How Will the Austin IRS Plane Crash Affect You?

[CaptnKirk]

Variation on a Theme . . .

The IRS Office that was the target of the suicide attack by the individual that was driven 'over the edge' by Joe 'Smokin' Stack
will have consequences and impacts far beyond the apparent coateral damage to the building.

The office was the IRS Service Center for auditing, reconciling, and processing tax data and refunds for Texas,
Louisiana, Kentucky, Tennesse, Mississippi, & Alabama.

Those forms and refunds that had not finished processing may have been damaged or destroyed by the fire, or ensuing water damage.

It will be day and months before they even know the volume of data lost or damaged,
and several million people will be
subjected to loss of their original filing information, and they will have to file again.

That is the center I sent all my 2009 IRS Tax Forms to several weeks ago, and I doubt that it was completed in their processing cycle.


Cute, huh?
So . . I'll be waiting, and waiting, wondering.

 

[spidey07]

Not to be too sarcastic but tell the IRS you fufilled your end of the deal, it's their problem now.

 

[GTaudiophile]

With the IRS, it is never their problem. The burden of proof is always on you.

 

[Vic]

Document processing everywhere is almost entirely electronic now. If you mailed your tax returns in, they were logged and imaged during initial processing. Those servers were mostly likely not damaged, and even if they were, there are off-site backups.

 

[HumblePie]

Wow, one time is pays to procrastinate!

 

[lothar]

With the IRS, it is never their problem. The burden of proof is always on you.

This.
I'd love to see how people like Spidey07 living in those states intend to bypass that.

Also, assuming you are supposed to be getting a refund(most people do, rather than owing money or breaking even), you'd have to prove to the IRS that they owe you. If you want to be strongheaded like Spidey07, the government will pocket your change that they owe you unless you prove it by *surpise, surprise*showing your IRS filing again.

 

[nobodyknows]

Not to be too sarcastic but tell the IRS you fufilled your end of the deal, it's their problem now.

Or you could just send in another copy. I know that seems too simple, but try it, it might just work.

Last year I filed mine electronically via Turbotax.

 

[MotF Bane]

Not to be too sarcastic but tell the IRS you fufilled your end of the deal, it's their problem now.

Government always wins.

 

[CaptnKirk]

This.
I'd love to see how people like Spidey07 living in those states intend to bypass that.

Also, assuming you are supposed to be getting a refund(most people do, rather than owing money or breaking even), you'd have to prove to the IRS that they owe you. If you want to be strongheaded like Spidey07, the government will pocket your change that they owe you unless you prove it by *surpise, surprise*showing your IRS filing again.

Ah, there's the rub - the burden of proof to the individual.

Wasn't that part of the problem with Smokin' Joe in the first place?
He stated that he had already spent something like $40,000 in legal fees trying to resolve past problems.

Trouble with the IRS - their communication is so poor and sporatic, that they keep shifting the investigation process,
and you get caught in a never ending web of auditing and reviews, it goes on for months and never properly closes without appeals.

 

[HendrixFan]

The main IRS building in Austin is at a different location (3651 S IH35), and to be honest I didn't even know about this second building until yesterday.

 

[Slick5150]

Ah, there's the rub - the burden of proof to the individual.

Wasn't that part of the problem with Smokin' Joe in the first place?
He stated that he had already spent something like $40,000 in legal fees trying to resolve past problems.

Trouble with the IRS - their communication is so poor and sporatic, that they keep shifting the investigation process,
and you get caught in a never ending web of auditing and reviews, it goes on for months and never properly closes without appeals.

Um, no. He tried to scam them, got nailed for it, so he smashed a plane into their building. I don't exactly have any sympathy for the idiot. I do for the workers in the building who are just trying to do their jobs despite knowing everyone hates them.

 

[FerrelGeek]

Return e-filed. Already got my money back.

 

[piasabird]

Well the IRS will now have to spend even more money to relocate. This just causes more government debt.

Why is it that all rich people are cheating on their taxes?

