How will the nix-opensource community counter attack this ?

The Linuxator

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"And of course once there is a "technological protection mechanism" in place then it is against the law - both in Europe and the US - to get round it, so open source players for Linux platforms will be illegal. All in all, it is not looking good for those of us who like to buy and listen to music."
BBC's link

I feel angry beyond what words can explain :| (hence the emoticon lol)
But really it wasn't enough that they are going to arrange things with Microsoft and Apple to integrate this BS, and that's old info ofcourse.
But what I didn't know till now is that according to the last paragraph (quoted above), since they can't control open source apps and OS s they will make open-source players ILLEGAL WTF ??
 

Nothinman

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It's already there, the DMCA (and whatever Europe calls their law) makes OSS DVD players (well, ones that play CSS encrypted discs) illegal but we still have them.
 

The Linuxator

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I know that nothinman , but my question is that will the open source community do something about it, was there any challenge in court or any thing that will qualify as an attempt to stop this madness
 

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Originally posted by: The Linuxator
"And of course once there is a "technological protection mechanism" in place then it is against the law - both in Europe and the US - to get round it, so open source players for Linux platforms will be illegal. All in all, it is not looking good for those of us who like to buy and listen to music."
BBC's link

I feel angry beyond what words can explain :| (hence the emoticon lol)
But really it wasn't enough that they are going to arrange things with Microsoft and Apple to integrate this BS, and that's old info ofcourse.
But what I didn't know till now is that according to the last paragraph (quoted above), since they can't control open source apps and OS s they will make open-source players ILLEGAL WTF ??

The idea of making open source applications and OSes illegal just because "they can't control" them sounds totalitarianistic.

 

The Linuxator

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Originally posted by: sigs3gv
Originally posted by: The Linuxator
"And of course once there is a "technological protection mechanism" in place then it is against the law - both in Europe and the US - to get round it, so open source players for Linux platforms will be illegal. All in all, it is not looking good for those of us who like to buy and listen to music."
BBC's link

I feel angry beyond what words can explain :| (hence the emoticon lol)
But really it wasn't enough that they are going to arrange things with Microsoft and Apple to integrate this BS, and that's old info ofcourse.
But what I didn't know till now is that according to the last paragraph (quoted above), since they can't control open source apps and OS s they will make open-source players ILLEGAL WTF ??

The idea of making open source applications and OSes illegal just because "they can't control" them sounds totalitarianistic.


That's exactly what I mean, in their mind they are thinking that they have finally found a way to ANALY RAPE the OS community, sigh what this had turned to, I surely miss the days when you could buy something and just drag and drop.
 

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I don't think they will be able to outlaw Linux. I'm sure A LOT of companies won't like that; especially Google.
 

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The EFF and, though this is less directly their fight, the FSF, are pretty much all we have. Free software and open source people are quite good, in general, at making code available to do legal things, and to a lesser extent illegal and legal-in-countries-that-aren't-the-US things. In the long run, though, any purely technological fight will be a losing one as long as we continue to have the best laws that corporate money can buy. Right now, cracking protected systems isn't all that hard, comparitively speaking and it is usually legal somewhere. As the lockdown mechanisms get more sophisticated, more connected, and more tightly integrated, cracking will get a lot harder. Downloading libdvdcss2 is easy, importing an HDCP spoofing dongle for your noncompliant DVI panel isn't too hard; but isn't cheap, either. Modding your motherboard to defeat some sort of TCPM(or a future version thereof, I don't know exactly how long this one is going to take) will be quite tricky indeed. Modding your CPU, Northbridge, Southbridge, GPU, and NIC will be pretty much impossible for anyone without a university class lab and some serious skills. Things get even worse when all this stuff becomes illegal.

