How would a KERRY/CLELAND ticket fare?

[Pennstate]

I think this ticket might even be better than a Kerry/Edwards ticket. It will send a strong message that Bush is NOT a soldier's president. Their message would be "We both know from personal experience that WAR is HELL. That's why we should never go to war unless we have ROCK SOLID evidence of imminent threat."

 

[Mill]

The war issue is being war overdramatized by some. I'd say the ticket wouldn't fair well at all.

 

[heartsurgeon]

didn't cleland just LOSE an election (in the last election cycle)?

yeah, that would make a great ticket!

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
didn't cleland just LOSE an election (in the last election cycle)?

yeah, that would make a great ticket!

You obviously delight in insulting Viet Nam Vets who lost their limbs.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
didn't cleland just LOSE an election (in the last election cycle)?

yeah, that would make a great ticket!

You obviously delight in insulting Viet Nam Vets who lost their limbs.

How does him pointing out that he LOST the election = "delight in insulting Viet Nam Vets who lost their limbs"?

CkG

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
didn't cleland just LOSE an election (in the last election cycle)?

yeah, that would make a great ticket!

You obviously delight in insulting Viet Nam Vets who lost their limbs.

How does him pointing out that he LOST the election = "delight in insulting Viet Nam Vets who lost their limbs"?

CkG

How about his posting of two other threads quoting Ann Coulture trivilizing Clelend's wounds?

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
didn't cleland just LOSE an election (in the last election cycle)?

yeah, that would make a great ticket!

You obviously delight in insulting Viet Nam Vets who lost their limbs.

How does him pointing out that he LOST the election = "delight in insulting Viet Nam Vets who lost their limbs"?

CkG

How about his posting of two other threads quoting Ann Coulture trivilizing Clelend's wounds?

Then why not post your comments there instead of quoting him here. Cleland DID lose, and stating that fact isn't insulting no matter what you think he posted elsewhere.

CkG

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
didn't cleland just LOSE an election (in the last election cycle)?

yeah, that would make a great ticket!

You obviously delight in insulting Viet Nam Vets who lost their limbs.

How does him pointing out that he LOST the election = "delight in insulting Viet Nam Vets who lost their limbs"?

CkG

How about his posting of two other threads quoting Ann Coulture trivilizing Clelend's wounds?

Then why not post your comments there instead of quoting him here. Cleland DID lose, and stating that fact isn't insulting no matter what you think he posted elsewhere.

CkG

Since when did you become the thread monitor and heartsurgeons Champion?

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
didn't cleland just LOSE an election (in the last election cycle)?

yeah, that would make a great ticket!

You obviously delight in insulting Viet Nam Vets who lost their limbs.

How does him pointing out that he LOST the election = "delight in insulting Viet Nam Vets who lost their limbs"?

CkG

How about his posting of two other threads quoting Ann Coulture trivilizing Clelend's wounds?

Then why not post your comments there instead of quoting him here. Cleland DID lose, and stating that fact isn't insulting no matter what you think he posted elsewhere.

CkG

Did he lose because of lack of merit or because of overabundance of Grand OLD SMEAR

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
didn't cleland just LOSE an election (in the last election cycle)?

yeah, that would make a great ticket!

You obviously delight in insulting Viet Nam Vets who lost their limbs.

How does him pointing out that he LOST the election = "delight in insulting Viet Nam Vets who lost their limbs"?

CkG

How about his posting of two other threads quoting Ann Coulture trivilizing Clelend's wounds?

Then why not post your comments there instead of quoting him here. Cleland DID lose, and stating that fact isn't insulting no matter what you think he posted elsewhere.

CkG

Since when did you become the thread monitor and heartsurgeons Champion?

Never - I'm not a MOD and I'm not - I just think your statement didn't fit so I challenged you on it.

CkG

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
didn't cleland just LOSE an election (in the last election cycle)?

yeah, that would make a great ticket!

You obviously delight in insulting Viet Nam Vets who lost their limbs.

How does him pointing out that he LOST the election = "delight in insulting Viet Nam Vets who lost their limbs"?

