How would i find out if a van runs off bio-diesel?

Maximilian

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Phone the manufacturer? Think they would tell me, cause google isnt helping much.

For the record ive gotta find out if these will run on bio-diesel:

Make Model Year of registration

Ford New Holland Tractor 6640 1993
Manitou Manireach 1994
Ford Transit 190 LWB 1998
LDV 400 convoy D LWB 1998
Volkswagon Caddy 1998
Ford Transit 190 LWB 1995
Ford Transit TD LWB 1998
Fiat Fiorino 1.7 TD 1997
Ford Focus CL TD DI 1999
 

Turin39789

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Originally posted by: Soviet
Phone the manufacturer? Think they would tell me, cause google isnt helping much.

For the record ive gotta find out if these will run on bio-diesel:

Make Model Year of registration

Ford New Holland Tractor 6640 1993
Manitou Manireach 1994
Ford Transit 190 LWB 1998
LDV 400 convoy D LWB 1998
Volkswagon Caddy 1998
Ford Transit 190 LWB 1995
Ford Transit TD LWB 1998
Fiat Fiorino 1.7 TD 1997
Ford Focus CL TD DI 1999



If they have diesel engines - yea they will
 
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Any diesel vehicle should be able to run vegetable oil, as long as it doesn't have rubber seals, and you fit it with the necessary tank heater.

Can't tell you the specifics on those, since they're all Blimin' Bloomin' Bleemy British Bonneys.

- M4H
 

K1052

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Biodiesel will work in any diesel engine. However it has a tendancy to dislodge junk from the fuel system which can cause problems.

SVO (straight vegetable oil) is a little different.
 

Turin39789

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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Any diesel vehicle should be able to run vegetable oil, as long as it doesn't have rubber seals, and you fit it with the necessary tank heater.

Can't tell you the specifics on those, since they're all Blimin' Bloomin' Bleemy British Bonneys.

- M4H

My understanding is that any diesel can run biodiesel with no conversion/work, as it is a vegetable oil / ethanol blend. And that any diesel can run on straight vegetable oil as long as you set up teh conversion and have a tank heater or set it up to start on diesel and then switch to veggie once the engine warms up.
 
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Originally posted by: Turin39789
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Any diesel vehicle should be able to run vegetable oil, as long as it doesn't have rubber seals, and you fit it with the necessary tank heater.

Can't tell you the specifics on those, since they're all Blimin' Bloomin' Bleemy British Bonneys.

- M4H

My understanding is that any diesel can run biodiesel with no conversion/work, as it is a vegetable oil / ethanol blend. And that any diesel can run on straight vegetable oil as long as you set up teh conversion and have a tank heater or set it up to start on diesel and then switch to veggie once the engine warms up.

I took "biodiesel" to mean vegetable oil, since I assumed that biodiesel working in everything would lead to him not asking the question in the first place.

And again, not any diesel will work for SVO. Vegetable oil will eat away rubber seals quickly.

- M4H
 

Maximilian

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Its bio-diesel made from used vegetable oil.

I read on one of the bio-diesel forums that some diesel vehicles can only "take B20" which is 20% bio-diesel and 80% stuff from the station.

Whats that about? It wasent explained on the forum :(
 

drnickriviera

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Some people use water to remove the soap and methanol. It's hard to get every drop of water out of it when you wash it. When you get down to freezing and below, the BD will gel. Some cut the BD down with kerosene to reduce the gel point.
 

PaNsyBoy8

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Originally posted by: Soviet
Its bio-diesel made from used vegetable oil.

I read on one of the bio-diesel forums that some diesel vehicles can only "take B20" which is 20% bio-diesel and 80% stuff from the station.

Whats that about? It wasent explained on the forum :(

biodiesel != vegetable oil

well, that's my understanding anyways.

bio-diesel is actually processed soy whereas vegetable oil is just that, vegetable oil. bio-diesel sometimes is mixed in with regualr diesel to give you that percentage, i don't remember the reason why this is done, i believe its cost, but once again, i'm not sure. Nothing is needed for the a biodiesel conversion, no heaters, nothing, biodiesel doesn't gel up in cold like veggie oil.

i think setting up your car to run on veggie oil take a little more work, such as heaters and a method to switch between, diesel or biodiesel and veggie oil, so that your lines aren't clogged with cold gelatinous veggie oil.

its been a very long time since i've looked into bio diesel, so much of this can be incorrect.

 

Maximilian

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Bio-Diesel can be a number of things. But the stuff im talking about is used vegetable oil produced from a processor. NaOH has somthing to do with it, and so does methanol. The bio-diesel end product when it comes from the processor is different from the used vegetable oil thats put in.
 

Strk

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Originally posted by: Soviet
Its bio-diesel made from used vegetable oil.

I read on one of the bio-diesel forums that some diesel vehicles can only "take B20" which is 20% bio-diesel and 80% stuff from the station.

Whats that about? It wasent explained on the forum :(

Any amount will work, but only a certain amount won't void the warranty.

Oh, and an obligatory "just sniff the tailpipe."

I'm amazed no one said it ;)
 

drnickriviera

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BD can be made from a bunch of things, even algae and animal lard.

Soviet, you should start making some 1L test batches. You'll really learn a lot about titration and quality test.