There have been limited attempts at resistance(see the European Software Patents scuffle, for example); but things look pretty grim in the longterm. The MPAA/RIAA and their ilk can afford to send more or less the same old filth into congress every year, each time with a new fuzzy name(The "Saving America's Televisions from Godless Communism" Act, to be followed by the "You Love American Idol More Than You Love Those Smelly Geeks" act, and so on and so forth). Each time there will be a bit of furor in certain sections of the blog scene, and the good folks at the EFF will protest; but that will only stop them that time, at best. The main problem is that, of the two groups that see this matter as really important, the bad guys are by far more powerful.

Obviously the RIAA/MPAA are all for this, Intel has been making good money on DRM(they are the chaps behind HDCP) and, while they make token efforts in the direction of "consumer's rights" they mean "the consumer's right to do computationally expensive transcoding on Intel silicon, into a format protected by MS in software and Intel DRM in hardware and to stream said content onto a limited number of local devices that licence Intel hardware DRM and MS software DRM." MS, of course, is happy to acceed to the media companies demands, if only to protect the PC's future as an entertainment device(since that is perhaps the last area where MS is decisively superior to their competitors). I doubt that they are crying too hard about the fact that it will make life more difficult for OSS, either. Apple, of course, isn't exactly the countercultural good guy here. They tend to be more competent, and vaguely less abusive than people like Sony; but with the move to Intel platforms, and their already demonstrated willingness to impliment DRM when it is in their interests, they seem likely to be at the vangard of making DRM seem chic and relatively painless until it is too late. Most other hardware manufacturers are somewhat less extreme than Apple, in that they have less stake in media directly; but there isn't a one who can afford to buck a trend that MS, Intel, and all major media companies are demanding. They don't much care; but they won't help.

Government isn't a much cheerier story. Our own has shown a fair willingness, especially of late, to assent to pretty much anything that includes the phrase "intellectual property" and makes the corporations happy. The EU seems perilously close to the stance that "Rationalization means taking the most restrictive climate of any member nation and smearing it over the entire area" which doesn't help too much. China has been useful in the past, particularly in providing lovely masses of grey market hardware(DVD players without Macrovision, regions, and the like, and similar kit). I'm not sure that this can hold for the future, though. If American and European import controls tighten, that sort of hardware will go from being cheap at any big box store to being contraband pretty quickly. Worse, the more complex and connected the DRM scheme is, the harder it will be for contraband hardware to survive routine remote checks as part of daily use. Worse, the Chinese willingness to provide stuff that makes violating American laws about IP easy has basically nothing to do with concern for freedom, and basically everything to do with concern for profit. If the legal climate makes such gear unprofitable, they won't make it anymore.

Even less cheerful are the other implications of the sort of technology that will need to be rolled out to prevent piracy. Pretty much, to prevent piracy to any reasonable degree, we'll have to have remote attestation, unique keys on all hardware, cryptographic verification, remotely administered, per file, controls on who can open and execute what, etc, etc. It isn't only the media companies who will love that. There isn't a government on earth that doesn't salivate at the idea of having a really easy time controlling what goes on on people's computers. There are already some attempts in place(great firewall of china, the colour laser printer tracking dots, etc.) The same techniques that will be needed for DRM will be ideally suited to making these attempts by govornment much more effective than they are now.

The public at large, of course, doesn't much know or care. Sure, the current crop of P2P suits isn't playing well with the public; but the future isn't about these goofy little lawsuits, it is about changing the very infrastructure of modern computing so that the activity being cracked down upon becomes formally impossible. That, the public knows little and cares less about.

I hate to be all doom and gloom; but I'm really worried about this too, and I really don't know what to do. The situation just doesn't look at all hopeful, and I'd hate to see the death of the general purpose computer within my lifetime.
 

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This sounds like the "trusted" computing trap. Read the TCPA FAQ for explanation. It's over two years old, so some dates and some specifics may have changed, but the description of the scenario we fear remains.
 

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What the companies are really looking for in this TCPA scenario is a subscription based service to generate more revenue. Instead of having people pay $400 once to pay for something like Microsoft Office, they want people to pay something of $100 a year.

