How's this for all you Intel & Rambus fans?

Krash

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7/18/00 - Rambus Pact Sets Limit On DDR Chip Sets
Intel is essentially barred from introducing its own double data rate (DDR) chip set for microprocessors in PCs before 2003, under terms of its 1997 licensing agreement with Rambus.
Industry sources said the virtually unknown restriction explains why Intel recently licensed patents for chip set support of DDR memories to Via Technologies, Acer Laboratories, and Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS) in Taiwan. The pacts allow the three companies to offer DDR chip sets for Intel's Pentium III and Celeron processors.
A spokesman for Intel, Santa Clara, Calif., denied the company's DDR chip set deals had any connection with Intel's ownRambus licensing agreement. He agreed, however, that independent chip set suppliers could fill a void for DDR support in PCs with Pentium III and Celeron processors, since Intel has no DDR products.
DDR chip sets are becoming a paramount concern for Intel, since later this year Athlon processors from archrival Advanced Micro Devices will be supported by a bevy of new DDR chips. Unable to sell any of its own DDR chip sets for PCs, Intel has been forced to rely on other suppliers to provide logic/memory controllers to compete against AMD's high-end central processor.
Two obscure clauses in Intel's 1997 licensing pact with Rambus let the Mountain View, Calif., memory design company terminate its agreement with Intel if it introduces chip sets with DDR capabilities supporting memories other than the Direct Rambus DRAM from 2000 to 2002.
 

pm

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Do you have a link to the source of this?

Thanks
 

Thanatopsis

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Krash, links are usually helpful when you quote this kind of info...

(you don't want to be another "hardware")
 

Double Trouble

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Interesting... Intel now has to stand by and *help* VIA take away some of their market share because they're bound by this Rambus deal. How the mighty have fallen.....
 

zippy

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then as a read on

:D

Cool, so via should have a great DDR chipset for the p3 and celery...assuming they (intel) didn't botch it like they did the i820 chipset.
 

DataFly

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This doesn't apply to QDR chipsets, correct (assuming a variant of DDR is not used)? If QDR is unaffected by this, I bet that's what one of Intel's upcoming chipsets is based on.:)
 

Tripleshot

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I might be missing something here,but I don't think so.

If Intel just gave the rights to 3 off premise sources to produce a ddr chipset for it's Pentium class cpu's,it sounds like smart business.I don't see Intel losing on this at all.(I do see heads rolling in the halls of Intels legal dept.)

Think about it. Intel doesn't violate the Rambutts agreement,still complies with the heavily invested rimm jobs they signed on to for the next 900 days,and allows 3 manufacturers to produce a ddr/qdr solution for its processors,helping to keep ram prices in check---dependant on supply and demand. No demand for week rambutts and plenty of suplly for ddr for AMD and Intel.

I like it.
 

apoppin

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It looks like Intel is doing what it has to do. It is pretty obvious they are disenchanted with the Rambus agreement and are doing the best they can. Either way, they should come out all right. Smart business move on their part.

I doubt that QDR is an option for them; they committed themselves to RDRAM till 2003. But they should not have any problems supporting their CPUs by licensing other companies to produce DDRAM.

Now, what I want to know is how the heck did they get into a SIX YEAR AGREEMENT with Rambus??? Pretty shortsighted (20/20 hindsight).
 

1KrazyFool

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I think I agree with Tripleshot.

Intel may be finally waking up and smelling the coffee with respect to Rambus. Sensing defeat, they get other chipset manufacturers to make chipsets for their CPUs. Hopefully, Intel will give them some guidence on how to make these chipsets rock with the Pentium X and Celeron X lines, like the BX. Therefore they will continue to sell CPUs and make some money.

Wouldn't it be great if Intel didn't put out ANY more rambus boards at all? I doubt it of course, but who knows. They may give up if rambus sucks too much (which as we've already seen, appears to be the case.) All the while, they work on their own DDR/QDR/whatever next-gen chipsets and mobos to debut in three years.

Very interesting. Sort of a smack back in the face of rambus. :)
 

apoppin

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Intel doesn't have to wait. The pact with Rambus is only for desktop CPUs. Their server line (Foster, etc.) will use Intel designed and made DDRAM chipsets - NOT RDRAM.
 

Ronstang

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I agree with Tripleshot, makes good (very good) busines sense considering Rambus has basically screwed Intel so far.

BTW Tripleshot is your statement "still complies with the heavily invested rimm jobs they signed on to for next 900 days" intendedt to be a pun (rimm jobs, hehe) or did it just turn out that way?
 

BigToque

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What if Intel just decided to not bother with DDR and just start pushing out the the technology after DDR, right now.
 

Sillyputty

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Intel deserves this bending-over. They continue to lie to the consumer about the benefits of RDRAM, wholly discounting the findings of professionals from the web to the lab. Now they say that the benchmarks themselves are flawed. Foo on that, and foo on them. Lie to me once, shame on you. Lie to me twice, shame on me.

This Rambus fiasco is just getting worse as the months pass. First, there was the MTH flaw that led to a 300 Million-dollar recall of mobos that were equipped with it, then Rambus sued various DRAM manufacturers for patent violations, now this. I'm glad that the people who frequent this board have enough sense to avoid this crap and build their own systems. If there were only LOTS more of you, perhaps we wouldn't have to deal with the human excrement that is Rambus.

If Intel doesn't have the balls or the clout to flush Rambus down the toilet, no one does.