Howard Dean for DNC Chair!

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I'm 100% behind that, i love Dean, he's a true blue liberal and that's the sort of lack of moderation and crazy point of view that will assure that libbies fail to take any major federal office for a long time to come.
 

b0mbrman

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The DNC could do much worse. His "yeahhh!" proves he's obviously passionate about what he believes.
 

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Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
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I'm 100% behind that, i love Dean, he's a true blue liberal and that's the sort of lack of moderation and crazy point of view that will assure that libbies fail to take any major federal office for a long time to come.

How little you know of Howard Dean and his record.
 

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Howard Dean is a liberal I respect. He at least has the nerve to actually say what he feels. That's more than can be said of most people...
 
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Originally posted by: ariafrost
Howard Dean is a liberal I respect. He at least has the nerve to actually say what he feels. That's more than can be said of most people...

I agree, I'm tired of liberals pretending to be hawkish when they are against war. I respect Dean more than any other liberal in American politics.
 

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if dean is so great, why don't the demo's run him for president in 2008? i and probably most republicans
would donate to his campaign.
 

b0mbrman

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Originally posted by: slyedog
if dean is so great, why don't the demo's run him for president in 2008? i and probably most republicans
would donate to his campaign.
It's quite possible that he's great for the democrat party and not great for the country
 
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well.. if the dems want to win they'd make someone who believed in the moderate rhetoric of bill Clinton the chair person.
 

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Dean as party chair? Sure why not... that would hasten the departure of more politicians and constituents. It might continue to put them on the path of the Whigs, but at least it will be a "pure" party of good Libs. Go Dems.
 

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I see the thread is full of the brainwashed robo thinkers.

The best prison is an invisible cage.
 
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Originally posted by: glugglug
Dean is a moderate. You have no idea what liberal is.

He's sorta right.

Dean was very much in the middle across the board pre-election, and moved lunatic-fringe left to try to gain support for the presidential election. It was a political miscalculation.

As I recall, Dean is a strong advocate for states' rights and the right to bear arms.

If the dems really want to win, they will resist the urge to go more liberal. If the public perception is that the Republicans are leaving the middle for the right, it is time to run a Clinton-Moderate to fill the political vacuum.

This moderate candidate could easily reach out to the left. The left's support should be easier to get than the moderate voters. Many lefties are Yellow Dog Democrats who will vote blindly Democratic (except the Naderistas, who should be sterilized).

It makes no sense to move that far left of center.
 

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Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I see the thread is full of the brainwashed robo thinkers.

The best prison is an invisible cage.

... the irony burns.

he says after instantly giving the matter all the thought he was capable of. There's many a slip twixt the quip and the trip.
 

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Personally, Terry Mcauliffe, when compared to his GOP Counterpart is a pu$$y. During every major event through out the election I saw Ed on TV touting his party, nay do I hear a word from Terry, all except for the sound of crickets chirping and butterflies fluttering. Someone with some verve would be a welcome change. Ed can really push his side and spin like the spin control brakes were forgotten during manufacturing.
 

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Howard Dean brought energy into the democratic party which had been lacking for so long. He has started a new group of dedicated followers, and even though he is a commie ( in many ways ), he is very passionate and I think will do very well with whatever he does
 

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Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
The DNC could do much worse. His "yeahhh!" proves he's obviously passionate about what he believes.

His "yea" was BS created by corporate media to derail him. Its inaudiable in the crowd which was screaming and edited to make him sound alone and manic.

http://abclocal.go.com/wjrt/ne..._group_deanscream.html
Because Americans can be made to think Dean is insane just by showing a few feet of film with a particular interpretation we get a moron like Bush for President. I think you can write off America as deserving of what they get. A people so easily mentally controlled deserve their trip off the cliff.

 

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Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate
Originally posted by: glugglug
Dean is a moderate. You have no idea what liberal is.

He's sorta right.

Dean was very much in the middle across the board pre-election, and moved lunatic-fringe left to try to gain support for the presidential election. It was a political miscalculation.

As I recall, Dean is a strong advocate for states' rights and the right to bear arms.

If the dems really want to win, they will resist the urge to go more liberal. If the public perception is that the Republicans are leaving the middle for the right, it is time to run a Clinton-Moderate to fill the political vacuum.

This moderate candidate could easily reach out to the left. The left's support should be easier to get than the moderate voters. Many lefties are Yellow Dog Democrats who will vote blindly Democratic (except the Naderistas, who should be sterilized).

It makes no sense to move that far left of center.

During the democrat nominee period. If I remember correctly, only Dean, Carol Mosley, and Lieberman actually stuck to their positions the entire time. Everyone else started moving left because it suddenly became hip to be against the war and they wanted to hop on the bandwagon. Case in point, John Kerry.

But anyway, Dean was moderate and I remember having a bunch of no-BS letters from the Dean Commitee outlining his stance on everything. Took us 6 months to get something like that out of Kerry and even then, the american people didn't believe him.
 
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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I see the thread is full of the brainwashed robo thinkers.

The best prison is an invisible cage.

... the irony burns.

he says after instantly giving the matter all the thought he was capable of. There's many a slip twixt the quip and the trip.
your right, i didn't know weather to laugh at you or cry for you... so i took a long time to think about what would be appropriate... in the end, I decided that it was best just to explain why i felt like doing both.

Because Americans can be made to think Dean is insane just by showing a few feet of film with a particular interpretation we get a moron like Bush for President.
LOL, again, the idea that bush would have lost to dean is just silly.
 

miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
Because Americans can be made to think Dean is insane just by showing a few feet of film with a particular interpretation we get a moron like Bush for President.
LOL, again, the idea that bush would have lost to dean is just silly.[/quote]
the idea that anyone could lose to bush is equally silly, but that unfortunately happened.
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I see the thread is full of the brainwashed robo thinkers.

The best prison is an invisible cage.

... the irony burns.

he says after instantly giving the matter all the thought he was capable of. There's many a slip twixt the quip and the trip.
your right, i didn't know weather to laugh at you or cry for you... so i took a long time to think about what would be appropriate... in the end, I decided that it was best just to explain why i felt like doing both.

Because Americans can be made to think Dean is insane just by showing a few feet of film with a particular interpretation we get a moron like Bush for President.
LOL, again, the idea that bush would have lost to dean is just silly.

Oh man, LMK, now you went and hurt my feelings. I'm not silly. YOU are silly. That will teach you.

 

Rainsford

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Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
LOL, again, the idea that bush would have lost to dean is just silly.

Maybe, maybe not. Dean was more moderate than Kerry and had more regular guy appeal. The lack of those two things hurt Kerry. Beyond that, Dean could have stood toe to toe with Bush and flung the mud right back. Kerry tried to come off as intelligent about his opinions, but instead he sometimes sounded like he was changing his mind. Dean stuck by his position in the primaries, and I think people would have viewed him as a strong leader like they viewed Bush.

But really, his moderate positions would have put him over the top, IMHO. All the Dems needed was 7% more of the moderates to win. And Bush is more extreme than Dean, hell, moderate voters seemed to think he was more extreme than Kerry. Dean could have attracted that 7%, I think.