This will thus prevent people from hanging on to their old software, and force upgrade. :(
 

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I can understand trying to prevent the illegal copying of software with the intent of giving it to others who haven't paid for it, but it seems like the way they are going about it is all wrong. It must be on their end, not ours. You should have the right to play their media that you purchased on any player you like, be it open source or not. It should be a consumer's right to do what they like with what they bought as long as they aren't publicly sharing it with others without a license.
 

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Originally posted by: sigs3gv
What the companies are really looking for in this TCPA scenario is a subscription based service to generate more revenue. Instead of having people pay $400 once to pay for something like Microsoft Office, they want people to pay something of $100 a year.

This will thus prevent people from hanging on to their old software, and force upgrade. :(

OK I have a long argument here, but bare with me , there is a an important point out of this :

I am enraged I have never expected this to happen in my lifetime EVER, this is like having the PATRIOT ACT but for the private crop's benefit. ARRRGGGH.

I used to love the fact that I used to be able to buy a piece of software back it up as much as I want , install it a gazillion times locally(and off line) and do all of that without asking for permission, without having the software call home, without having a company sniffing info of me, and if I like the older version of the software, then I would just keep it, I CAN'T BELEIVE THAT I AM WITNESSING THIS IT"S LIKE ALL THE COMPANIES ARE ONE DAY GOIGN TO HAVE A WINDOWS XP OEM ACTIVATION LIKE SERVICE.

What happened ? How blind can others be ? And how much can we tolerate ?

We are being forced into things the same way Microsoft enforced it's ACTIVATION process on us, and for everyone's info I didn't ever hear about Linux nor Open source nor any other type of Windows OS alternative for x86 (that was like 2 years ago) until my father's mobo took a sh!t and he called me to come over to his place and see what I can do, so I go over there and replace his mobo with another I had in my stash , and restored his system, then I get to the Activation screen and tried to activate on line it didn't work called MicroFsck, and they refused to let me activate. I said to the one on the phone I paid for the copy and know I can't use it I should have pirated one you fsck, I call MicroFsck for three days , and I get a refusal after a refusal.

And I say to myself WTF is this am I being treated as a slave here or what ?

So I hang up on him being pissed and all, and contacted a good friend of mine, and explained the situation to him and told him that I am fed up with the windows and I just don't know what to do I don't want to use their software that keeps calling home and that is infested with malware/ spyware...etc and he comes over and gives me a Linux Live CD , he explained to me what Linux is and some info on how it works I played around with it ( and I absolutely loved the Live CD idea) and liked it, then I research things up a bit and then installed Fedora Core on my dad's PC and tell you what he has never been happier, every time I see him doing his work on his PC he has a big smile on his face, and I gave him a dozen of Live CDs just in case something happens he can use a live cd for any urgent work.

So to make things short, when we ( as in Linux / Unix / BSD users) had a problem with M$ we made/ switched / contributed to our own OS an OS were everyone is free and we can come and go as we like, now if it's this easy for the Media monopolies to prevent Linux users from enjoying the use of players that are not controlled by them , I fear that all what you guys have been afraid about is nothing compared to what I am thinking about. I am thinking that if it wasn't too hard for such a company as Sony to flip things upside down, then imagine what software companies can do to us.

I can see it happening first the media, then the software, what's next , you can't overclock your processor or you serve a 15 year jail term ?

If software companies lock up everything on customers and make them pay and not own, and in that way force them to use the new stuff they come up with. then by God , what's going to prevent Intel for example from sending me to Jail in the future for violating a future law about how I am not allowed to overclock an Intel processor and any utilities that do so are illegal, and in that way avoiding having to buy a newer one ? Or what prevents Nvidia from doing the same thing with their cards and the examples go on and on.