CkG

How about his posting of two other threads quoting Ann Coulture trivilizing Clelend's wounds?

Then why not post your comments there instead of quoting him here. Cleland DID lose, and stating that fact isn't insulting no matter what you think he posted elsewhere.

CkG

Did he lose because of lack of merit or because of overabundance of Grand OLD SMEAR

He lost because he didn't get enough votes.

CkG

 

[Pennstate]

"He lost because he didn't get enough votes."

so kinda like George Bush?

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Pennstate
"He lost because he didn't get enough votes."

so kinda like George Bush?

Nope. I think people know how the President is elected by now.

CkG

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Pennstate
"He lost because he didn't get enough votes."

so kinda like George Bush?

Nope. I think people know how the President is elected by now.

CkG

Yes, by a crooked and paid for broken "Delegate" system along with corrupted Judges.

You and the Founding Fathers must be proud

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Pennstate
"He lost because he didn't get enough votes."

so kinda like George Bush?

Nope. I think people know how the President is elected by now.

CkG

Yes, by a crooked and paid for broken "Delegate" system along with corrupted Judges.

You and the Founding Fathers must be proud

Dave don't you think that if there wasn't an Electoral College that many more Republicans would have bothered to vote in CA and the Northeast giving the Dub the Popular vote?

 

[smashp]

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
didn't cleland just LOSE an election (in the last election cycle)?

yeah, that would make a great ticket!

You obviously delight in insulting Viet Nam Vets who lost their limbs.

How does him pointing out that he LOST the election = "delight in insulting Viet Nam Vets who lost their limbs"?

CkG

How about his posting of two other threads quoting Ann Coulture trivilizing Clelend's wounds?

Then why not post your comments there instead of quoting him here. Cleland DID lose, and stating that fact isn't insulting no matter what you think he posted elsewhere.

CkG

Did he lose because of lack of merit or because of overabundance of Grand OLD SMEAR

Cleland lost becasue the Republican party ran ads painting him as "Aiding Terrorists" and "Weak on national Security" because Cleland Wouldnt vote for the Patriot act.


Republicans Said Vietnam Hero Senator Cleland Lacked "The Courage to Lead." In his 2002 effort to defeat incumbent Senator Max Cleland (D-GA), then-Congressman Saxby Chambliss (R-GA) ran television advertisements featuring Osama Bin Laden's photograph and saying, "Since July, Max Cleland has voted against the president's vital homeland security efforts 11 times. Max Cleland says he has the courage to lead, but the record proves that's just misleading." Chambliss' attacks did not mention that Senator Cleland lost both legs and an arm serving his country in Vietnam. Defending his decision to air the ad, Saxby Chambliss in an interview said that Cleland, "hadn't been a leader on anything." [Atlanta Journal Constitution, 10/26/02; Washington Post, 10/25/02; Boston Globe, 11/1/02]

Chambliss Did Not Serve in Vietnam Because of Deferment. Saxby Chambliss never served in the military. Chambliss received a student deferment and, due to a bad knee, a medical deferment from fighting in Vietnam. [Boston Globe, 11/1/02]

Senate Majority Leader Frist Gave Green Light for Chambliss Bin Laden Attack on Cleland. A Roll Call column by Mort Kondracke linked approval of Chambliss's attack ads to Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist. Kondracke reported, "In late September last year, Sen. Bill Frist (Tenn.), then chairman of the National Republican Senatorial Committee, told me that he personally approved all his candidates' ads. And, he said that while the Iraq war itself was not a fit subject for anti-Democratic ads, 'gridlock on homeland security drives it home what [Democratic Senators] are not getting done and directs attention to issues we are stronger on -- defense, patriotism, support for the military.'" [Kondracke, Roll Call, 9/16/03]

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Pennstate
"He lost because he didn't get enough votes."

so kinda like George Bush?

Nope. I think people know how the President is elected by now.

CkG

Yes, by a crooked and paid for broken "Delegate" system along with corrupted Judges.

