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HP Worst Customer Service Ever

cjacksonlasd

Junior Member


HP Has the worst customer service and support:

Long story short I purchased the New Dv7t Quad Edition (top of the line: i7 CPU / AMD 7690m XT GPU) on Feb 6. Contacted tech support 3 days later on February 9th, complaining of my AMD graphic card driver support issues. I was informed HP will send out an updated driver in weeks (the current driver is from 2010). I waited patiently for the new driver, 3 months later still nothing. The issue is the AMD 7690m XT graphics card HP was placing in their laptops for a short time, is faulty and has poorly design drivers, nearly every forum on the internet has HP customers complaining of how bad the AMD 7690 graphics card is (check HP Forums - Notebook - Display/Video: You will see many threads on the 7690 issues). With the AMD 7690 most 3d application and game runs very slowly, if they run at all. I have found numerous PC Games that will not run, and crashes the computer (this is also stated by many HP users on the forums). As a brand new laptop, with top of the line specs, this should not be happening. Even more disturbing, after looking into the 7690m XT graphics card, we are learning it is an older graphics card, the 6770 from 2010, relabeled as the 7690 as a marketing gimmick.


I learned from the HP forums (7690m XT = HP Horrible Driver Support Thread - which I started and is now the longest thread on HP Forums) that HP has moved to the Nvidia graphic cards which don't have the issues that AMD graphic cards do, and that all the users of the Nvidia graphics are happy with their laptops. Also on the forums everyone who purchased their Dv7t within the past 60 days are getting free exchanges to the newer model Dv7t with the Nvidia graphics card which was released two weeks ago (everything else on the laptops are identical and at the same costs), as a result of the AMD 7690 graphic card complaints and issues. However I was informed by the HP returns department that because their policy states exchanges may only occur up to 60 days grace period, (I am at 88 days now) that I cannot get the exchange even though I have the same issue, same model, and same complaint as everyone else.


How is this fair to me?When as a loyal HP customer, purchased the top of the line HP model at the time three months ago, a laptop that should handle anything thrown at it, where a customer shouldn't have to spend weeks of researching in hopes of finding a tweak to make it work, and that because I had faith in HP support to fix the issue (which will never come), to find out that I went over 60 days and now I can't get my exchange. I am shocked that no manager is able to go over their 60 policy when it makes no sense as I am being penalized because I purchased my laptop 28 days earlier then other people. How is this fair in any business practice? So I am being penalized for being a loyal customer waiting for a fix, to find out there will be no fix, now because I am 28 days past exchange policy I can't get the same exchange as everyone else. And there are MANY of other customers out there with the same issue.


Now in regards to the HP tech support, they are horrible. They never answer their emails and return our phone calls. They speak down to us, like we know nothing about computers, when I know I could teach them a thing or two. They have us send in our laptops to HP, do a factory reset, and send us back our laptops in the same condition, after we told them the issue is lack of proper drivers, and they never checked 3d applications to see how our laptops cannot run any current programs. The worst thing was yesterday when a case manager "John" had the nerve to tell me that "It is my fault that I purchased a laptop that doesn't meet my needs!" Are you kidding me, after spending $1,400 on a top of the line laptop, everything upgraded to the highest specs I could select, advertized with "mind blowing effects and explosive gaming in stereoscoptic 3d," a laptop that should be able to blow through any application thrown at it, without a single issue in the world. I have never been so insulted in my life.


The Case Managers are telling me that I selected the AMD 7690mXT, which was the highest option I could select 3 months ago, and it is my fault for selecting a graphics card that cant handle any of today's games because of a lack of driver support.That is like going to a car lot and purchasing a Porsche to find out it has an old Pinto engine under the hood.This a false advertising, and wrong for any customer service agent to tell this to a customer.

