How's everyone fighting the new image spam?

mather

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Curious to know if anyone's found a decent solution. I'm getting these stock images with gibberish text in my yahoo and isp accounts.
 

Sinsear

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Originally posted by: mather
Curious to know if anyone's found a decent solution. I'm getting these stock images with gibberish text in my yahoo and isp accounts.

I'm getting the same thing in one of my accounts....gmail account however is not getting them.
 

AdamK47

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Mail in Vista seems to catch them just fine and place them in the junk mail folder.
 

tfinch2

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Originally posted by: SagaLore
New? As a security admin I've seen this stuff since 3 years ago.

I'm not a security admin, and I've seen it about as long too. I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night though.
 

acid45

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Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: SagaLore
New? As a security admin I've seen this stuff since 3 years ago.

I'm not a security admin, and I've seen it about as long too. I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night though.

lolll
 
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I've found it easiest to use this little picture program.

Spammer sends me an email
My client sends them an email back asking them to identify how many kitties are in a picture
If they click the right number, their message is allowed through and added to the ok list

Then I set the client to delete all mail that has a "Delivery failure"/"mail daemon" or whatever error in the subject

This ensures I only get the emails from actual people. Then if it's junk I just block their domain, or ok a domain if I want to receive mail from everyone at an organization.

Out of about 4500 emails a week, I may get 2 that show up in my inbox that are spam.
 

Kaido

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Yahoo does a great job of filtering them. I get at most 2 a month in my inbox.
 

sao123

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Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones
I've found it easiest to use this little picture program.

Spammer sends me an email
My client sends them an email back asking them to identify how many kitties are in a picture
If they click the right number, their message is allowed through and added to the ok list

Then I set the client to delete all mail that has a "Delivery failure"/"mail daemon" or whatever error in the subject

This ensures I only get the emails from actual people. Then if it's junk I just block their domain, or ok a domain if I want to receive mail from everyone at an organization.

Out of about 4500 emails a week, I may get 2 that show up in my inbox that are spam.


very interesting... I htink id like to hear more about this system...
what software specifically?
what email client?
cost?
 

Tiamat

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Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones
I've found it easiest to use this little picture program.

Spammer sends me an email
My client sends them an email back asking them to identify how many kitties are in a picture
If they click the right number, their message is allowed through and added to the ok list

Then I set the client to delete all mail that has a "Delivery failure"/"mail daemon" or whatever error in the subject

This ensures I only get the emails from actual people. Then if it's junk I just block their domain, or ok a domain if I want to receive mail from everyone at an organization.

Out of about 4500 emails a week, I may get 2 that show up in my inbox that are spam.


very interesting... I htink id like to hear more about this system...
what software specifically?
what email client?
cost?


yeah more details please?
 
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Desktop wise it's Mailfrontier (Think it was called Matador at one point).

It has the regular email filtering for junk, but I think it does a pretty poor job. Well ok, maybe not poor. I mean it lets through tons of stuff, even on the most aggressive setting, but almost 1000 emails a day, I doubt anything will kill all the bad ones.

The subset of the client is the Challenge. That's where you tell it what settings to use to do the picture guessing part.

I bought a site license for work a couple of years ago, was like $12 each for a year and it worked great. It has since gotten less good at filtering, but I keep it for the Challenge part. They make servers as well so it can be done at the email server level, but we only have a few dozen employees and our mail is hosted by our domain host so was just easier to have a desktop level client.

Edit: It looks like Sonicwall has purchased MailFrontier. Here's a link though:

http://www.sonicwall.com/us/Support.html
 

mather

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Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones
I've found it easiest to use this little picture program.

Spammer sends me an email
My client sends them an email back asking them to identify how many kitties are in a picture
If they click the right number, their message is allowed through and added to the ok list

Then I set the client to delete all mail that has a "Delivery failure"/"mail daemon" or whatever error in the subject

This ensures I only get the emails from actual people. Then if it's junk I just block their domain, or ok a domain if I want to receive mail from everyone at an organization.

Out of about 4500 emails a week, I may get 2 that show up in my inbox that are spam.

I've seen something like that, how would it work if I still need to receive emails from other places that are not physically sent by a "real person"? Such as emails from local retailers or online shops that I visit? Is there an option for me to add those emails to the "acceptable" pile?

 
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Originally posted by: mather
Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones
I've found it easiest to use this little picture program.

Spammer sends me an email
My client sends them an email back asking them to identify how many kitties are in a picture
If they click the right number, their message is allowed through and added to the ok list

Then I set the client to delete all mail that has a "Delivery failure"/"mail daemon" or whatever error in the subject

This ensures I only get the emails from actual people. Then if it's junk I just block their domain, or ok a domain if I want to receive mail from everyone at an organization.

Out of about 4500 emails a week, I may get 2 that show up in my inbox that are spam.

I've seen something like that, how would it work if I still need to receive emails from other places that are not physically sent by a "real person"? Such as emails from local retailers or online shops that I visit? Is there an option for me to add those emails to the "acceptable" pile?

Yup you just click on the "Add company" button and put in the hp.com or momandpop.com or whatever you need it to allow
 

Minerva

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Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones
I've found it easiest to use this little picture program.

Spammer sends me an email
My client sends them an email back asking them to identify how many kitties are in a picture
If they click the right number, their message is allowed through and added to the ok list

Then I set the client to delete all mail that has a "Delivery failure"/"mail daemon" or whatever error in the subject

This ensures I only get the emails from actual people. Then if it's junk I just block their domain, or ok a domain if I want to receive mail from everyone at an organization.

Out of about 4500 emails a week, I may get 2 that show up in my inbox that are spam.

Challenge response works extremely well. Problem is it requires specific procedure from the user to be effective. Some people (AOL users?) just expect the sh!t to work. They can pay Postini then. :p

 
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Originally posted by: Minerva
Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones
I've found it easiest to use this little picture program.

Spammer sends me an email
My client sends them an email back asking them to identify how many kitties are in a picture
If they click the right number, their message is allowed through and added to the ok list

Then I set the client to delete all mail that has a "Delivery failure"/"mail daemon" or whatever error in the subject

This ensures I only get the emails from actual people. Then if it's junk I just block their domain, or ok a domain if I want to receive mail from everyone at an organization.

Out of about 4500 emails a week, I may get 2 that show up in my inbox that are spam.

Challenge response works extremely well. Problem is it requires specific procedure from the user to be effective. Some people (AOL users?) just expect the sh!t to work. They can pay Postini then. :p

Well if it doesn't let AOL users send me email, mission accomplished ;)
 

Raduque

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I haven't seen any of this.

I've gotten maybe 4 spam emails in recent memory in my inbox. Also, pictures aren't displayed unless you specifically allow pics from that domain/email. Gmail, ftw.

Originally posted by: Minerva
Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones
I've found it easiest to use this little picture program.

Spammer sends me an email
My client sends them an email back asking them to identify how many kitties are in a picture
If they click the right number, their message is allowed through and added to the ok list

Then I set the client to delete all mail that has a "Delivery failure"/"mail daemon" or whatever error in the subject

This ensures I only get the emails from actual people. Then if it's junk I just block their domain, or ok a domain if I want to receive mail from everyone at an organization.

Out of about 4500 emails a week, I may get 2 that show up in my inbox that are spam.

Challenge response works extremely well. Problem is it requires specific procedure from the user to be effective. Some people (AOL users?) just expect the sh!t to work. They can pay Postini then. :p

Problem is most (i'd say around 97%) of all spam comes from zombie mailers. The address your client is sending the challenge email back to, doesn't exist, so you're wasting a lot of bandwidth on this.