You and the Founding Fathers must be proud

Dave don't you think that if there wasn't an Electoral College that many more Republicans would have bothered to vote in CA and the Northeast giving the Dub the Popular vote?

Good question.

I see dave has stirred himself into a tizzy Umm...the election was almost 4 years ago dave...it's time to move on

CkG

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Pennstate
"He lost because he didn't get enough votes."

so kinda like George Bush?

Nope. I think people know how the President is elected by now.

CkG

Yes, by a crooked and paid for broken "Delegate" system along with corrupted Judges.

You and the Founding Fathers must be proud

Dave don't you think that if there wasn't an Electoral College that many more Republicans would have bothered to vote in CA and the Northeast giving the Dub the Popular vote?

Good question.

I see dave has stirred himself into a tizzy Umm...the election was almost 4 years ago dave...it's time to move on

CkG

Yes absolutely, it is certainly time to move on, time to move your Fearless Liar onto the Unemployment lines along with everyone else.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Pennstate
"He lost because he didn't get enough votes."

so kinda like George Bush?

Nope. I think people know how the President is elected by now.

CkG

Yes, by a crooked and paid for broken "Delegate" system along with corrupted Judges.

You and the Founding Fathers must be proud

Dave don't you think that if there wasn't an Electoral College that many more Republicans would have bothered to vote in CA and the Northeast giving the Dub the Popular vote?

Good question.

I see dave has stirred himself into a tizzy Umm...the election was almost 4 years ago dave...it's time to move on

CkG

Yes absolutely, it is certainly time to move on, time to move your Fearless Liar onto the Unemployment lines along with everyone else.

Everyone else? Who and where might they be?

CkG

 

[smashp]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Pennstate
"He lost because he didn't get enough votes."

so kinda like George Bush?

Nope. I think people know how the President is elected by now.

CkG

Yes, by a crooked and paid for broken "Delegate" system along with corrupted Judges.

You and the Founding Fathers must be proud

Dave don't you think that if there wasn't an Electoral College that many more Republicans would have bothered to vote in CA and the Northeast giving the Dub the Popular vote?

Good question.

I see dave has stirred himself into a tizzy Umm...the election was almost 4 years ago dave...it's time to move on

CkG

Yes absolutely, it is certainly time to move on, time to move your Fearless Liar onto the Unemployment lines along with everyone else.

Everyone else? Who and where might they be?

CkG

everyone else that has towed Dubya's lies and defended them. Dont Worry Cad, Only people employed in the Admin will be affected

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Pennstate
"He lost because he didn't get enough votes."

so kinda like George Bush?

Nope. I think people know how the President is elected by now.

CkG

Yes, by a crooked and paid for broken "Delegate" system along with corrupted Judges.

You and the Founding Fathers must be proud

Dave don't you think that if there wasn't an Electoral College that many more Republicans would have bothered to vote in CA and the Northeast giving the Dub the Popular vote?

Good question.

I see dave has stirred himself into a tizzy Umm...the election was almost 4 years ago dave...it's time to move on

CkG

Yes absolutely, it is certainly time to move on, time to move your Fearless Liar onto the Unemployment lines along with everyone else.

Everyone else? Who and where might they be?

CkG

The Millions that you, dirtboy and the rest of you ATPN Co along with Rush, Hannity, Coulter and the president all continue to spit in the face of millions of Americans that lost their jobs.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Pennstate
"He lost because he didn't get enough votes."

so kinda like George Bush?

Nope. I think people know how the President is elected by now.

CkG

Yes, by a crooked and paid for broken "Delegate" system along with corrupted Judges.

You and the Founding Fathers must be proud

Dave don't you think that if there wasn't an Electoral College that many more Republicans would have bothered to vote in CA and the Northeast giving the Dub the Popular vote?

Good question.

I see dave has stirred himself into a tizzy Umm...the election was almost 4 years ago dave...it's time to move on

CkG

Yes absolutely, it is certainly time to move on, time to move your Fearless Liar onto the Unemployment lines along with everyone else.

Everyone else? Who and where might they be?