What the tech department refuses to admit is HP utilized a graphics card that was advertised as top of the line, that has faulty driver support, that doesn't meet the needs of their customers. Now HP has a proper graphics card, the Nvidia 650m, but won't follow their own policy of an exchange: "HP WILL, AT ITS SOLE DISCRETION, REPAIR OR REPLACE ANY COMPONENT OR HARDWARE PRODUCT THAT MANIFESTS A DEFECT IN MATERIALS OR WORKMANSHIP DURING THE LIMITED WARRANTY PERIOD OF 2 YEARS. IN THE UNLIKELY EVENT THAT YOUR HP HARDWARE PRODUCT HAS RECURRING FAILURES, HP AT IT SOLE DISCRETION MAY ELECT TO PROVIDE YOU WITH (A) A REPLACEMENT UNIT SELECTED BY HP THAT IS THE SAME OR EQUIVALENT TO YOUR HP HARDWARE PRODUCT IN PERFORMANCE OR (B) GIVE YOU A REFUND OF YOUR PURCHASE PRICE."The HP case managers tell me that by their policy all they can do is take out the poorly designed AMD 7690 graphics card and place in another poorly designed AMD 7690 graphics card.That doesn't solve the issue I spent top dollar for a top of the line laptop, that has massively inferior graphics card.



PS. If you want to see one of these forums here is a link: http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Notebook-Display-and-Video/7690M-GPU-HP-HORRIBLE-DRIVER-SUPPORT/td-p/1254859

Let this be a warning - DO NOT BUY HP

 
Wow that situation sucks (followed your link and read some of the discussion). I'll be honest, I've been in the market for a new laptop and was researching this model. It sounds like the issues you describe are good now but your situation may have just taken hp off the list regardless.
 
The problem with laptop manufacturers are the blocking of reference drivers and whitelists. There should be no list.
 
2 posts and he decides to write an essay against HP here?

It is...

1. A cry for help... Blast HP in every techie forum and see if one of HP's social media people ride in to the rescue with resources.

2. He is done fighting HP and wants to do damage to their brand.
 
You can <insert brand name> has the worst support evar!! to just about every company out there, as much volume as they sell everyone has their issues. It seems this lax in graphics drivers is coming from the way windows 7 and laptops support the switch between integrated and discreet graphics. Apparently you can't just throw new drivers in when they aren't modified because one will just break the other. Your link contains the best advice to get 12.2 running on your laptop. This isn't just HP either, ATI is mostly to blame for this mess. The fact that 12.2 didn't even support the 7690 yet is appalling, and ATI released their flagship GPU's a month or two ahead of driver support for it. It sad to see with the 7 series, ATI has seemed to go back to their old ways of crappy software. The only good switchable graphics solution right now is Nvidia Optimus, but even it is tied down on graphics drivers. I'm still running a driver that's 8 months old on the T520. (I7/540M)
 
You can <insert brand name> has the worst support evar!!

Very true.

I had a custom built HP made for me about 10 years ago, paid $1800 for it... it didn't last 1 year; it spent more time at the warranty shop than on my desk. I refuse to buy HP ANYTHING if I can help it (and I haven't since then...) but I'll acknowledge there are probably 20 people for every 'me' that think HP is the greatest thing ever. It's all based on your personal experience.

Right now there seems to be a lot of piling on of OCZ SSD's... I have one and love it. HHDs, mobos, PSUs, and probably especially GPUs... all have good stories and bad. Hardware is hardware... there will always be faults with it and I understand that. Customer service is another story... you don't back up your brand or have a proper mechanism in place to deal with failed hardware issues, well, you deserve everything you get.
 
Very true.

I had a custom built HP made for me about 10 years ago, paid $1800 for it... it didn't last 1 year; it spent more time at the warranty shop than on my desk. I refuse to buy HP ANYTHING if I can help it (and I haven't since then...) but I'll acknowledge there are probably 20 people for every 'me' that think HP is the greatest thing ever. It's all based on your personal experience.

Right now there seems to be a lot of piling on of OCZ SSD's... I have one and love it. HHDs, mobos, PSUs, and probably especially GPUs... all have good stories and bad. Hardware is hardware... there will always be faults with it and I understand that. Customer service is another story... you don't back up your brand or have a proper mechanism in place to deal with failed hardware issues, well, you deserve everything you get.

