How will/should the Democrats attack Palin?

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quest55720

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Originally posted by: Jhhnn
Eskimospy has it pretty well nailed down. Looks to me that being POTUS is the toughest job in the world, and has clearly made much younger men than McCain old before their time... His age and health history are legit concerns, particularly since their "Plan B" isn't much of a plan, at all...

I would rather have a lesser plan B than a crappy plan A. Obama has more experience running for president than he does in the senate. I will take 2 years of governor over 143 days in the senate.
 

herkulease

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Originally posted by: jpeyton

Her husband is an oil production operator for BP; big gas and big oil in da hizzy fo shizzy.

Alaska's economy is pretty much based around oil/gas. Where do you expect him to work? If he was some top level executive this would be great. They can talk about how if elected the vp will be in bed with oil every night.

Pressed for Washington earmarks when she was a mayor. Governs over a state that receives more per capita federal spending than any other state in the union.

Define "pressed". Do you mean like asking for money? What politician doesn't ask for hand outs from the federal government. Last I check, a governor has no control over how much federal money is sent their way. They can ask and ask and the federal government can just ignore them. Ted Stevens just does a really good job and getting Alaskans a big return on their money.

I haven't looked at the others. The best thing is just ignore her. She was a nobody before and should be kept that way. Instead press and liberal blogs are jumping on her giving her attention and pushing the what would be the constant looping of Obama's nomination and visions into the background. The news networks are just cycling between Hurricane Gustav and who's Palin segment.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: quest55720
Originally posted by: Jhhnn
Eskimospy has it pretty well nailed down. Looks to me that being POTUS is the toughest job in the world, and has clearly made much younger men than McCain old before their time... His age and health history are legit concerns, particularly since their "Plan B" isn't much of a plan, at all...

I would rather have a lesser plan B than a crappy plan A. Obama has more experience running for president than he does in the senate. I will take 2 years of governor over 143 days in the senate.
No you'd take Cathy Lee because she's a Republican over anybody that isn't.
 

quest55720

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: quest55720
Originally posted by: Jhhnn
Eskimospy has it pretty well nailed down. Looks to me that being POTUS is the toughest job in the world, and has clearly made much younger men than McCain old before their time... His age and health history are legit concerns, particularly since their "Plan B" isn't much of a plan, at all...

I would rather have a lesser plan B than a crappy plan A. Obama has more experience running for president than he does in the senate. I will take 2 years of governor over 143 days in the senate.
No you'd take Cathy Lee because she's a Republican over anybody that isn't.

Actually not but she gives McCain a chance to win. Obama has sided with Pelosi and the tree huggers. I just can't afford the Obama energy policy. I do not like the evangelicos at all. I would love to vote the social issues but I can not. I have to vote with my wallet and that forces me to go with McCain the only pro drilling ticket. Hell I am an atheist I don't want god any where in government. The choice is putting up with the bible thumpers or going bankrupt from high fuel prices. I really don't want to have to sleep in my car or at work a few nights a week after work because of 10 dollar a gallon fuel. I am a single issue voter I want gas prices down. I think McCain's complete energy policy is much better than Obama's plan. The way the democrats just went on vacation during this crissis left a sour taste in my mouth. On party was hijacked by the bible thumpers the other hijacked by the tree huggers. Either way neither party is for me so I am voting my single issue.
 

CADsortaGUY

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This is hilarious, the dems are trying to make "experience", "corruption"(troopergate). Neither hold any weight as they are hypocrits on the first and lame on the second since there was plenty of reason to fire the guy and the person she let go was an appointee. So all in all - nothing but desperation from the left.

Oh wait... I forgot this gem :laugh:

She really wasn't pregnant - it's her daughter's kid.
:roll:





I didn't think the dems could get any lamer than when they were running jfkerry but they sure are trying to out-do themselves. :laugh:
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
This is hilarious, the dems are trying to make "experience", "corruption"(troopergate).
Is it the Dems or just Americans so desperate to end the disastrous regime of the Republicans that they'd lower themselves to the Republicans level?

 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: quest55720

Obama has sided with Pelosi and the tree huggers. I just can't afford the Obama energy policy.

We can't afford NOT to pay attention to environmental issues (hugging trees). Whatever money you think we'd save by not aggressively pursuing an environmental agenda won't do you much good if it results in killing off humanity.