Am I pushing things here ? Computing isn't an industry anymore it's becoming more like politics and it's making me feel like throwing up.
It's like Half-Life 2, and the open source community is being considered as Gordon Freeman.
What will happen after that Bill Gates will prevent ppl from legally using WINE ?
 

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Originally posted by: sigs3gv
What the companies are really looking for in this TCPA scenario is a subscription based service to generate more revenue. Instead of having people pay $400 once to pay for something like Microsoft Office, they want people to pay something of $100 a year.

This will thus prevent people from hanging on to their old software, and force upgrade. :(

Right on the money. Piracy might be a motive to adopt such a system, but the ability to force upgrades is more than just a coincidence. In fact, don't be surprised to see all the proprietary software vendors switch to a subscription-only model. If you fail to make your payments, your software is shut off, utility-style.

Originally posted by: The Linuxator
Am I pushing things here ? Computing isn't an industry anymore it's becoming more like politics and it's making me feel like throwing up.

That is the feeling of your understanding of this matter adolescing. It feels weird now, but after a while, you get used to it. :p
 

The Linuxator

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Originally posted by: bersl2
Originally posted by: sigs3gv
What the companies are really looking for in this TCPA scenario is a subscription based service to generate more revenue. Instead of having people pay $400 once to pay for something like Microsoft Office, they want people to pay something of $100 a year.

This will thus prevent people from hanging on to their old software, and force upgrade. :(

Right on the money. Piracy might be a motive to adopt such a system, but the ability to force upgrades is more than just a coincidence. In fact, don't be surprised to see all the proprietary software vendors switch to a subscription-only model. If you fail to make your payments, your software is shut off, utility-style.

Originally posted by: The Linuxator
Am I pushing things here ? Computing isn't an industry anymore it's becoming more like politics and it's making me feel like throwing up.

That is the feeling of your understanding of this matter adolescing. It feels weird now, but after a while, you get used to it. :p


I mean based on what these companies can do with these DRM ,couldn't Bill Gates manage something similar to DRM to WINE and make it illegal becasue maybe in the furute he comes up with a way to legally prevent ppl from running win apps on anything other than windows ?
 

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here is some stuff... The DMCA and DRM stuff isn't so far fetched.

What will end up happenning though is that it won't make Linux distros illegal or anything like that. What will happen instead (my guess) is that you'd simply be forced to rely on closed source software to do certain things and you will only be able to use certain hardware configurations.

Now don't forget there are legitiment reasons for using DRM. If your have some legal corrispondance for isntance and want to ensure that the email attatchement can only be decrypted by a certain party then that's something you can use it for. Or storing passwords that are DRM encrypted.

Another one is security. Using certain technologies that Intel introduced (I beleive) it will be eventually possible to take a checksum of all your operating system files and embed that into hardware non-volitile memory... then the hardware itself will refuse to run software that has been modified. So if your machine gets infected by a rootkit, for instance, the hardware will be able to reject the modified kernel modules and other software.

Or something like that.

The primary purpose, of course, though is to make it so that other people can control what you can and cannot do with your own private property.

There are some current examples of this going on right now. Here are some that I can think of.

Itunes is a big one. It's very popular and it uses DRM to determine what devices and software your allowed to play Itune's aquired media on. It's technically illegal to use Linux to play itune music since Apple never released their software or licensed software to play such things on a open source OS.

Newer Microsoft WMV versions will allow content creators to determine restrictions. They also use a combination of licensing and patent protections to make sure that stuff encoded in wmv doesn't work properly in Linux (unless your running linspire since they have a license to use wmv from the settlement when Linspire changed it's name from Lindows).



Xbox is simply a PC. It's a 733mhz pentium box with some ram and a onboard video card. The controllers themselves are simply USB devices with a propriatory connector for a plug. Quite literally Linux has drivers for them and you can cut the end off and soldier a replacement conventional usb plug and they will work.

Microsoft sells Xboxs for a loss. Each model costs more to make (plus overhead and such) then it costs to buy it. What they make money on is the licensing and sales of video games.