Agreed on all your points. I have an hp 9550t custom built (about 2800$ with the extended warranty and all when i got it). Core 2 T7400 with the 8600M graphics and a 120GB OCZ Vertex 2 SSD in one bay and a Seagate 500GB HD in the other. I love the system and it's still my couch surfer and plays my steam games and lower settings flawlessly. This laptop has been beaten in ways no laptop should be beaten over the years, and it went through a couple of next day accidental repairs because of it. It did have the GPU implosion issue at about 1.8 years, where there was a pop and the screen was all different colors (while I was gaming). They repaired it with next day shipping, but that's why I had the 3 year ADR warranty. But I hear the generations after mine got crappy, and today the only laptops I recommend are business models (be it probooks, thinkpads ect). The only consumer model that I have found stands behind their current products is ASUS. So I recommend the Asus G series for gaming, still the two models I like are 1600 and 1800$ respectively.

Gotta pay to play on a laptop.
 
It is weird, because people hate on HP all the time, but every HP I've ever owned has been literally bulletproof. I had an incredibly cheap HP-Compaq years ago ('04) that had liquids of various kinds spilled on it, dropped from ~ 3ft onto concrete, etc. The only thing I had to replace was the keyboard, and not because it stopped working, but because it was sticky 😀

I've also had an HP Mini that is still going strong after two years, an HP DM1z that is awesome, and my girlfriend has a dv4t that she is very happy with.

My point: There is none, just wanted to point out I have had awesome luck with HPs. Never contacted their support though, so can't say anything about that.


I've also had excellent luck with Gateway, but that was pre-merger. I wouldn't buy a Gateway now. Acer (and the brands they own) is the only brand I actively avoid. I've seen terrible, terrible things...
 
The problem with laptop manufacturers are the blocking of reference drivers and whitelists. There should be no list.

This x1000.

When i had my dell lappy i wouldve been up shit creek without this website:

http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/

I had nvidia 8600 and vista which was an awful combination at the time, it would probably never have worked if i didn't use the drivers on there.

Sucks for the OP though, dont know of any sites that do the same for AMD cards.
 
It is...

1. A cry for help... Blast HP in every techie forum and see if one of HP's social media people ride in to the rescue with resources.

2. He is done fighting HP and wants to do damage to their brand.

cjacksonlasd issue sound more like a problem with his AMD Radeon HD 7690M graphics card driver than HP itself. Next time buy Nvidia chipset.
 
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I had 3 HP laptops and I had issues with 2 of them, but HP took care of me really good.

The first one I had an issue with was the Envy 17 2nd Gen i7 model, I kept getting random BSOD/Restarts (ended up being an ATI/AMD driver issue). Called in support and they wanted me to send it in for repair, then they called the next day and said cancel that repair, we are going to send you a new laptop (with way higher specs) for the inconvenience and send back the old laptop when you receive the new one. I had no issues with the 2nd one, I ended up selling it because it was way too overboard for what I needed (mainly the 3D screen with glasses).
The 2nd one was the Envy 15. I had an issue with lines in the screen. I had at home service for this laptop and the tech came out to replace the screen and he ended up cracking one corner by the screen hinge. The HP rep said i would have to send it in to get it replaced, I stated I can not be without a laptop that is why I had at home support. About a week later they sent a new laptop, same config, and it came with dead pixels on the screen. I called support again pissed off and they ended up giving me a full refund after I sent both laptops in at no expense to me. This was about 3 months after owning the laptop.

I highly doubt Dell or any other manufacturer would do this. When I ordered a Dell XPS17 before they told me there would be a restocking fee if I returned the unit. The screen was god awful and I ended up lying to the rep saying the whole unit was defective to avoid the restocking fee. I don't like doing that but buying a 1000+ laptop and the hardware isn't up to par, I don't see how the consumer at a loss of money.
 
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