Originally posted by: savoyboy
Originally posted by: elbosco
Originally posted by: savoyboy
Originally posted by: daveshel
Big Mormon presence in Mesa. Huge population - something like 120K now, sprawls out forever. Miles and endless Generica.
120K? Try 455K
Try less than 50k. Not everyone in Mesa is Mormon.
sorry. i thought you were talking about Mesa's population.![]()
Originally posted by: AZGamer
I lived in Mesa - I'm moving back once I finish school out here in DC. I don't know why you'd ever leave.
Originally posted by: snoopdoug1
Originally posted by: vi_edit
Also, it's really difficult to compare houses between the midwest and there. We are so used to have basements around here and take that for granted. A lot of people can get by around here with a 1600 sq/ft ranch and have a full basement(finished or unfinished) to stick their crap in.
Not so down there. Very, very, very few homes have basements down there. When it says 1600 sq/ft...they mean 1600 sq/ft. Your only storage is a garage stall or a spare bedroom.
Plus don't expect a back yard. You'll have a 20x10 patch of gravel and a 6'-8' block privacy wall seperating you from your neighbors.
Yeah, I'm really used to that basement. Might be a stupid question, but is the reason they don't have basements there because it's a desert? Not many garages there either?
sorry but do you have a link to that? CNBC reported a couple days ago on the housing market slowdown and Arizona was still a top 5 state in terms of growth. Definitely nowhere near what it was before, but I have heard nothing about regressing prices.Originally posted by: vi_edit
Another post - you are buying at a decent time right now. The AZ real estate market just took a major kick to the crotch. There was a period from 2004 to late 2005 where you could sell your house in a matter of hours and get above asking price for it if you had a nice place in a desireable location. Prices appreciated anywhere from 50%-100% in a two year period.
That came to a crashing hault over the last 8 months or so and prices are actually regressing now. Lots of speculators and investment buyers are forced to sell far below asking and it's flipped to a buyers market.
It's like that in many places in the US, but even more so in AZ.
Originally posted by: elbosco
The Good about Mesa:
The Weather - it was 75*F and sunny today
Sunsets - just beautiful
In n? Out ? nuff? said
Monsoons ? the best lightning storms you will ever be witness to in your life
Job market ? you can get a job here
Fliberto?s ? cheap Mexican food that?s actually good
Road Maintenance ? when not clogged with traffic, the roads and freeways are a joy to drive on
Housing ? it?s a buyer?s market
Arizona ? it?s an amazing state with a wealth of culture and much to do and see.
Location ? 5 hours from LA, San Diego, 4 hours from Vegas, 2 hours from Sedona and Flagstaff
The Bad about Mesa:
Traffic ? it sucks. Urban sprawl at its worst. the suburbs go on forever and this means longer commute times especially since the freeways are under construction
Sports ? let?s face it, most if not all of our professional sports teams blow
Old people ? the only negative aspect about winter is the sheer number of snowbirds the valley attracts. Their slow driving coupled with the aforementioned traffic problems make you root for kavorkian
The Weather ? central arizona has two seasons ? pleasant and blistering heat. AC in your car is a must and I guarantee you will cry like a girl the first time you accidentally grab metal when reaching for your seatbelt in the middle of July
Nightlife ? now mesa itself has no nightlife to speak of, everything in the town is closed by 6pm, sure phoenix, tempe and scottsdale are a 10 minute drive away but it seems more clubs and bars are closing every day
Pollution ? it?s dirty here, plain and simple. There?s an everlasting brown haze hanging over downtown and the desert is filled with trash. Impossible to keep a car clean
Crime ? it?s on the rise
The Water ? buy bottled or get a filter
In a nutshell, not the best place to live, but not that bad either.
Originally posted by: PoPPeR
sorry but do you have a link to that? CNBC reported a couple days ago on the housing market slowdown and Arizona was still a top 5 state in terms of growth. Definitely nowhere near what it was before, but I have heard nothing about regressing prices.Originally posted by: vi_edit
Another post - you are buying at a decent time right now. The AZ real estate market just took a major kick to the crotch. There was a period from 2004 to late 2005 where you could sell your house in a matter of hours and get above asking price for it if you had a nice place in a desireable location. Prices appreciated anywhere from 50%-100% in a two year period.
That came to a crashing hault over the last 8 months or so and prices are actually regressing now. Lots of speculators and investment buyers are forced to sell far below asking and it's flipped to a buyers market.
It's like that in many places in the US, but even more so in AZ.
PHOENIX
Last year as many as a third of new home sales here went to speculators and investors. Many of them are now competing with builders to dump their holdings, and prices in some developments have dropped by more than $100,000.