So if it became popular to install a OS on them and just use it as a PC, then Microsoft would loose money on every model sold for this purpose. So MS has implimented various hardware restrictions to prevent this.

Hackers have broken most of them, but as they are broken the bioses and with each revision of the thing different restrictions and work arounds were put in place. So now to install Linux you'd have to break Microsoft's software so that you can't go online with 'xbox live' or you have to install mod chip... which may or maynot be illegal based on your location on the planet.


And there are a few others things like that. Like the CSS encryption for DVDs, which the DMCA makes pretty much illegal to break unless you have the approval of whatever the equivilent of the RIAA is for the movie industry.

There is also the example of the 'MadWifi' cards.

The FCC says it's illegal for the average person to own a radio device (or at least be sold a device) that may be misused to break FCC regulations on signal strength and frequencies.

The Linux drivers for the Atheros-based cards have to suffer the concequences of this. Unlike many other wifi cards they require the FCC-complying restrictions to be placed in the kernel drivers.

This basicly means that it's illegal to use open source drivers to run these cards. The drivers are too easily modified to make them break FCC regulations.

So what is done is that you have a 'binary blob' that has to be combined with some code to make it compatable with the Linux kernel.

All those above are examples on how DRM, DMCA and some patent laws are used against Linux and other open source systems to ensure that they less attractive platforms.

Another example is the infamious 'FCC Flag'.

The FCC flag is a indicator that may or may not be HDTV content that will tell you when it is ok and not ok to record the shows you want. If you not allowed to record the shows by PBS, or CBS, or HBO, or whatever, then your hardware is suppose to disregard your wishes and ignore commands to record it.

So if this FCC flag was to come though, it would basicly make it illegal (since you'd have to hack the hardware and it would violate the DMCA) to use things like Mythtv or Freevo to watch the shows you want on Linux systems. It would make it illegal to release open source drivers for certain types of hardware that could possibly be modified to allow you to do this evil evil thing.

 

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What Drag mentions might well be the scariest bit of all, for OSS. We aren't going to see an explicit "anti-OSS" law in the near future, that'd just be too blatant, and plenty of powerful groups love Linux as a server distro. What we likely will see, though, is the end of availible source code being a useful right. It goes like this: Trusted Computing, which seems all too likely in the near future, contains certain facilities for verifying hardware and software checksums during boot. So it can tell what cards you've got in the system, and checksum your kernel, modules, and drivers. It can also securely report to third parties what these peripherals and software packages are and who they are signed by. In some ways, this is quite good. It'll make it easy to detect hardware bugs and rootkits, and prevent that sort of tampering. Look at where it goes, though, particularly after it becomes possible to update the BIOS over the network easily and automatically:

Most consumer desktops will, by default, be set to boot only the latest patch of the vender supported OS. This will be useful to keep newbs from getting owned by rootkits. It will mean, though, that it'll require extra work to load something else. Classy systems, good desktops, serious workstations, pretty much all servers, etc. will allow the user to self sign kernels and boot whatever they want. Loss leader boxxen, "Free after AOL" machines, network appliances and the like, may well not do so.

Here is where things get really bad, though. You have a box that is nice enough to allow you to self sign and/or add more vendor signatures. You can boot pretty much anything. Attestation, though, will mean that third parties can ask what you are running before talking to you. If they don't like the signature, you are out of luck. In practice, MS's latest OS will be supported, as will Apple's in most cases, and various corporate Linux distros will as well. If you aren't running one of these, you are out of luck(or at least restricted to the subset of the internet and programs that remains for legacy users).

For most people, this won't look like too much of a bad thing; but it will essentially destroy the utility of being able to access your OS's source. In order to be trusted by content holders, especially the media people, specific kernels and drivers will have to be tested and signed. You won't be able to afford that, and you won't get the signature anway, if your kernel allows you to do something like redirect the sound device to a file. Enterprise Linux won't miss a beat, costs will just rise slightly for all software producers; but you can forget about being able to use custom compiled stuff, custom kernel patches, or anything of that sort. Community/small scale distros will die as well, as they would be no more able to be signed by someone that matters than personal compilations will.