CkG

The Millions that you, dirtboy and the rest of you ATPN Co along with Rush, Hannity, Coulter and the president all continue to spit in the face of millions of Americans that lost their jobs.

Eh? Did you forget to take your meds this morning? No one has spit in the face of the unemployed. Unemployment is NOT at alarming levels.

CkG

 

[smashp]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Pennstate
"He lost because he didn't get enough votes."

so kinda like George Bush?

Nope. I think people know how the President is elected by now.

CkG

Yes, by a crooked and paid for broken "Delegate" system along with corrupted Judges.

You and the Founding Fathers must be proud

Dave don't you think that if there wasn't an Electoral College that many more Republicans would have bothered to vote in CA and the Northeast giving the Dub the Popular vote?

Good question.

I see dave has stirred himself into a tizzy Umm...the election was almost 4 years ago dave...it's time to move on

CkG

Yes absolutely, it is certainly time to move on, time to move your Fearless Liar onto the Unemployment lines along with everyone else.

Everyone else? Who and where might they be?

CkG

The Millions that you, dirtboy and the rest of you ATPN Co along with Rush, Hannity, Coulter and the president all continue to spit in the face of millions of Americans that lost their jobs.

Eh? Did you forget to take your meds this morning? No one has spit in the face of the unemployed. Unemployment is NOT at alarming levels.

CkG

Unemployment Isnt At Alarming levels, Unless you are trying to Get a New Job or are currently Unemployed. Great Attitude "It doesnt affect me"

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Pennstate
"He lost because he didn't get enough votes."

so kinda like George Bush?

Nope. I think people know how the President is elected by now.

CkG

Yes, by a crooked and paid for broken "Delegate" system along with corrupted Judges.

You and the Founding Fathers must be proud

Dave don't you think that if there wasn't an Electoral College that many more Republicans would have bothered to vote in CA and the Northeast giving the Dub the Popular vote?

Good question.

I see dave has stirred himself into a tizzy Umm...the election was almost 4 years ago dave...it's time to move on

CkG

Yes absolutely, it is certainly time to move on, time to move your Fearless Liar onto the Unemployment lines along with everyone else.

Everyone else? Who and where might they be?

CkG

The Millions that you, dirtboy and the rest of you ATPN Co along with Rush, Hannity, Coulter and the president all continue to spit in the face of millions of Americans that lost their jobs.

Eh? Did you forget to take your meds this morning? No one has spit in the face of the unemployed. Unemployment is NOT at alarming levels.

CkG

Oh that's right, the Administration said "it's a good thing for the Country to send all it's jobs to India", I forgot how stupid of me.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Pennstate
"He lost because he didn't get enough votes."

so kinda like George Bush?

Nope. I think people know how the President is elected by now.

CkG

Yes, by a crooked and paid for broken "Delegate" system along with corrupted Judges.

You and the Founding Fathers must be proud

Dave don't you think that if there wasn't an Electoral College that many more Republicans would have bothered to vote in CA and the Northeast giving the Dub the Popular vote?

Good question.

I see dave has stirred himself into a tizzy Umm...the election was almost 4 years ago dave...it's time to move on

CkG

Yes absolutely, it is certainly time to move on, time to move your Fearless Liar onto the Unemployment lines along with everyone else.

Everyone else? Who and where might they be?

CkG

The Millions that you, dirtboy and the rest of you ATPN Co along with Rush, Hannity, Coulter and the president all continue to spit in the face of millions of Americans that lost their jobs.

Eh? Did you forget to take your meds this morning? No one has spit in the face of the unemployed. Unemployment is NOT at alarming levels.

CkG

Oh that's right, the Administration said "it's a good thing for the Country to send all it's jobs to India", I forgot how stupid of me.

Huh? dave do you have any idea how silly you sound? I understand people's need to make the economy look bad so Bush doesn't get re-elected but you seem to be more in the "kook" area over with LaRouche and Nader. I really think you need to step away from the computer for a week or more. No news, no papers, no computers - nothing. Just to reset your system.

IMO ofcourse

CkG