HP ZE5620! rocks? or sucks?

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dbarton

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After rebate, an HP ze5620 is about $850.

It seems to have a 60g drive. 2.8 celeron, 512m memory and 802.11g.

That all semes quite good for the price. I guess I'd prefer more battery, but for this price range, seems very good.

Any opinions on other machines to look at, or HP notebooks in general? The demo one at the store had a broken mouse pad, which wasn't such a good first impression.

 
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Abhi

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Avoid the celeron. At the same price, you might manage to get a Athlon Xp - M machine from HP ....

Nice loaded lappy otherwise though.....
 
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dbarton

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I understand that the Celeron is not the fastest processor, but is there an actual reason to *avoid* it? A 2.8 Celeron seems like it'd be fast enough. How does one compare that to equiv P4 speeds?

My feeling is that for her a large drive was part of what made that machine so nice.

That Dell seems faster, but with less memory and a small drive is that really better for her?

(At $850 the HP has DVD/CDRWm, 60g. 512m)

I should mention she is NOT a gamer, and does WP, Excel, Internet, plays MP3s and watches DVDs.
 
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Frightcrawler

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There is no reason to avoid celeron. In fact, mobile celerons have 256k caches, which makes them better than p III's (because celerons are higher clocked).
The reason most people avoid it is because it kind of pales in comparison to the other intel notebook processors. All around, it's good enough. It's not like you cant burn cds or watch movies on it.

You dont see people comparing celerons to PIII's, do you? :) Comparing it to a P4 is just unfair.
 
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txxxx

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Originally posted by: Frightcrawler
There is no reason to avoid celeron. In fact, mobile celerons have 256k caches, which makes them better than p III's (because celerons are higher clocked).
The reason most people avoid it is because it kind of pales in comparison to the other intel notebook processors. All around, it's good enough. It's not like you cant burn cds or watch movies on it.

You dont see people comparing celerons to PIII's, do you? :) Comparing it to a P4 is just unfair.
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Just come out from under your rock? :)

To cut a long story short, the P4 based Celeron's are cache starved, even at 2.8ghz+, an AMD 1.8ghz T-Bred could give it a good spanking.
 
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thuned

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Originally posted by: Abhi
See the charts on page no. 4 ... onwards...
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Seriously though, what kind of internet browser, email program, officer suite, or dvd player is going to require more than a p3-1ghz (which looks like what the celery 2.6-2.8ghz is performing at). Processor speeds are too overrated these days (keep in mind I'm talking about non-gamers and non-professionals). When are they going to make those hdd's that have 200megs/s+ sustained transfer speeds and 1ms seek times(no, I'm too poor for scsi).
 
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Abhi

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Originally posted by: thuned
Originally posted by: Abhi
See the charts on page no. 4 ... onwards...
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Seriously though, what kind of internet browser, email program, officer suite, or dvd player is going to require more than a p3-1ghz (which looks like what the celery 2.6-2.8ghz is performing at). Processor speeds are too overrated these days (keep in mind I'm talking about non-gamers and non-professionals). When are they going to make those hdd's that have 200megs/s+ sustained transfer speeds and 1ms seek times(no, I'm too poor for scsi).
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The point is not what u need, point is what you get for your money...

For the same money, or a little more, you can get a better machine, which will perform much better.

I used to own a celery 1.2 ghz laptop...
 
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beyoku

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never get a celery. I would say borrow or even steal the extra 200.oo that could get you a p4. You can even get an athlon 64 hp lappy if you want to go that route for that price.
 
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I agree with most of the posts and I suggest you avoid the celeron. In all honesty, I believe the only reason celeron's sell is because many customers who buy from Circuit City or Best Buy aren't quite aware (or don't care) of the low performance/price these processors actually give. If you want to stay in the same price range I would seriously consider an Athlon XP-M. If you're die-hard intel go with a lower clocked P4 system which you can probably get for about the same price.

Also in response to frightcrawler, just because the P4 Celeron has the same processor cache as a PIII, it doesn't by any means make the celeron automatically better. The PIII is a different architecture. The P4 NEEDS more bandwidth and low-latency memory in order to be a better performer.
 
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trungthiendo

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get the xp-m laptop from hp its like 700. why get a celeron when you can have a better processor...2500+ will spank any celeron out there, unless its a celeron M
 
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orion7144

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What about swapping the processor out on some of these cheap (after rebate) HP/Compaq machines? I mean if you can swap the processor out it would be a good deal. BB has the Compaq w/15",DVD/CdRW,etc.. for $699 after rebate.
 
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brennan77

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Take the advice given. For the same price or less, you can get a very similar system based on an XP-M Barton core with 512kb of cache. That's a much nicer CPU than the celeron. In fact, I just bought an HP ze4430 a couple of months ago. It's very good for the price. Don't expect to game on it, but for a reasonably priced laptop, it's got a lot of nicely integrated features.
 
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