How's my new computer build?

dyzzy

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I've heard Anandtech is a good tech forum, so I wanted to ask what you guys think about my new computer build. How does it look? I'm planning to buy it mid-August, so of course the price of the CPU will have dropped. However, I'm planning to buy the parts with mail-in pretty soon so I can get the rebates back as quickly as possible.

Thanks for any input you can give!
 

SKORPI0

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Not bad.

Just remember to wait till July 22nd for the E6600 to become $255 instead of $480 right now.
 

hurtstotalktoyou

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The CPU you picked out is about to drop in price by about 50% ($264) on July 22. I would wait until then if you want a quad-core.

I'd also consider a better motherboard. Something like the Gigabyte GA-965-DS3 would be nice. Why do you want an integrated board, anyway?

Maybe a build like this might be faster yet save you some money:

>LG GSA-H54NK OEM DVD burner -- cheap but reliable
>Philips SPD2413BD retail DVD burner -- also cheap and reliable; two burners ensure compatibility with nearly all media, and an extra couple of dollars for a retail model earns you a legal copy of Nero
>Raidmax Apex ATX-802BP ATX mid-tower w/450W PSU -- a very nice case, recommended by Anandtech; it has a sleek look, sturdy construction, no sharp inside edges, and comes with a 450W PSU you can either use as a spare or sell for a few extra bucks
>Koutech IO-FPM220 floppy drive w/23-in-1 card reader -- God knows why you think you need a card reader, but if you do, I agree this is the one to get
>2x320GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 SATA/3.0 -- instead of getting one of those ridiculously overpriced Raptors, get yourself an extra Seagate and run it in RAID 1 for data safety; resist the urge to run RAID 0!
>eVGA 320-P2-N811-AR GeForce 8800GTS 320MB -- I actually recommend you try and find something less painfully expensive than this mother******, but not being a gamer I can't offer an alternative; so here's what you picked out
>2GB (2x1GB) Wintec AMPO DDR2-800 SDRAM -- this is unbeatable for the price; it's extremely reliable, and nearly as fast as the OCZ "Platinum" memory you had picked out, but it's a full $40 less
>Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3 motherboard -- that Intel board you had picked out would have been trouble; it only has two PCI slots, a dubious form factor, and it's not even compatible with the DDR2 memory you had planned to buy; in contrast, the DS3 is recognized as one of the best LGA775 boards on the market
>Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 -- even when this comes down in price it will still be iffy in terms of value; I'd recommend the Core 2 Duo E6320, if you don't mind dropping down to two cores; otherwise, though, the Q6600 is your CPU

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...p?item=N82E16827136119
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...p?item=N82E16827248006
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...p?item=N82E16811156074
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...p?item=N82E16813998514
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...p?item=N82E16822148140
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/...p?item=N82E16814130082
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...p?item=N82E16817104037
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...p?item=N82E16820161172
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...p?item=N82E16813128012
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...p?item=N82E16819115017
 

dyzzy

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Ooh a nice lengthy post!

Originally posted by: hurtstotalktoyou
I'd also consider a better motherboard. Something like the Gigabyte GA-965-DS3 would be nice. Why do you want an integrated board, anyway?
Do you mean integrated video? I really don't care, it just happened to be on the board.