It isn't as though Linux will become onworkable all at once; but it will probably become something of a ghetto. There will be the big, corporate type distros that will have the necessary signatures; but will only have them by being locked down in certain ways, and there will be the smalltime hacker holdouts, who will face a shrinking pool of files, applications, and sites willing to transact with them. This situation might remain stable, with the free software people restricted to dealing with all free software, free services, and free media(free in the Libre sense); but it is all too possible that it would decay further. I can deal with not having access to Itunes Music Store on my Linux and BSD boxxen; but what happens when my ISP responds to some "What about the children/terrorists/email scammers?!?!!" crusade and decides to stop ignoring all packets that don't come from "secure" sources? Unless I want to turn the local LUG into some sort of wireless commune where we spend all day sending each other kernel patches over IRC on some sort of ad-hoc network, I've basically got to throw in the towel right then and there. Sure, it'll be my "choice" to do so; but when the internet will no longer talk to you for any reasonable price, what are you going to do?
 

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The best response, although painful, is this: don't buy their music, don't purchase their films. Let them have complete protection on stuff that nobody consumes, and which they earn nothing from.

 

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Originally posted by: Markbnj
The best response, although painful, is this: don't buy their music, don't purchase their films. Let them have complete protection on stuff that nobody consumes, and which they earn nothing from.


Heard this argument before. It doesn't work.

Here is my prophecy, I am trade marking it now as Nostrahooflung's vision of trusted computing :

By the year 2008 Trusted computing is in place from various manufacturers that are allowed to enter markets that at one time they were not allowed in. Verizon's push for fibre in the home set precedents that Microsoft, Sony, AT&T, Verio and others used to install DRM and trusted computing at the highest levels.

Computers being sold under the Vista technology desensetizes the mass consumers. Media such as music, electronic games and voice over ip software have been converted into Trusted Computing platforms. With the X-Box 360 Microsoft uses keen insight and innovation to limit users to their DRM models. Sony uses DRM on their back end and in their games to make way for their DRM model to seep into home electronics such as High Def. Televisions and DVD players.

The masses are blind sided by huge marketing schemes to twist the publics oppinion about Trusted computing. They make it so transpanrent that it literally goes unnoticed. Linux will fail to sieze market share on the corporate desktop until they allow the kernel to adopt a NSA approved revision to SELinux that allows for DRM modules to be installed by third parties. Microsoft, using their unix liscense from SCO, develop POSIX compliant modules for FREEBSD and SELinux to enforce their DRM modules to OpenSource users.

OpenSource users simply give DRM business model based companies the finger. Secretly, Sun and IBM have been working with Microsft and the NSA for the past 3 years on the new DRM module plug in for SELinux. As communications needs grow and the broadband market is driven by fibre in the homes. Verizon and all the early adopters install minimum requirements by FCC law in terms of routers and servers. CiSCO, under fire from the larger corporations develops DRM filters into the broadband routers, possibly under BGP revisions. Systematic upgrades to routers across the world are needed because of a massive internet terrorism attack.

Linux users are in outrage over the new systems being in place all over the world. The FCC is given more restrictive powers and has passed DRM as a industry standard for compliance. Microsoft, Sun and IBM push out key locks to be able to access broadband. IPV6 and DRM become integrated and now you must have a federal DRM system key to even get online. People who refuse to be in a policed internet cannot connect to even check email. Hardware all over the world with basic DRM software starts to report illegal activity such as listening to backup copy, made on an old linux box using kernel 2.8.3 pre DRM, KISS's Greatest Hits album circa 2010 on the X-Box 360. Federal funding for prisons increase as the Patriot Act is finally enforced upon the public. 250,000 dollar fines and prison time are press without haste by the supreme court. Ironically, Prison television has been updated to High Definition and Sony Online Ads for Star Wars Galaxies 3 : Another Empire Divided causes mass histaria and prison riots leading to President schwarzenegger envoking martial law on Ohio, Vermont (who yet again receded from the union), and North Dakota. The 53 state of Cuba and the unofficial 54th state of North Korea send in operatives to subdue prisoners.
 

