How would you get rid of corporate welfare? Or is it necessary?

Anarchist420

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I've run into too many people who say they want to get rid of the plutocracy and corporate welfare, but don't want to do much of anything that would get rid of it.

That leads me to believe that most people favor corporate welfare.

If you don't like corporate welfare, then what would you do to get rid of it?

What would I do?

I would abolish IP/copyrights and Amend the Constitution to disallow the Federal Government from issuing them.
I would end the MIC by amending the Constitution to disallow the military from conducting overseas operations.
I would slash the military budget by ~95%.
I would end the Fed, end fiat currency, and mandate 100% reserves.
I would end the FDA.
I would repeal the 17th Amendment and replace it with the 10th Amendment Center's suggestion, and add a section mandating that Presidential electors be chosen by state legislatures.
I would end all federal gun control.
I would Amend the Constitution to disallow the Federal Government from regulating interstate commerce.
I would repeal the HMO Act and Medicare Part D
I'd withdraw from the WTO, NAFTA, CAFTA, and the U.N.
With repeal of the 16th Amendment, I'd add a section stating that tariffs may be for revenue only.
I would end the Federal War on Drugs.
I would fire all of the Supreme Court Justices except Clarence Thomas.
I would end the FCC and Departments of Energy, EPA, Homeland Security, Education, Justice, etc.
 
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Throckmorton

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If you did all those things the entire economy would collapse and we'd become a third world hellscape... in other words, a Libertopia.
 

Scotteq

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Well - our dear Anarchist at least has a (somewhat bizarre...) sense of humor. :p
 

zephyrprime

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Anarchist, you should consider posting in Off Topic sometimes too. People there have lots of free time and can enjoy a good laugh.
 

Tom

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The greatest economic power in history, and all our present day rivals are more or less copies of us.

We only have one real problem, people who don't want to pay for the government they want.
 

LegendKiller

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LOL...anarchist obviously hates his education and life.

Dude, do us a favor, get off the internet (which was/is funded by taxpayers) and go to your Libertopia of pig farming and nail making. Just don't bitch when China invades and takes your pigs and farm because they had a highly trained standing army and all you had was a 30-06 and a .45.
 

airdata

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How about not giving Israel anymore money or weapons? It's my understanding that they're doing quite well without the need for billions of dollars annually from our country.
 

fskimospy

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Anarchist's solution to get rid of corporate welfare? Destroy our economy so we have no welfare to give.

That being said, he has to be trolling at this point.
 

airdata

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How about we give no foreign country money / weapons (for free)?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_policy_of_the_United_States#Military
Military Aid (in billions)
1. Iraq 6.5
2. Afghanistan 5.6
3. Israel 2.75
4. Egypt 1.75
5. Pakistan 1.6


We have to give countries money and weapons so that they be targets of war in the future and power our economy.... I'm just saying that Israel is doing fine and don't really need it.

Afghanistand and Iraq are obviously up there since we've bombed the hell out of them and need to rebuild their countries.
 

Fern

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I came in to see what 'corporate welfare'.

Almost nothing on your list strikes me as corporate welfare.

fern
 

CallMeJoe

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I came in to see what 'corporate welfare'.
Almost nothing on your list strikes me as corporate welfare.
fern
You expect logic and consistency from our benighted Anarchist?

Look elsewhere, Fern This OP makes Birthers and Truthers appear the very model of reason.
 

Zorkorist

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It's a trap!

But his point is simple.

Stop Government excesses, and you stop other excesses.

-John
 
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Zorkorist

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The greatest economic power in history, and all our present day rivals are more or less copies of us.

We only have one real problem, people who don't want to pay for the government they want.
We are unfunded and on the precipice of insolvency.

We are no longer the American Dream, but closer to the American Nightmare.

We are in the midst of almost 18 months of 9%+ unemployment. Government spending is out of control. The National Debt is out of control. etc.

The only reason any nation would follow our lead, is because it's easy, to defer responsibility.

-John
 
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Zebo

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Addressing income stream addresses who they work for.

I'd favor "we the people" so:

No corporate funding of campaigns. $200 max from individuals.
No Pacs
No dinners, junkets etc
Public funding of campaigns
No congressperson can work as a lobbyist
 

Zorkorist

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Elections, are what is supposed to stop bad politicians from being elected.

It's obvious that doesn't work.

The "input stream" won't be stopped by limiting who is elected, the stream will be stopped when Government spending ends.

(Anarchist's point)

-John
 
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Fayd

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I've run into too many people who say they want to get rid of the plutocracy and corporate welfare, but don't want to do much of anything that would get rid of it.

That leads me to believe that most people favor corporate welfare.

If you don't like corporate welfare, then what would you do to get rid of it?

What would I do?

I would abolish IP/copyrights and Amend the Constitution to disallow the Federal Government from issuing them.
I would end the MIC by amending the Constitution to disallow the military from conducting overseas operations.
I would slash the military budget by ~95%.
I would end the Fed, end fiat currency, and mandate 100% reserves.
I would end the FDA.
I would repeal the 17th Amendment and replace it with the 10th Amendment Center's suggestion, and add a section mandating that Presidential electors be chosen by state legislatures.
I would end all federal gun control.
I would Amend the Constitution to disallow the Federal Government from regulating interstate commerce.
I would repeal the HMO Act and Medicare Part D
I'd withdraw from the WTO, NAFTA, CAFTA, and the U.N.
With repeal of the 16th Amendment, I'd add a section stating that tariffs may be for revenue only.
I would end the Federal War on Drugs.
I would fire all of the Supreme Court Justices except Clarence Thomas.
I would end the FCC and Departments of Energy, EPA, Homeland Security, Education, Justice, etc.

looks like a troll, smells like a troll, is a troll.
 

Zebo

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I don't think he's a troll. Some people just arnt good in written communication. Well, abysmal is this case.
 

Anarchist420

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Addressing income stream addresses who they work for.

I'd favor "we the people" so:

No corporate funding of campaigns. $200 max from individuals.
No Pacs
No dinners, junkets etc
Public funding of campaigns
No congressperson can work as a lobbyist
I don't think that will cut out corporate welfare. The corporations will find other ways to get their welfare from the state. Look at how Prop 19 failed because of lobbying and that was with direct democracy.

Democracy naturally becomes a plutocracy. The only way to limit the democracy/plutocracy is to take its powers away.
 

gingermeggs

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If you did all those things the entire economy would collapse and we'd become a third world hellscape... in other words, a Libertopia.

So what you're really saying is he would change nothing from it's present course anyhow~
Your screwed anyway you look at it even if you become bigtime nazi's, what it is- a pyramid scheme going into it's curtain call.
Yo be re-inhabited by it's aboriginal descendants(latino's) and have a kinda north-mexico state.
I reckon some states will try to join Canada!
But be refused!
A sino-russian coalition will be then big boy in the world.
This is the troubles of any culture built of enslavement- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuJSa265iKM&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P44IBiyIWfQ
 
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