>LG GSA-H54NK OEM DVD burner -- cheap but reliable
>Philips SPD2413BD retail DVD burner -- also cheap and reliable; two burners ensure compatibility with nearly all media, and an extra couple of dollars for a retail model earns you a legal copy of Nero
The first burner is only $2 cheaper - doesn't make too much of a difference, since I trust Samsung burners. Really I think I only need one burner, since I've never had the need to have more than one, but if I need a second one I'll get it later.
>Raidmax Apex ATX-802BP ATX mid-tower w/450W PSU -- a very nice case, recommended by Anandtech; it has a sleek look, sturdy construction, no sharp inside edges, and comes with a 450W PSU you can either use as a spare or sell for a few extra bucks
It's a good case, I agree. However, I chose my case for a reason: it's small. I know there are downsides to mini-towers, but I move my computer around fairly often (moving in and out of school, also for the occasional LAN party). Thus, my priority is a small, light case. Also, I've heard good things about the Centurion series.
>Koutech IO-FPM220 floppy drive w/23-in-1 card reader -- God knows why you think you need a card reader, but if you do, I agree this is the one to get
Really this is just an extra part, but I am a photo enthusiast and I've read around that it's more efficient to transfer pictures in a card reader instead of the cable from the camera.
>2x320GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 SATA/3.0 -- instead of getting one of those ridiculously overpriced Raptors, get yourself an extra Seagate and run it in RAID 1 for data safety; resist the urge to run RAID 0!
How I've always done things is have one small disc for my OS and programs to be installed on and another larger one for data. It works for me because I love to fiddle with my main partition and I feel safer if it's on a separate disk than the rest of my data. But having a RAID might not be a bad idea.
>eVGA 320-P2-N811-AR GeForce 8800GTS 320MB -- I actually recommend you try and find something less painfully expensive than this mother******, but not being a gamer I can't offer an alternative; so here's what you picked out
Not much to say, really, except that I am a gamer so I do need a good video card (hey, at least it's not one of those 8800GTX's)
>2GB (2x1GB) Wintec AMPO DDR2-800 SDRAM -- this is unbeatable for the price; it's extremely reliable, and nearly as fast as the OCZ "Platinum" memory you had picked out, but it's a full $40 less
$45 mail-in rebate makes the OCZ cheaper in the end.
>Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3 motherboard -- that Intel board you had picked out would have been trouble; it only has two PCI slots, a dubious form factor, and it's not even compatible with the DDR2 memory you had planned to buy; in contrast, the DS3 is recognized as one of the best LGA775 boards on the market
I'm pretty much firm on micro ATX because, like I said earlier, I want a small computer. Also, I don't even use PCI slots (though I've always liked to keep one handy for a possible sound card upgrade), and somehow Newegg got the specs wrong on the memory - it does indeed support DDR2. On another note, I did consider this Gigabyte mobo but decided it wasn't worth the $40 over the Intel one. But maybe it is?
>Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 -- even when this comes down in price it will still be iffy in terms of value; I'd recommend the Core 2 Duo E6320, if you don't mind dropping down to two cores; otherwise, though, the Q6600 is your CPU
Eh, better safe than sorry I figured. Might as well pull all the stops and get a quad core CPU so that it doesn't come back and bite me in the ass.

Also, you linked to a PSU but didn't comment on it. What's up with that? On that topic, I'd prefer a modular PSU (like the one I linked) because I'm horrible at cable management. But how much wattage do I need (is 580 too much, too little, or just right)? I was thinking of http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16817128006 but wasn't sure if it was enough wattage.
 

hurtstotalktoyou

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Originally posted by: dyzzy

The first burner is only $2 cheaper - doesn't make too much of a difference, since I trust Samsung burners. Really I think I only need one burner, since I've never had the need to have more than one, but if I need a second one I'll get it later.

If you like Samsung, go for it. Still, I wouldn't rule out the Philips drive I mentioned, which is the same price, but slightly faster and includes a legal copy of Nero. Either way is fine, of course, but the Philips is what I'd recommend.

It's a good case, I agree. However, I chose my case for a reason: it's small. I know there are downsides to mini-towers, but I move my computer around fairly often (moving in and out of school, also for the occasional LAN party). Thus, my priority is a small, light case. Also, I've heard good things about the Centurion series.

Hmm. I didn't notice it was mATX; interesting. Well, that is a nice case, I agree, but I see two... not problems, exactly, but drawbacks: Firstly, it has a front firewire port, which means that you either have to spend extra on a firewire card (which uses up an expansion slot, which is a big deal for mATX systems) or firewire-capable motherboard, or else you're stuck with an inoperative front port, which in my opinion seems a bit tacky. Second, you must mail in a rebate form in order to get a good deal, which is both inconvenient and unreliable.

Ordinarily, I'd recommend the Raidmax Apex mid-tower, but since you want something small, why not consider this:

Foxconn TLM436-CN300C-01 ($37.99+$14.84)

It's a nice-looking case, from the pictures at least. According to the reviews, it's solidly-constructed and has no sharp edges inside (a lot of cases will cut you up when you build your system). In the words of one reviewer:

This is a budget case. However, it is probably the best built budget case I've seen. It is sturdy, has rounded edges on internal metal, has lots of room for drives, and is an excellent match for a budget microATX board.

Plus, it has a few advantages over the Coolermaster: Like the Raidmax mid-tower, this too includes a PSU you can keep as a spare or sell on Ebay. It also includes a cooling fan, which is one less you need buy separately. Moreover, it's a couple inches smaller (7.0x14.0x16.5) than the Coolermaster (7.1x15.4x16.6). The Foxconn has only USB and audio ports in front, so you don't need to worry about non-functional ports or spending extra on firewire. Finally, the Foxconn is $12 cheaper out the door, $2 after Coolermaster's rebate (assuming you would actually get it), a few more dollars cheaper once you factor in the cost of case fans, and a couple dollars cheaper still if you sell the PSU.