Maybe if it was illegal to deduct taxes out of people's paychecks, it would be a lot harder to keep raising taxes.

Maybe we should outlaw privately owned planes.

 

[spidey07]

Well the IRS will now have to spend even more money to relocate. This just causes more government debt.

Why is it that all rich people are cheating on their taxes?

The rich pay 80% of all taxes. They're not cheating, they're getting screwed.

 

[werepossum]

The rich pay 80% of all taxes. They're not cheating, they're getting screwed.

This.

I'm in Tennessee, but I arrange my withholding so that I owe a small amount each year. Since I have no reason to send that check any sooner than necessary, I haven't, so it will not affect me at all.

No sympathy for Stack though.

 

[Slick5150]

The rich pay 80% of all taxes. They're not cheating, they're getting screwed.

Well of course the rich pay most of the taxes, they have more income to tax. That doesn't mean they're getting screwed. Warren Buffet paid a lot more in taxes than I did obviously, but his tax % was lower than mine. That's far for "getting screwed"

 

[jhbball]

Well of course the rich pay most of the taxes, they have more income to tax. That doesn't mean they're getting screwed. Warren Buffet paid a lot more in taxes than I did obviously, but his tax % was lower than mine. That's far for "getting screwed"

Take your logic and reason out of here. There's no place for it in P&N.

 

[Craig234]

With the IRS, it is never their problem. The burden of proof is always on you.

You sound like the typical six year old who follows the tea party. If this interfered with tax returns, I've little doubt the government would make allowances. But it's unlikely it affected man if anyh.

 

[Ronstang]

The main IRS building in Austin is at a different location (3651 S IH35), and to be honest I didn't even know about this second building until yesterday.

I'm not sure where the OP got his information but you are correct and the main IRS building in Austin is in a different location. The information on the local news also reported that his building is NOT where any of the aforementioned material is stored and is simply an IRS office of agents who investigate people who do not pay their taxes, which would make sense since the clown in the plane was investigated by this office and reportedly owed ~$40K in taxes and penalties.

 

[nobodyknows]

The rich pay 80% of all taxes. They're not cheating, they're getting screwed.

Yeah, I see those poor rich bastards crying in their champagne all the time. It really breaks me up how bad they have it.

 

[werepossum]

Well of course the rich pay most of the taxes, they have more income to tax. That doesn't mean they're getting screwed. Warren Buffet paid a lot more in taxes than I did obviously, but his tax % was lower than mine. That's far for "getting screwed"

The rich pay a greater percentage of wage income, it's just that most of their income comes from capital gains. I have no problem with capital gains being taxed at a lower rate where that money is actually at risk, although I'll admit that people like Edwards (taking what should be income into a one-man corporation, then paying it back to himself as capital gains) really frosts my ass. Ditto with those execs who exercise stock options without even fronting the cash for the stock. Money that has not been previously taxed and money that is not risked should not qualify for capital gains rates IMO.

My preference would be the FairTax, where everyone pays the same rate on what they spend and nothing on what they save, and everyone is prebated with the tax they will spend that month at the poverty level. That way those at or below the poverty rate pay no federal taxes whatsoever (including payroll taxes, which strike the working poor very hard), unreported income gets taxed too, recycling used goods (exempt from taxes) is encouraged, savings and investment of capital are encouraged, and American manufacturers pay no taxes, helping make them competitive with those from other nations.

 

[Fern]

How Will the Austin IRS Plane Crash Affect You?

Next time they send me a bill, I'll be able to write back and say "Don't bother me, I have a plane"

Fern

 

[cliftonite]

Next time they send me a bill, I'll be able to write back and say "Don't bother me, I have a plane"

Fern

hahahaha

 

[Throckmorton]

Are you people serious?

 

[Fern]

Are you people serious?

Austin is a big tax filing center. For some parts of the USA that's where tax returns are sent. So, it's a natural question. Where I live we file in Austin, upon hearing the news some people where I live wondered aloud about the effect since tax time is upon us and it's on their minds.

Of course, as it turns out this is not the 'big' IRS return center

Fern