer?

My point is you could be destroying your child's health. It is worth considering there could be some people showing side effects. You can decide for yourself.

Remember how the country would not admit Agent Orange was killing people?

It takes years of use sometimes before side effects and birth defects start showing up. Many drugs were approved for use but the side effects did not show up till years later.

My point is that perhaps some actual supporting evidence would be good to have before running around saying the HPV vaccine will ruin your child's health.

 

[WHAMPOM]

The autism/vaccine connection, autism shows up in mostly in the two to six year old range, vaccinations are given in the same age range. A study of twelve was the origin of the scare and disproven by later studies.

edit; That was an European study of twelve, maybe we should look up the origin and credentials of the study a bit closer.

 

[Mxylplyx]

My point is you could be destroying your child's health. It is worth considering there could be some people showing side effects. You can decide for yourself.

I suspect that you have already made up your mind and are not swayed by evidence.

And no, unless you have a degree in immunology and have done more intensive research than a few simple google queries, you cannot decide for yourself. You are not qualified to decide for yourself, so let the smart people decide for you. It's cute and all for people such as yourself to believe the oft repeated mantra that you know whats best for you and your family, but when it comes to most health matters, and especially immunizations, you don't know best, so please stop pretending that you do.

 

[JSt0rm]

How long did it take to prove smoking cigarettes causes cancer?

My point is you could be destroying your child's health. It is worth considering there could be some people showing side effects. You can decide for yourself.

Remember how the country would not admit Agent Orange was killing people?

It takes years of use sometimes before side effects and birth defects start showing up. Many drugs were approved for use but the side effects did not show up till years later.

Stop being stupid.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

How long did it take to prove smoking cigarettes causes cancer?

My point is you could be destroying your child's health. It is worth considering there could be some people showing side effects. You can decide for yourself.

Remember how the country would not admit Agent Orange was killing people?

It takes years of use sometimes before side effects and birth defects start showing up. Many drugs were approved for use but the side effects did not show up till years later.

So, absent any proof, we should avoid using vaccines because they may have harmful side effects that we don't yet know about... even though we already know the negative effects of NOT getting vaccinated (which, in the case of the HPV vaccine, is contracting a disease that drastically increases the risk of certain cancers)? That's a really shitty way of doing basic risk assessment. Most people who get diagnosed with autism wear shoes; are you willing to stop wearing shoes forever on the completely unproven claim that shoes are responsible for autism? After all, you don't know what future research will tell us about having our feet kept inside a shoe all the time; it might be killing us without us ever knowing! Granted, it might actually be helping us by providing a barrier between direct contact with a germ-covered ground... BUT WHO KNOWS?

You can't live your life hoping that scientific breakthroughs eventually disprove our current understanding, because while it's certainly possible (even likely), you have absolutely no basis for choosing which science to heed or ignore in the present. It's a random-ass guess. And in the case of anti-vaccination rhetoric, it's a random-ass guess driven by mindless paranoia, which has a very poor track record of correctly anticipating what science will be disproved by future generations.

 

[JSt0rm]

What he really wants is people who behave badly get punished.

The RR hated it when this vaccine became available. They see stds as gods way of punishing people who have sex out of wedlock because bible.

 

[abj13]

How long did it take to prove smoking cigarettes causes cancer?

My point is you could be destroying your child's health. It is worth considering there could be some people showing side effects. You can decide for yourself.

Remember how the country would not admit Agent Orange was killing people?

It takes years of use sometimes before side effects and birth defects start showing up. Many drugs were approved for use but the side effects did not show up till years later.

I suggest you stop posting on the internet. Why? How do you know that using the internet doesn't cause birth defects? How do we know that the internet won't cause side effects that will not show up until later? WHY WON'T YOU THINK OF THE CHILDREN MAIMED BY THE EVIL INTERNET???