We are out of time to pay any attention to the morons who still deny global warming and other environmental issues are immediate threats to humanity.

I do not like the evangelicos at all.

There's hope for you, yet.

I would love to vote the social issues but I can not. I have to vote with my wallet and that forces me to go with McCain the only pro drilling ticket.

We've arrived at a point in history where supporting social issues coincides with your wallet issues. The hardest parts to grasp are the logistical and time dependent issues. Changing our current consumption habits will take time and cost money. What the entrenched interests don't tell you is, NOT changing our habits will cost more.

Understanding that just requires stepping back and tossing out the propoganda you've been fed for far too long from the money interests who stand to lose if they don't get with the program.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
This is hilarious, the dems are trying to make "experience", "corruption"(troopergate).
Is it the Dems or just Americans so desperate to end the disastrous regime of the Republicans that they'd lower themselves to the Republicans level?

It's the dems/left. They are so desperate they will stoop levels unseen in politics. This "baby-gate" is pretty damn low and desperate - no?
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
This is hilarious, the dems are trying to make "experience", "corruption"(troopergate).
Is it the Dems or just Americans so desperate to end the disastrous regime of the Republicans that they'd lower themselves to the Republicans level?

It's the dems/left. They are so desperate they will stoop levels unseen in politics. This "baby-gate" is pretty damn low and desperate - no?
I don't know, the Elian Gonzales BS played by the Right was about as low as one could get. Imagine that, Politicians keeping a boy away from his father just to try and embarrass a President who had been riding them like a little bitch.

 

dbk

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Don't attack her. Just have a VP debate on foreign policy/national security and we'll see what happens.
 

ProfJohn

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
This is hilarious, the dems are trying to make "experience", "corruption"(troopergate).
Is it the Dems or just Americans so desperate to end the disastrous regime of the Republicans that they'd lower themselves to the Republicans level?
It's the dems/left. They are so desperate they will stoop levels unseen in politics. This "baby-gate" is pretty damn low and desperate - no?
I don't know, the Elian Gonzales BS played by the Right was about as low as one could get. Imagine that, Politicians keeping a boy away from his father just to try and embarrass a President who had been riding them like a little bitch.
Say what Red??

After the Republicans took over they got everything they wanted passed. (Except term limits)
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: dbk
Don't attack her. Just have a VP debate on foreign policy/national security and we'll see what happens.
You know I bet she does better than you'd think. Hell I bet she could out debate George Bush.
 

fskimospy

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Hahahahhaa. Now I'm reading everywhere that Palin supported Buchanan for president in 2000. That's right, Hitler apologist Pat Buchanan.

Now I think when it all comes out her support for him will be considerably less than what is being put out right now, but jesus is that a bad headline. This is what McCain gets for picking someone he's only met once in his life.
 

Jhhnn

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I'm not really prepared to attack her, per se, but rather to attack McCain's judgement in her selection and hers in accepting. I'm sure she's a capable person in her own milieu as mayor of Podunk Suburb, Alaska, and even as Governor of Greater Podunk, Alaska. A short stint of that doesn't even begin to prepare her to step up to the job of POTUS, and anybody who thinks so is delusional. McCain needs a strong plan B if he's really putting "Country first", if he's realistic about his own mortality. He is, again, exhibiting very poor judgement, potentially placing the future of our country in the hands of a well intentioned political naif, a true babe in the woods...
 

ProfJohn

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Originally posted by: eskimospy
Hahahahhaa. Now I'm reading everywhere that Palin supported Buchanan for president in 2000. That's right, Hitler apologist Pat Buchanan.

Now I think when it all comes out her support for him will be considerably less than what is being put out right now, but jesus is that a bad headline. This is what McCain gets for picking someone he's only met once in his life.
You think that will over come the Wright and Ayers issues???

We shouldn't judge Obama by the company he has kept, but throw Palin to the wolfs because she supported Buchanan??? Seems fair to me :roll:
 

CallMeJoe

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I'll say again that the Democrats should avoid attacking Governor Palin, and accept her as a gift from Senator McCain. The Republicans were getting some traction on the experience question, then Senator McCain picks someone just as questionable (if not more so) to sit the proverbial "heartbeat away" from the presidency.
 

ProfJohn

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I agree with Joe.