The Linuxator

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Originally posted by: hooflung
Originally posted by: Markbnj
The best response, although painful, is this: don't buy their music, don't purchase their films. Let them have complete protection on stuff that nobody consumes, and which they earn nothing from.


Heard this argument before. It doesn't work.

Here is my prophecy, I am trade marking it now as Nostrahooflung's vision of trusted computing :

By the year 2008 Trusted computing is in place from various manufacturers that are allowed to enter markets that at one time they were not allowed in. Verizon's push for fibre in the home set precedents that Microsoft, Sony, AT&T, Verio and others used to install DRM and trusted computing at the highest levels.

Computers being sold under the Vista technology desensetizes the mass consumers. Media such as music, electronic games and voice over ip software have been converted into Trusted Computing platforms. With the X-Box 360 Microsoft uses keen insight and innovation to limit users to their DRM models. Sony uses DRM on their back end and in their games to make way for their DRM model to seep into home electronics such as High Def. Televisions and DVD players.

The masses are blind sided by huge marketing schemes to twist the publics oppinion about Trusted computing. They make it so transpanrent that it literally goes unnoticed. Linux will fail to sieze market share on the corporate desktop until they allow the kernel to adopt a NSA approved revision to SELinux that allows for DRM modules to be installed by third parties. Microsoft, using their unix liscense from SCO, develop POSIX compliant modules for FREEBSD and SELinux to enforce their DRM modules to OpenSource users.

OpenSource users simply give DRM business model based companies the finger. Secretly, Sun and IBM have been working with Microsft and the NSA for the past 3 years on the new DRM module plug in for SELinux. As communications needs grow and the broadband market is driven by fibre in the homes. Verizon and all the early adopters install minimum requirements by FCC law in terms of routers and servers. CiSCO, under fire from the larger corporations develops DRM filters into the broadband routers, possibly under BGP revisions. Systematic upgrades to routers across the world are needed because of a massive internet terrorism attack.

Linux users are in outrage over the new systems being in place all over the world. The FCC is given more restrictive powers and has passed DRM as a industry standard for compliance. Microsoft, Sun and IBM push out key locks to be able to access broadband. IPV6 and DRM become integrated and now you must have a federal DRM system key to even get online. People who refuse to be in a policed internet cannot connect to even check email. Hardware all over the world with basic DRM software starts to report illegal activity such as listening to backup copy, made on an old linux box using kernel 2.8.3 pre DRM, KISS's Greatest Hits album circa 2010 on the X-Box 360. Federal funding for prisons increase as the Patriot Act is finally enforced upon the public. 250,000 dollar fines and prison time are press without haste by the supreme court. Ironically, Prison television has been updated to High Definition and Sony Online Ads for Star Wars Galaxies 3 : Another Empire Divided causes mass histaria and prison riots leading to President schwarzenegger envoking martial law on Ohio, Vermont (who yet again receded from the union), and North Dakota. The 53 state of Cuba and the unofficial 54th state of North Korea send in operatives to subdue prisoners.


HOLY SH!T WHAT ARE YOU SMOKING ???
 

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Originally posted by: drag
The FCC says it's illegal for the average person to own a radio device (or at least be sold a device) that may be misused to break FCC regulations on signal strength and frequencies.

Actually, you may own/purchase such a device. It is, however, illegal to actually use the device unless properly licensed.


Example: Yaesu handhelds
Anyone may purchase these radios and listen to any frequency, but only licensed operators may transmit.

-- amatuer radio technician licensee.