Now, these differences are all minor, so if you *really* like that Coolermaster, you needn't worry that you're getting fleeced. Still, the Foxconn gives you an option to save money and avoid inconvenience without cutting corners. I definitely recommend it.

How I've always done things is have one small disc for my OS and programs to be installed on and another larger one for data. It works for me because I love to fiddle with my main partition and I feel safer if it's on a separate disk than the rest of my data. But having a RAID might not be a bad idea.

I do it that way, too, with a separate storage drive. However, on your budget I would definitely consider two Seagates in RAID 0 for important data, regardless of whether you decide to get a Raptor as well.

$45 mail-in rebate makes the OCZ cheaper in the end.

True--if you actually get the rebate. Remember, they're always hit-or-miss, regardless of the company. Even assuming you get the $45 back, though, don't you think it's worth an extra $5 net to avoid the hassle and wait?

I'm pretty much firm on micro ATX because, like I said earlier, I want a small computer. Also, I don't even use PCI slots (though I've always liked to keep one handy for a possible sound card upgrade), and somehow Newegg got the specs wrong on the memory - it does indeed support DDR2. On another note, I did consider this Gigabyte mobo but decided it wasn't worth the $40 over the Intel one. But maybe it is?

Hmm. Good question. Regardless of what you choose, though, you *must not* get the Intel board you picked out. It does not support DDR2, which means it will not be compatible with the memory you're planning on getting. Instead, it takes DDR3 memory, which at the moment is ridiculously overpriced ($400 for 2GB).

Now, there are only a handful of mATX boards which support quad core. The cheapest of them are also the least reliable, which on your budget is unacceptable. In the end, although you could save a *few* dollars by going with, say, the Asus P5B-VM DO ($116.99+$6.33), I'd go with the Gigabyte board you mentioned (GA-G33M-DS2R, $134.99+$6.33)). It's reliable, has fantastic features, and, though it is a little expensive, isn't really that much more than anything else that you should consider.

Also, you linked to a PSU but didn't comment on it. What's up with that? On that topic, I'd prefer a modular PSU (like the one I linked) because I'm horrible at cable management. But how much wattage do I need (is 580 too much, too little, or just right)? I was thinking of http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16817128006 but wasn't sure if it was enough wattage.

That has plenty of wattage, and is a good PSU to be sure. However, be sure to check out deals at Frys B&M, if one is near to you. They change their ads about twice a week, and always have some PSU or another on sale.

Good luck, man!
 

dyzzy

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Originally posted by: hurtstotalktoyou
If you like Samsung, go for it. Still, I wouldn't rule out the Philips drive I mentioned, which is the same price, but slightly faster and includes a legal copy of Nero. Either way is fine, of course, but the Philips is what I'd recommend.
Indeed. I won't rule out the Philips drive.

Now, these differences are all minor, so if you *really* like that Coolermaster, you needn't worry that you're getting fleeced. Still, the Foxconn gives you an option to save money and avoid inconvenience without cutting corners. I definitely recommend it.
Very nice case indeed. I'll probably get it over the Cooler Master.

I do it that way, too, with a separate storage drive. However, on your budget I would definitely consider two Seagates in RAID 0 for important data, regardless of whether you decide to get a Raptor as well.
Yeah, that's a good idea. But I'm confused because in your last post you said not to run RAID 0.

True--if you actually get the rebate. Remember, they're always hit-or-miss, regardless of the company. Even assuming you get the $45 back, though, don't you think it's worth an extra $5 net to avoid the hassle and wait?
I've had experiences with mail-in rebates in the past. So IMO I'd rather wait for the rebate.

Hmm. Good question. Regardless of what you choose, though, you *must not* get the Intel board you picked out. It does not support DDR2, which means it will not be compatible with the memory you're planning on getting. Instead, it takes DDR3 memory, which at the moment is ridiculously overpriced ($400 for 2GB).
Just wanted to say again that it actually does support DDR2. But that doesn't really matter anymore because I've decided to go with the Gigabyte.

That has plenty of wattage, and is a good PSU to be sure. However, be sure to check out deals at Frys B&M, if one is near to you. They change their ads about twice a week, and always have some PSU or another on sale.
I wish I lived near a Frys. :(

Thanks again for all your advice.

 

hurtstotalktoyou

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Originally posted by: dyzzyYeah, that's a good idea. But I'm confused because in your last post you said not to run RAID 0.

Oh, oops. I meant RAID 1. RAID 1 backs up your data in real time, which is good. RAID 0 uses two hard disks to speed things up at the cost of additional risk of catastrophic data loss, which IMO is bad--very bad.