Just leave her alone. Any attack on her can boomerang on Obama.

Instead they should focus on under cutting her message to women and keep her from gaining female votes.
 

Zedtom

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Originally posted by: CallMeJoe
I'll say again that the Democrats should avoid attacking Governor Palin, and accept her as a gift from Senator McCain. The Republicans were getting some traction on the experience question, then Senator McCain picks someone just as questionable (if not more so) to sit the proverbial "heartbeat away" from the presidency.

The strategists in the McCain camp have had to get creative to avoid being accused of "going after the black dude." Now the Obama team should let Palin create her own bad publicity, to avoid being blamed for "going after the white chick."
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Hahahahhaa. Now I'm reading everywhere that Palin supported Buchanan for president in 2000. That's right, Hitler apologist Pat Buchanan.

Now I think when it all comes out her support for him will be considerably less than what is being put out right now, but jesus is that a bad headline. This is what McCain gets for picking someone he's only met once in his life.
You think that will over come the Wright and Ayers issues???

We shouldn't judge Obama by the company he has kept, but throw Palin to the wolfs because she supported Buchanan??? Seems fair to me :roll:

Of course not. Didn't you read my post? It's a bad headline. I don't think you should judge anyone by the company they keep. (of course what's strange is that you apparently do, and are ignoring this) What I am saying is the same thing people have been saying for awhile, that retards out there ARE going to judge her for the company she keeps, and the presidential candidates she wears buttons for. Sure it's not fair, but... well... that's how it goes.
 

Siddhartha

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Originally posted by: bamacre
They don't have to. Just need to attack McCain.

As someone wrote earlier in this thread, there is no real need to attack Ms Palin. It will only make the Democrats look mean and ugly.

The Democrats have eight years of the Bush administration, which has a 30% approval rating, and Mr McCain's support of Mr Bush to work with.

 

shira

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I think the Dems should publish bikini photos of Palin, showing her cellulite.
 

Craig234

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
I agree with Joe.

Just leave her alone. Any attack on her can boomerang on Obama.

Instead they should focus on under cutting her message to women and keep her from gaining female votes.

Why do you post so many threads advising democrats how to win elections? It's like Wal-Mart posting tips for Unions how to gain more power.
 
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Originally posted by: CallMeJoe
I'll say again that the Democrats should avoid attacking Governor Palin, and accept her as a gift from Senator McCain. The Republicans were getting some traction on the experience question, then Senator McCain picks someone just as questionable (if not more so) to sit the proverbial "heartbeat away" from the presidency.

For those who want to question her experience...

She has more executive experience than ALL of the other players (including her running mate) combined.

She has held elective office longer than Obama.

I would consider her lack of national experience a plus. We complain about the same old politics... why are we voting for more with Obama/Biden?

Take a look at her when she hits the interview scene... She's smart. She's tough. She's going to rock this thing. I can't wait to see her get her first interview with a major news service.

Then you'll see who she really is.
 

Craig234

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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

For those who want to question her experience...

She has more executive experience than ALL of the other players (including her running mate) combined.

The comments about 'executive experience' are such nonsense.

JFK had no 'executive experience' yet he largely ran the federal government masterfully.

Reagan had 8 years as CA governmet yet had out of control senior people who were convicted of crimes. Iran Contra? He sid he didn't know, his people did it on their own.

Nixon had supposedly some 'executive experience' by being in the White House as VP for 8 years, yet his administration as a backstabbing mess that also filled our jails. Certinaly he had executive experience by his second term which is when a lot of the biggest messes were going on.

The issue with the president has little to do with 'executive experience'. There are Chiefs of Staff for handling matters. It's *who they serve* and other judgement that matters.

I would consider her lack of national experience a plus. We complain about the same old politics... why are we voting for more with Obama/Biden?

This 'outsider' thing is also nonsense. It's not whether they have Washington experience, it's whether they will follow the practices the public doesn't like of representing the narrow powerful interests over the public interest. You can have someone who does that from 'outside Washington' - George Bush fits that well - and you can have Washington people who are not going to do that. Again the right has these idiotic no-win rules for Democrats - no Washington experience is bad, Washington experience is bad.
 

Acanthus

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#3 Shes Inexperienced, making the whole "Obama is inexperienced" argument completely irrelevant.

#2 She has very close ties to big oil

#1 Shes a republican